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Hey everyone!

I was planning on doing a new build for Intel. I'm currently AMD and want to go Intel/nVidia for my bi-annual upgrade haha.

Any-who, I seem to have hit a wall on what to buy since I haven't been Intel since the Pent 4 was their top processor...

I have been searching around forums and have narrowed the CPU down to the Intel Core i7 4930k Ivy Bridge-E but have gotten stuck on which motherboard is the best to pair with:

-16-32GB of DDR3 1866 (With the option to go to 64 if needed)
-Also, what ram is compatible/recommended with that specific motherboard.
-Either a EVGA 780Ti Dual Classified or possibly a new GTX 800 series, IF it is released this year.
-My Agility 3 SSD
-Antec HCP-850 Platinum 850W
-WD 1tb 7200rpm

Overall, I want a really good LGA2011 Gaming Motherboard that works with the above listed items.

I don't want the new Broadwell CPUs that are coming out Q4 of this year because of their starting price. I don't care about DDR4 either since it will be expensive as hell. I want a build that is beast, stable, and will secure my wallet for about 2 years when I upgrade to the Broadwell / DDR4 age.

I'm currently using a 990FX Asus Formula-Z board and have used an 890FX as well prior, both boards were lovely and powerful, but I do not know if ASUS is the leader in Intel boards or not. I used EVGA boards in the past (Pentium 4 Socket 775), and they were amazing, their support was beautiful when it was time to RMA as well. Asus...not so much.

My budget is around 2,000-2,300 for the CPU, Mobo, RAM, and GPU.

Help me out here people!

**EDIT** I am open to a 1150 build if it is able to support next gen games (Dragon Age Inquisition, Unreal 4 Engine Games) and supply a full rail to PCI-E 3.0 x16.
 
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ASUS Sabertooth X79 LGA 2011 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
303 dollars

handles sli well. G.SKILL Ram works in almost all mobos
 
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Sorry, I should have posted the edit in another line. But I added the following:

"I'm currently using a 990FX Asus Formula-Z board and have used an 890FX as well prior, both boards were lovely and powerful, but I do not know if ASUS is the leader in Intel boards or not. I used EVGA boards in the past (Pentium 4 Socket 775), and they were amazing, their support was beautiful when it was time to RMA as well. Asus...not so much.

My budget is around 2,000-2,300 for the CPU, Mobo, RAM, and GPU.

Help me out here people!

**EDIT** I am open to a 1150 build if it is able to support next gen games (Dragon Age Inquisition, Unreal 4 Engine Games) and supply a full rail to PCI-E 3.0 x16."
 
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Intel Core i7 4790K - 340
MSI Z97-M - 160
CORSAIR Vengeance Pro 16GB - 180
2x GTX 780 Ti in SLI - 1400

About 2100 dollars. You will max games 2-3 years down the road and be able to play med/high 5 years down the road
 
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How long are you willing to wait? X99 boards and Haswell E chips should be released fairly soon. Also Broadwell for LGA1150 is going to come out.

ASUS is practically an industry leader in manufacturing PCBs, I think they trade places with Gigabyte or MSI for the top producer. (Would have to doublecheck the details, pretty sure it was MSI and ASUS)

Not going to be able to get 64GB of memory out of an LGA1150 socket board. But the i7-4790k is the fastest quad core you can get at the moment, edges out the LGA2011 i7-4920k, 4930k adds 2 cores for about $300.

Maybe this:
PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z2NrRB
Price breakdown by merchant: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Z2NrRB/by_merchant/

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($339.98 @ SuperBiiz)
CPU Cooler: Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler ($64.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($203.99 @ NCIX US)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 32GB (4 x 8GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($325.98 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($599.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $2134.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-07-31 15:29 EDT-0400
 
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Well I can wait a couple of months to do something, but my FX and my HD7970 cannot keep up these days, ill get 60 in a few games but i cant run everything on high-maxed. I also have a 120hz monitor that I want to make use of haha. But if I have learned anything from buying the first version of a product is that it is faulty and buggy, that's why I'm not looking into getting a Broadwell at this moment.

