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August 1, 2014 8:55:48 AM

So, i have an intel core 2 quad q6600.
I don't have alot of money so would it be worth it to get the pentium (and probably upgrade it in the future for an i7 or something)
Please note that I'm not gonna play BF3 nor BF4 multiplayer single player yes.
I'm usually playing:
Black ops 2 MP
Sims 3 (+ expansions) - Playing this WAY more than the other ones.
Saints row IV
Sleeping dogs
And some GTA IV.
Also please note that i already have a motherboard, case and psu for the pentium.. I'll pair it with 1x8gb ram.

EDIT: I forgot to add that my q6600 has idle temps of 60c because one of the cooler's locks is broken.

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August 1, 2014 10:57:20 AM

1- The pentium provides headroom for future cpu's (broadwell) and more overclockability, better temps and single core performance of an i7

2- the q6600 is around 6 years old with 4 cores and performs slower than most pentiums of today..

- Take your pick
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August 1, 2014 11:01:22 AM

It sounds like you may want to begin the upgrade. While the C2Q is still a decent gamer with the right card, you would need to get a new cooler anyway. Don't keep running it with a defective cooler mount. If your platform still uses DDR2 RAM, that's another reason to upgrade.

Now that H81 boards are providing a BIOS to allow unlocking the multi on the G3258, you can get a low cost board... or you could plan ahead for the i5/i7 upgrade an get a high end board like a Z87/Z97. Your old components will allow you to re-coop some of the cost by selling them on ebay.
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August 1, 2014 11:12:38 AM

clutchc said:
It sounds like you may want to begin the upgrade. While the C2Q is still a decent gamer with the right card, you would need to get a new cooler anyway. Don't keep running it with a defective cooler mount. If your platform still uses DDR2 RAM, that's another reason to upgrade.

Now that H81 boards are providing a BIOS to allow unlocking the multi on the G3258, you can get a low cost board... or you could plan ahead for the i5/i7 upgrade an get a high end board like a Z87/Z97. Your old components will allow you to re-coop some of the cost by selling them on ebay.


I already have a cheap 1150 motherboard (MSI H81M-P33 V2).
And yes the core 2 quad is DDR2. (it's mobo is an Asus p5q)
I also have a new case if i decide to get the pentium. Also (I know this isn't the right forum but) Is it's interigated any good? because i'll have to use either the interigated or an hd 5450... (until i get a better card ofcourse)
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August 1, 2014 11:18:12 AM

The on-die GPU is adequate for light gaming if that is what you mean. About in the class of your HD 5450. Are you planning to OC the Pentium?
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August 1, 2014 11:23:29 AM

clutchc said:
The on-die GPU is adequate for light gaming if that is what you mean. About in the class of your HD 5450. Are you planning to OC the Pentium?


Yes i would like to. Could i go to 4ghz without changing the voltage?
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August 1, 2014 11:30:09 AM

Georgegreece said:
clutchc said:
The on-die GPU is adequate for light gaming if that is what you mean. About in the class of your HD 5450. Are you planning to OC the Pentium?


Yes i would like to. Could i go to 4ghz without changing the voltage?


It will all depend on how good the CPU you get is. Some are better than others. Here is a recent review you may be interested in: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-c...
I believe they use your board.

But be sure you update the board's BIOS to the new one, or it won't allow changing the multiplier: http://www.msi.com/support/mb/H81MP33.html#down-bios
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August 1, 2014 11:34:49 AM

clutchc said:
Georgegreece said:
clutchc said:
The on-die GPU is adequate for light gaming if that is what you mean. About in the class of your HD 5450. Are you planning to OC the Pentium?


Yes i would like to. Could i go to 4ghz without changing the voltage?


It will all depend on how good the CPU you get is. Some are better than others. Here is a recent review you may be interested in: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pentium-g3258-b81-c...
I believe they use your board.

But be sure you update the board's BIOS to the new one, or it won't allow changing the multiplier: http://www.msi.com/support/mb/H81MP33.html#down-bios


Thanks. I also have some more questions (SORRY for bombarding you with questions..)
I have some 'lag when openning programs and stuff (aka it takes some secs before they actually open). with the ddr3 1600 mhz ram and this cpu fix it?
Also, will this cpu work out well with an hd 7770?
and my final question: are you sure that i'll get better gaming performance? because i don't want to waste money.. I don't have money :( 
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August 1, 2014 11:49:56 AM

If you feel the delay opening apps is an issue, try cleaning up your system with CCleaner. Do the Clean and Registry portions both. You may need to run it more than once if the system is really bad. You'd be surprised how much worthless crap remains behind after uninstalling pgms. And how much junk in the registry slows down operations. https://www.piriform.com/CCLEANER (grab the free version)

The HD 770 (or R7-260) will be a good match with the dual core Pentium. And considerable improvement over your HD 5450: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7770-vs-Radeon-HD-545...
With an OC, the Pentium can keep up with faster cards too.

