Building a 3500$ gaming PC.

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Hello everyone. I am new to his forum and currently building my first custom gaming PC(have 0 experience in buidling them). Just as i mentioned I'll use it for games.



Approximate Purchase Date: August 2014

Budget Range: 3500$(+200 if something amazing comes up) without any taxes

System Usage from Most to Least Important: 1.High resolution gaming and Programming
2. Surfing internet

Are you buying a monitor: 3 of them

Do you need to buy OS: Yes

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: amazon but can be anywhere if taxes won't be too high

Location: Switzerland

Parts Preferences: I'd prefer evga gtx 780 ti and an intel i7 processor.

Over clocking: Yes

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Your Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080 at least (on each of 3)

Additional Comments: Watercooling and quiet PC.


UPDATE 1: When I wrote amazon i didn't mean amazon.ch or .de. Any amazon will go.
UPDATE 2:LIQUID COOLING IS CONSIDERED OBLIGATORY.
 
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I don't know, but I'm guessing amazon.de should be the best option as the website redirects everyone trying to access amazon.ch to amazon.de . You will have to check where buying the parts would be better. And that would be around 2700 Euros, right?
 
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From my cursory exploration:

Core i7 4790K $340
Asus Sabertooth Z97 M2 $165
Gskill Ripjaws X 2x4GB 1866 $80
Samsung 850 Pro 256 $200
WD 4TB BLACK $240
Asus BW-161HT BlueRay $90
XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB $520
Antec P183 $165
FSP 850W 80+Gold PSU $170
3x Asus VS247H-P (2ms) $450 (around $150 Each)
OS - Windows 8 $200

Total - $2620

That gives you a solid build - room to improve and such. (Note - No Water cooling on this as I don't have the knowledge or experience.)
 
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Something a lot of first-time builders tend to neglect is the quality and strength of their power supply - it's the one component you absolutely never want to go cheap on. Make sure you do some research if you don't already know what to look for. I personally like Antec and Corsair brands for PSUs, and for a high-end SLI/oc build, I'd probably go for a Corsair AX1200i, depending on how many GPUs you plan to have. You may actually be able to get away with something lower wattage, but if you only plan for a 2-way SLI of GTX 780 Ti's (which should be enough, a single 780 Ti is a beast of a card in itself), a 1200W PSU should be plenty. You might be cutting it a little close with a 3-way SLI of GTX 780 Ti's though, as you're looking at around 800W of power consumption on the 12V rail(s) from the combination of the video cards, and then still have to factor in an overclocked processor and some other components, minus roughly another 20% overhead on the power supply's 12V rail(s) (as no PSU is 100% efficient). Also keep in mind there are usually some inherent combined limitations on the 12V rail(s) in conjunction with the 5V and 3.3V rails, so just because a PSU says it can handle 100A on its 12V rail doesn't mean it can actually perform at 1200W, as the 5V rail may draw 30A from it, resulting in 150W less functionality - the 12V and 5V may have a combined wattage limit of 1200W (and again that's assuming 100% efficiency, which doesn't happen). There's usually a sticker somewhere on the PSU indicating all of this. Again, it's something you'll want to research a little bit.
 
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I advise waiting for the Haswell-E release in September for something like this, especially if you're going with SLi or Crossfire right off the bat.

The regular Haswell, socket 1150, platform doesn't have the necessary PCIe lanes unless you get a board with a PLX bridge, and even that is iffy. Also, overclocking Haswell sucks. Sure, you might get a peak overclock of 4.7 or 4.8 GHz from a 4790k, but it will thermally throttle down to 4.0 no matter what cooler you go with. (Most people claiming a 4.6 or 4.7 overclock probably don't even know their chip is thermally throttling on them.) The packing of the chip itself is deficient. Overall, I would not advise the regular Haswell platform for anything above mainstream.

I didn't wait and got a Z97-WS, and I regret it. At first, I got a 4770k, a month before the 4790k came out, but it would hardly keep up at stock clocks. It wouldn't turbo beyond 3.7GHz even with only one core active. I could "overclock" to 4.4GHz pretty easily at stock voltage, but it would overheat and throttle down if it was pushed. I tried delidding it to get a better cooling interface, but I ruined the chip. The videos make it look so easy, but it definitely is not. I now have a 4790k that I keep at stock clocks. It will run at up to 4.4 on one active core, but try to push it a little bit and it throttles down to 4.0. It will "overclock" and run at stock voltage as high as 4.7, but it still throttles down to 4.0 when pushed. It's a sucky platform.