With the GPUs. Is MSI better than EVGA? Also, will my PSU listed be able to run 2 780ti and all the other components without a chance of being underpowered?

Cpu: Is the quad core 1150 better than the 4930k? The reason I'm asking is because, what I've heard from other posters on this site is that Intel makes two types of processors. For example, Ivy-Bridge-E and Ivy-Bridge. From what I read, the "E" means that there are more Lanes PCI-Express which means it can handle true dual 16x SLI. I didn't see the "E" in the 1150 quad core. So will it have less lanes?

CPU cooler: Im assuming that is an Air cooler. I plan on getting a liquid cooler for the cpu instead of air, and i dont know which Corsair one to get. I hear the H100s are good.

Other than that, the rest of the build looks fine. But if you could help me with the above, i would greatly appreciate it.
 
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Corsair Professional Series AX 850 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Gold
Gigabyte LGA 2011 DDR3 2133 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard GA-X79-UP4
Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866 MHZ (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card
(2x) Samsung Electronics Samsung 840 Series Solid State Drive (SSD) 500 GB SATAIII 2.5-Inch
(4x) Western Digital 4TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive, Black, WD4003FZEX
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit
(2x) LG Internal Blu-ray Writer

It rocks, plus the gigabyte board will handle a mackintosh build if you ever want to go that way.
This system works well with Linux as well.
You can always start with less (fewer) HDD's and Optical discs to save cash.
 
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LGA2011 boards are the 'workstation' class boards. The E class chips they take do have more cache and more PCIe 3.0 lanes 40 instead of 32. As mentioned the i7-4930k is a hex core processor, but it is nearly double the price of the i7-4790k and the i7-4920k, and will only provide an advantage in actions that can use more then 8 threads.

Broadwell will be the consumer refresh of the Haswell line. Haswell E will be an all new platform with a updated socket (Still LGA2011 but it won't be backwards compatible with Ivy and Sandy Bridge E) and it will use DDR4 memory instead of DDR3.

There isn't really a video card available that can use the bandwidth available from PCIe 3.0 @ 8x so you don't gain much by having 16x SLI or Crossfire.
 
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If you are looking for a CPU that will work for gaming or apps using gpu processing you will find any of them will process 4 - 5 times faster than the pcie interface can move data. The pcie is the bottleneck currently holding back the gpu - CPU throughput speeds. NVIDIA's nvlink will eliminate that but it will be a while to get it rolled out.
Soon computer running at 1000 petaflops will be possible (50-100 times faster than today fastest supercomputers using this technology, but for now the question of which CPU will run faster with the gpu in tandem is moot because they are all faster than the pcie interface linking them.
 
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Okay. So at this moment, there are no GPUs that can support and/or use the full x16 of a PCI-E 3.0? I find that hard to believe. But anywho. I dont mind spending 600 on a processor. I really only need a GPU CPU and Mobo. I was planning on buying a 600 CPU, 400 Mobo, and at least 700-800 GPU, Im keeping the rest of my hardware. Im just switching AMD for Intel/nVidia. I don't think I'm going to do SLI, unless you guys think its worth it for 2 780 Tis and ill def need to get a new PSU for that. As for the board. I just dont know what mobo better for preparing for future games.
 
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So I was messing around on Newegg with the Socket 1150 and this is what I was thinking for internals. Let me know your thoughts on the listed items. Keep in mind, I DO plan on streaming with this build!

Mobo: ASUS Maximus VII Formula
CPU: 4790K
GPU: (1-2) EVGA GTX 780Ti Dual Classified
RAM: GSKILL Sniper Series 2133 32gb (or will i be fine with 16gb?)
CURRENT PSU: Antec HCP-850 Platinum (Will this be able to run the above alright?)