Your main issue with poor game performance even now, is your gfx card. Not the CPU. Just changing that alone will make a world of difference. May not have to do anything else to make yourself happy. What resolution is your display?
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August 1, 2014 11:56:26 AM

clutchc said:
If you feel the delay opening apps is an issue, try cleaning up your system with CCleaner. Do the Clean and Registry portions both. You may need to run it more than once if the system is really bad. You'd be surprised how much worthless crap remains behind after uninstalling pgms. And how much junk in the registry slows down operations. https://www.piriform.com/CCLEANER (grab the free version)

The HD 770 (or R7-260) will be a good match with the dual core Pentium. And considerable improvement over your HD 5450: http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-HD-7770-vs-Radeon-HD-545...
With an OC, the Pentium can keep up with faster cards too.

Your main issue with poor game performance even now, is your gfx card. Not the CPU. Just changing that alone will make a world of difference. May not have to do anything else to make yourself happy. What resolution is your display?


I'm on 1440x900. I can play black ops 2 with everything off/low with textures ultra with around 40 fps. (Not overclocked)
I formated this system's HDDs and installed windows 1 month ago tho.


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August 1, 2014 12:05:59 PM

Yeah, at that medium resolution, the HD 7770/R7-260 should make you real happy. Why not get that first. I'll bet you won't even want to upgrade after you see the performance difference. I'd still run CCleaner occasionally. And disable as much junk running in the background as possible. Check your tray for stuff you can disable while gaming.
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August 1, 2014 12:15:04 PM

clutchc said:
Yeah, at that medium resolution, the HD 7770/R7-260 should make you real happy. Why not get that first. I'll bet you won't even want to upgrade after you see the performance difference. I'd still run CCleaner occasionally. And disable as much junk running in the background as possible. Check your tray for stuff you can disable while gaming.


Yes i will probably get the 7770 And the CPU together and then the RAM.
Also, I know i said before that it'll be my last question but..
i know this isn't the forum for this but is the 7770 really good for what i'm gonna play?
(last question... i swear)Will it play 1440p videos? (Yes I know my monitor is smaller but 1080p youtube videos look BAD)
(I don't want to create another thread there because it usually takes hours for someone to respond).
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August 1, 2014 12:26:02 PM

Georgegreece said:
clutchc said:
Yeah, at that medium resolution, the HD 7770/R7-260 should make you real happy. Why not get that first. I'll bet you won't even want to upgrade after you see the performance difference. I'd still run CCleaner occasionally. And disable as much junk running in the background as possible. Check your tray for stuff you can disable while gaming.


Yes i will probably get the 7770 And the CPU together and then the RAM.
Also, I know i said before that it'll be my last question but..
i know this isn't the forum for this but is the 7770 really good for what i'm gonna play?
(last question... i swear)Will it play 1440p videos? (Yes I know my monitor is smaller but 1080p youtube videos look BAD)
(I don't want to create another thread there because it usually takes hours for someone to respond).


1440p is vert. resolution. (2,560 x 1,440) Don't confuse that with your monitor's 1440 horz. resolution. If 1080p videos look bad on your display now, something else is at play.

There are better cards than the HD 7770 that would be a reasonable match to your Q6600. But it will depend on your budget for the card... and more importantly, the make/model of your PSU.
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August 1, 2014 12:29:07 PM

clutchc said:
Georgegreece said:
clutchc said:
Yeah, at that medium resolution, the HD 7770/R7-260 should make you real happy. Why not get that first. I'll bet you won't even want to upgrade after you see the performance difference. I'd still run CCleaner occasionally. And disable as much junk running in the background as possible. Check your tray for stuff you can disable while gaming.


Yes i will probably get the 7770 And the CPU together and then the RAM.
Also, I know i said before that it'll be my last question but..
i know this isn't the forum for this but is the 7770 really good for what i'm gonna play?
(last question... i swear)Will it play 1440p videos? (Yes I know my monitor is smaller but 1080p youtube videos look BAD)
(I don't want to create another thread there because it usually takes hours for someone to respond).


1440p is vert. resolution. (2,560 x 1,440) Don't confuse that with your monitor's 1440 horz. resolution. If 1080p videos look bad on your display now, something else is at play.

There are better cards than the HD 7770 that would be a reasonable match to your Q6600. But it will depend on your budget for the card... and more importantly, the make/model of your PSU.