Go with a Haswell-E (Core i7 5930k) in September, or if you can't wait go with a IB-E Core i7 4930k. They may not give the peak numbers of the Haswell overclocks, but running longer than 30 seconds, you'll get more speed from either of these.
 
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Go here http://www.ldlc.ch/

Find these specific items.

Samsung SSD 840 EVO 120 Go
ASUS Maximus VI Hero C2 + Intel Core i7-4790K (4.0 GHz)
Kingston HyperX 8 Go (2x 4Go) DDR3 1866 MHz
Hitachi Travelstar 7K1000 1 To
Advance EVO Black 6123BO
Corsair RM550 80PLUS Gold
ASUS GTX780-DC2OC-3GD5 - GeForce GTX 780 3 Go
Corsair Hydro Series H60 (2013 Edition)
Microsoft Windows 8.1 64 bits - OEM (DVD)
Samsung SH-118BB/BEBE

The approximate price in USD is $1717.35
The price in Swiss Franc is 1560.91
 
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What I wanted to say by "any amazon will go" is that in amazon.de there might not be some parts that exist in amazon.com.
 
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Indeed, but a lot of components don't ship from amazon.com, and if you only take a few items, the shipping costs will be too high for what you would be getting.
 
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I agree with you at that point but in this case amazon.fr may also work because their shipping taxes will cost less.
 
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I am very grateful for the list and here's what I think:
Did you count with 2 way sli?(because i rougly get 2400 with one GPU)
What would be the difference if motherboard will be asus maximus vi extreme?
I am planning to do liquid cooling for both GPU and CPU therefore I would like to ask for your help here too if you are familiar with that theme.

For now that's all and I will make another update.
 
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My bad, I forgot the RAM... And that's odd... I'm sure it was at that price, I might have only added 2 monitors?
Well anyway, let's rectify all of that, for liquid cooling you would have to go with 1 GPU for it to fit within your budget. (This is only a rough estimate, for now) Let me just fill up my basket again, and I'll see what adjustments have to be made. And, how much ram do you need?
 
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I will need 16GB here. It's only my opinion so if you think it's overkill we can go with 8GB.
 
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Furthermore will it be possible to add second GPU later?
 
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Of course. Have a look at this: PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£239.89 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£155.00 @ Aria PC)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£60.92 @ Ebuyer)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£171.41 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (£475.98 @ Ebuyer)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (£121.36 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.98 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£80.71 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor (£145.76 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor (£145.76 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor (£145.76 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1920.51
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-01 01:41 BST+0100
Parts will be slightly cheaper in other european countries, so you would have a bigger margin for buying the liquid cooling components. The 850W psu is overkill for this build, but it's for the future SLI you plan on doing. And 8Gb is more than enough for gaming, you could use 16GB but I doubt it.
 
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In my old(relatively) PC 8GB sometimes wasn't enough. I was planning for 16 GB but in this case will it better to get 2X 8GB or 1X 16 GB?
 
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2 x 8 gb as there are no 16gb ram sticks.
 
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I know there are no 16 gb ram sticks. I mean two 2x(2x4) or 1X(2X8/4X4). Sorry for misunderstanding.
 
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http://www.ldlc.ch/informatique/pieces-informatique/watercooling/c4715/+fv474-8403,1140,1139,7228,4502,10867,1147,1144,4378,7148,1143,4379,1142,10765,7243,4377,4376.html
http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00169474.html
http://www.ldlc.ch/fiche/PB00138402.html
Stuff is expensive for watercooling... :L And prices are about the same in france..
And you will have to get a reference design gtx 780 TI if you plan on using the water block. As for what exactly to get for watercooling your whole system, I only know what I've read, I've never built a computer with one before. So, I strongly suggest you post in the overclocking section, with a link to the ldlc shop, asking what you should get for your setup when you've settled on something.
 
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You should get one set of 16gb of ram, 2x8gb sticks. As getting two sets, even if they're the same, could still cause problems.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor (£239.89 @ Ebuyer)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (£155.00 @ Aria PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (£117.27 @ Amazon UK)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 500GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (£171.41 @ CCL Computers)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (£71.99 @ Aria PC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Video Card (£498.47 @ More Computers)
Case: Corsair 750D ATX Full Tower Case (£121.36 @ CCL Computers)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply (£94.99 @ Amazon UK)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer (£10.98 @ CCL Computers)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) (£80.71 @ Amazon UK)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor (£145.76 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor (£145.76 @ CCL Computers)
Monitor: Asus VX238H 23.0" Monitor (£145.76 @ CCL Computers)
Total: £1999.35
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-01 02:08 BST+0100
 
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