Grand Total (Minus my PSU): $1,889.94 w/3day (Because free gets you damaged products lol)

I'm starting to warm up to 1150. I heard the Haswell is a beautiful i7. Even with the reduced cores, I should be able to unlock a lot of PCI-E 3.0 with only 1 780ti. Also, EVGA has a 90 day Buy-Up program, meaning if their 8 series comes out within 90 days of your purchase, you pay the difference in price between the two cards, and you get a new card. So i could potentially get a 880 for anywhere between 100-200 bucks! If i choose to do so.

Also, when the new Broadwell comes out, will the 1150 haswell decrease a lot in price or stay the same?

Let me know your thoughts on this, or what you think should be changed :)
 
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Actually all the cpu's available will overpower the pcie interface, but of course you can still find a good working matchup. I am using a Gigabyte LGA 2011 DDR3 2133 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard GA-X79-UP4 mobo with Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011 with air cooling Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 2 120mm PWM Fans and EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card. I run all my games at full settings and have no issues at all and high frame rates. With this setup I can also run 3dsmax and render quickly and also do video editing on the machine. If you are looking for more than a strictly gaming system and want to be able to do more demanding computing as well, it is a good setup at a decent price and the mobo can handle up to 64 gb of quad channel memory.
The key to this build has been the case. I use a Silverstone Tek FT02B-USB3.0 Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Uni-Body Frame Computer Case that mounts the components at a 90 degree angle so the airflow all is going from bottom to top and the components actually increase that flow instead of diverting it. The case also filters the air so it stays a lot cleaner ( I live in Arizona, dust capital of the world) than any of the other cases I have used and I tried a lot.
This mobo will also handle up to 4 nvidia cards in sli or 3 amd cards in crossfire. It will also handel a Hackintosh build if you want, and works very very well with linux.
with this capacity it is fairly well future proofed as well and highly upgadeable. I am only using 4 of the 8 memory slots so far and only 16gb.
Here is the full build: Silverstone Tek FT02B-USB3.0 Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Uni-Body Frame Computer Case
Corsair Professional Series AX 850 Watt ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Gold
Gigabyte LGA 2011 DDR3 2133 Intel X79 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Motherboard GA-X79-UP4
Intel Core i7-3930K Hexa-Core Processor 3.2 Ghz 12 MB Cache LGA 2011
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO - CPU Cooler with 120mm PWM Fan
Corsair Dominator Platinum 16GB (4x4GB) DDR3 1866 MHZ (PC3 15000) Desktop Memory
EVGA GeForce GTX 680 Classified 4 GB DDR5 Graphics Card
(2x) Samsung Electronics Samsung 840 Series Solid State Drive (SSD) 500 GB SATAIII 2.5-Inch
(4x) Western Digital 4TB SATA III 7200 RPM 64 MB Cache Bulk/OEM Desktop Hard Drive, Black, WD4003FZEX
Windows 7 Professional SP1 64bit
(2x) LG Internal Blu-ray Writer
12" Cold Cathode Case Lights - 2 Piece (Blue)
*Adding (after August 8) Samsung Electronics Samsung 850 Pro-Series 2.5" 1TB SATA III Internal Solid State Drive Single Unit Version MZ-7KE1T0BW
the cpu is a hex core not a quad and can be overclocked in turbo mode to 3.8 ghz and can go to 4.0 ghz with higher overclocking (I never overclock because I prefer longer life)
I also bought it all on Amazon not the egg because I get free shipping and it's 2 days and the prices are so close one is lower on one thing and the other on something else, it's a wash.
 
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Well i dont want a full rebuild. i just want Mobo Cpu Ram GPU. My SSDs are fine and my compents are fine. Im looking for AMD to Intel/nVidia switch.
 
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compare the gigabyte to the asus.
and look at the intel 3930
it's a few buck more, but more overclockable and a rock solid processor at 4.0 ghz

whether you go the way you mentioned or this way, you will be happy. Asus is a good product, I have a monitor and a laptop from them, both work fine. I just liked the look of the gigabyte better and the extra niceties it provides versus the Asus.
But think about upgrading to the silverstone tek case... :)you will be so glad you did.
or in silver
 
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