Oh, my PSU is a corsair VS 550. it has 2 pci-e 6+2. I can buy an r7 265 2gb but i won't be able to get the pentium though. (i can still get it with the ram)
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August 1, 2014 12:40:02 PM

The R7-265 and Q6600 will be a faster than the Pentium and the HD 7770.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1127?vs=1079
It's all about the gfx card when dealing with the class of CPUs you are talking about. How much are you paying for the HD 7770?

But if you already have some of the upgrade components, it is probably a moot point at this time. Do the Pentium upgrade and the HD 7770. You will be fine either way at 1440x900.
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August 1, 2014 12:43:56 PM

clutchc said:
The R7-265 and Q6600 will be a faster than the Pentium and the HD 7770.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1127?vs=1079
It's all about the gfx card when dealing with the class of CPUs you are talking about. How much are you paying for the HD 7770?

But if you already have some of the upgrade components, it is probably a moot point at this time. Do the Pentium upgrade and the HD 7770. You will be fine either way at 1440x900.


The 7770 costs 90 euros. the r7 265 160 euros.
I already have: the PSU (I'm using a cheap one on the core 2 quad.. the corsair is still as good as new)
the motherboard and the case.
I could buy the r7 265 , a new cooler for the quad and add 2 more GB of ram. ( i currently have 4.) Will that be better? (in the future i'll probably buy an i7 or i5)
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August 1, 2014 12:50:59 PM

For instant gratification, it would be better. The R7-265 could probably run games at max/near max settings with the C2Q @ 1440x900. But for the long term satisfaction, stay with the upgrade plan to a modern system.
If you were in the States, I was going to help you find a best deal on the R7-265. But I'm not familiar with the Euro market.
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August 1, 2014 12:55:06 PM

clutchc said:
For instant gratification, it would be better. The R7-265 could probably run games at max/near max settings with the C2Q @ 1440x900. But for the long term satisfaction, stay with the upgrade plan to a modern system.
If you were in the States, I was going to help you find a best deal on the R7-265. But I'm not familiar with the Euro market.


What if I get the r7 265 the 2gb stick and use the core 2 quad until i have enough money for a verry good build(i7) (which means 3 months atleast). Will the core 2 quad be enough not to lag on the games I mentioned? (Other games i might install are: BF2, and maybe nfs rivals..)
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August 1, 2014 1:00:30 PM

What's your memory size/population now?
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August 1, 2014 1:03:12 PM

clutchc said:
What's your memory size/population now?


I have 4 gb of ram.. (2x2, corsair xms2) (Yes i know that it won't run on dual channel if i add another stick.)
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August 1, 2014 1:12:45 PM

Georgegreece said:
clutchc said:
What's your memory size/population now?


I have 4 gb of ram.. (2x2, corsair xms2) (Yes i know that it won't run on dual channel if i add another stick.)


Is this your MB? http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5Q/overview/
I used to have an Asus 775 socket board from that era (P5N-E SLI). It was very picky about mixing RAM. IF I didn't have all 4 sticks from a matched set, it would BSOD on me quite often.
The other thing is, do you have a 64 bit OS? No sense using 6GB if it isn't.

But to answer your question... the Q6600 and R7-265 will be better insurance against lagging in games than the dual core Pentium and the HD 7770. Did you say above that you were NOT going to play BF3/4 multiplayer? Because that is where a lot of lag comes in; from busy 64 player servers and a weak CPU.
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August 1, 2014 1:15:47 PM

clutchc said:
Georgegreece said:
clutchc said:
What's your memory size/population now?


I have 4 gb of ram.. (2x2, corsair xms2) (Yes i know that it won't run on dual channel if i add another stick.)


Is this your MB? http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/P5Q/overview/
I used to have an Asus 775 socket board from that era (P5N-E SLI). It was very picky about mixing RAM. IF I didn't have all 4 sticks from a matched set, it would BSOD on me quite often.
The other thing is, do you have a 64 bit OS? No sense using 6GB if it isn't.

But to answer your question... the Q6600 and R7-265 will be better insurance against lagging in games than the dual core Pentium and the HD 7770. Did you say above that you were NOT going to play BF3/4 multiplayer? Because that is where a lot of lag comes in; from busy 64 player servers and a weak CPU.


Yes that's my motherboard.
Yes I do have a 64bit OS.
And yes i won't be playing bf3/bf4 (even though i got bf3 for free) Because I SUCK at it.
I might play singleplayer.
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August 1, 2014 1:23:51 PM

why not just spring for a GTX750ti and avoid buyers remorse? I have a HD7770 and i'm regretting it. I love it but I haven't even pushed it to its limits and runs at 40% usage bottlenecked by my CPU (E6600).. Get the 750ti and avoid buyers remorse
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August 1, 2014 1:28:55 PM

haider95 said:
why not just spring for a GTX750ti and avoid buyers remorse? I have a HD7770 and i'm regretting it. I love it but I haven't even pushed it to its limits and runs at 40% usage bottlenecked by my CPU (E6600).. Get the 750ti and avoid buyers remorse


Well the gtx 750ti costs as much as an hd 7850 / r7 265... And if I get the aftermarket cooler I want I'll overclock to 3 ghz and it'll be fine..I guess...
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August 1, 2014 1:48:27 PM

Georgegreece said:
haider95 said:
why not just spring for a GTX750ti and avoid buyers remorse? I have a HD7770 and i'm regretting it. I love it but I haven't even pushed it to its limits and runs at 40% usage bottlenecked by my CPU (E6600).. Get the 750ti and avoid buyers remorse


Well the gtx 750ti costs as much as an hd 7850 / r7 265... And if I get the aftermarket cooler I want I'll overclock to 3 ghz and it'll be fine..I guess...


The stock g3258 will not bottleneck the 750ti.. you can overclock that thing on air to 4 ghz easily.. i've seen people OC it to 4.6 on stock cooler
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August 1, 2014 1:51:27 PM

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And yes i won't be playing bf3/bf4 (even though i got bf3 for free) Because I SUCK at it.
I might play singleplayer.


Lol... yeah, no fun playing if all you are is someone else's head shot.
I don't play them either, but for another reason. I'm too old to enjoy running around playing tag with guns I guess. Don't get any fun out of that.
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August 1, 2014 1:55:46 PM

haider95 said:
Georgegreece said:
haider95 said:
why not just spring for a GTX750ti and avoid buyers remorse? I have a HD7770 and i'm regretting it. I love it but I haven't even pushed it to its limits and runs at 40% usage bottlenecked by my CPU (E6600).. Get the 750ti and avoid buyers remorse


Well the gtx 750ti costs as much as an hd 7850 / r7 265... And if I get the aftermarket cooler I want I'll overclock to 3 ghz and it'll be fine..I guess...


The stock g3258 will not bottleneck the 750ti.. you can overclock that thing on air to 4 ghz easily.. i've seen people OC it to 4.6 on stock cooler


Well. It's either q6600 and r7 265 or g3258 and HD 7770....So, yeah i'd need a new cooler for the q6600 considering my current temps with only 8 chrome windows , steam and windows media player are 61c... and the cpu is underclocked to 1.8.... (Since i'm not playing bf3 or anything else than cod, men of war etc why should i upgrade so early?.. I'll get an i7 and 8gb ram and finish my new PC in 3-4 months aka after christmas)
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August 1, 2014 1:58:10 PM

clutchc said:
Georgegreece said:

And yes i won't be playing bf3/bf4 (even though i got bf3 for free) Because I SUCK at it.
I might play singleplayer.


Lol... yeah, no fun playing if all you are is someone else's head shot.
I don't play them either, but for another reason. I'm too old to enjoy running around playing tag with guns I guess. Don't get any fun out of that.

Well i couldn't get a single kill with the actual rifles... which pisses me off.
And generally i preffer games like Command and conquer, men of war, simulators such as euro truck simulator 2... i do enjoy some horror games though.. Also the r7 265 will max out probably everything in my resolution, right? I don't want to make the mistake i made when i bought my first PC (it was a stupid laptop)
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August 1, 2014 2:07:18 PM

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Also the r7 265 will max out probably everything in my resolution, right? I don't want to make the mistake i made when i bought my first PC (it was a stupid laptop)


At 1440x900 resolution, the R7-265 (old HD 7850) will allow you to play at max or near max settings in all those games with either processor. The slower Q6600 may be a bit better in games that are well threaded, the Pentium better where raw clock freq is important (it's hard to beat the Haswell IPC) and the game is less well threaded. But if you can get the old C2Q up to 3GHZ, that will make a nice difference.
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August 1, 2014 2:10:25 PM

clutchc said:
Georgegreece said:
Also the r7 265 will max out probably everything in my resolution, right? I don't want to make the mistake i made when i bought my first PC (it was a stupid laptop)


At 1440x900 resolution, the R7-265 (old HD 7850) will allow you to play at max or near max settings in all those games with either processor. The slower Q6600 may be a bit better in games that are well threaded, the Pentium better where raw clock freq is important (it's hard to beat the Haswell IPC) and the game is less well threaded. But if you can get the old C2Q up to 3GHZ, that will make a nice difference.


Okay thank you for replying to all those questions I had ! You rule ! And yes I'm planning to buy an i7 anyway so i just care if it'll be fine for some months.. Anyway, thanks again!
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August 1, 2014 2:13:12 PM

Anytime. Enjoy.
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