Enough power for Gigabyte GeForce GTX 780 WindForce 3x "GHz Edition

I suggest waiting for the new MAXWELL cards. The GTX880 (4GB?) is estimated to start at $500 and may be available this September at earliest (though I expect it to be SOLD OUT unless NVidia's had a lot of GPU's made): http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/nvidia-to-launch-geforce-gtx-880-in-september,3.html

Having said that, the big wait with my GTX680 at the time was due to the immature 28nm process and this time they are using the same process so no issue with that, and they have probably solved some taping-out issues with GTX750Ti GPU's as a test run. So the only issues are likely if the 3rd party coolers are available at launch, in stock, at a reasonable price...

Rough estimates put it as powerful as a GTX780Ti top-end card. The power is much lower than existing cards at this level. We already know this from looking at the GTX750Ti.

So the GTX880 compared to the GTX780:

a) will have more processing power
b) should use the same or less power
c) should be the same or quieter with a good cooler
d) may have 4GB vs 3GB
e) should do even BETTER slightly once software is optimized more for the Maxwell architecture

Alternatively, the GTX870 might be similar to a GTX780 in performance for perhaps $400 but again these are educated guesses.

 

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Thats not a bad idea either.
 

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Never trust what the box says it needs it is assuming your gonna buy a very low quality psu any decent 500 watt psu can handle any single gpu setup just fine. And your right abt that but the only reason i would say wait is that the new maxwell cards will be here in a few months.
 

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I might just hang on then as there is nothing wrong with my GTX570, at least if the GTX880 are stupid money the price of the GTX780 should drop a little, Thanks again for the advice.
 


Yes, there's always something new coming however when it's within a couple months and a significant difference I always recommend waiting, especially since you've likely waited quite a while already.

As for the POWER REQUIREMENTS it absolutely would not be an issue. The system in the following link used 372Watts with a GTX780Ti playing Crysis 3. The GTX880 would use LESS than that so even if you had a massively overclocked FX-8350 you couldn't come close to having a problem.
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7492/the-geforce-gtx-780-ti-review/15

For crying out loud you could likely support SLI of 2xGTX880 as the above link showed 556Watts power used for 2xGTX780Ti and again the GTX880 uses less power.
 
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I looked at your link again. The "best answer" guy is totally out to lunch. For easy reference, here's the power breakdown:

Motherboard for graphics: 75Watts max
6-pin: 75Watts max
8-pin: 150Watts max

So, a GTX770 that uses a 6-pin and 8-pin has up to 300 Watts available though it will use less. I have absolutely no idea where that guy came up with 600W for a GTX780 but he's not even close.

*I built my dad an i5-4670K system and it uses about 100Watts with the CPU at 100% (it has no graphics card).

**Nvidia has claimed up to 2X performance per Watt though I doubt that especially once overclocked however whatever it is it's quite significant. http://www.anandtech.com/show/7764/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-750-ti-and-gtx-750-review-maxwell/3
 

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Yes I have waited a while, a couple of months ago I did a full upgrade (apart from GPU & PSU) of my system, so I spent quite a bit of money then. I think I will hang on to see what the GTX880 is like, I also want a new monitor the spending never stops.
Thanks again guys for the sound advice.
 

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Haha tell me abt it i almost regret moving over to pc gaming its a giant money pit. I could fix my car so its not a death trap hell i could move out of my crappy apartment but no computer parts.
 

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I know what your saying, I've tried the PS4/Xbox 1 gaming route but they are not a patch on a well specked PC. Looks like GTX880 hear we come, just have to hide card receipt from the wife. Any ideas on a good monitor around 22 inch to 24 inch, £200 ish not bothered about 4k ?
 


I think you'll be happy you waited. Not that the GTX780 isn't a great card, but there are already several games out that it can't max out.

As for monitors, the new G-Sync monitors are amazing but just too expensive. The one I'd recommend (aside from price) is the Asus ROG Swift which is 2560x1440, 120Hz G-Sync but also $800 USD. Ouch.

There are good 2560x1440 monitors for $500 (possibly less but be careful).

Keep in mind a good IPS panel has better color and viewing angles but TN is better for response times which reduces ghosting (2ms or less). Not sure what monitor you have but you can find a good 1920x1080 TN panel for about $125 through PCpartpicker (I forget the models but look at Customer scores... I think there was a BenQ and Asus but you can easily look that up).

Don't get a 21:9 ratio like the 2560x1080 monitors, and don't get one with poor customer feedback.
 

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Thats why id do it gotta have the best of the best. As far as a monitor idk there are too many options in that price range i prefer a 1080p with low response time and i prefer an IPS screen.
 


What is "the best of the best?"
The short answer, IMO, is the new Asus ROG Swift (G-Sync, 2560x1440, 120Hz+... ).
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-rog-swift-pg278q-gsync-gaming-monitor-review,11.html

There are PROS and CONS to every monitor. You actually summed up the main pro and con when picking a monitor. IPS panels on average have better color, but they also have higher response times which produces more ghosting. Response times are how long each pixel takes to change color (it's not instantaneous) and IPS panels are slower.

Not sure why you said "1080p" as 2560p (2560x1440) is a higher resolution. Response times (pixel changing color) aren't related to the screen resolution so the higher the resolution the better You can still send the monitor a 1920x1080 signal if your computer couldn't keep up with 2560x1440 to produce the highest FPS (i.e. 60FPS). My only issue with 3840x2160 is it's barely better than 2560x1440 in resolution, likely to have other issues, costs more, and to my knowledge has no G-Sync option.

Some people avoid high resolution due to the SCALING ISSUES. That's easily solved by adjusting the DPI in Windows (choose between 25% and 40%); for a browser you can use an addon in Firefox like NoSquint to preset (i.e. 180%) and for individual pages just use CTRL+Scroll (browser should store individual page changes). Simply put, higher resolution is better.

It's also a bit more complicated than this because there's more going on than just the type of panel. It's important to note that a really good QUALITY TN PANEL is quite excellent quality, whereas low-quality IPS panels have issues.

*Long story short, the ASUS ROG SWIFT 2560p monitor is the best monitor for gaming you can buy.

I'm not saying to buy it just responding to your statement of getting "the best" and the best gaming monitor is the ASUS ROG SWIFT hands down. I believe it just started shipping.

G-SYNC is not some minor gimmick. It's really, really amazing technology for producing the smoothest game experience whilst minimizing lag and worrying about meeting a particular VSYNC cap (to avoid screen tearing).

(The only thing I'm not certain is the anti-glass technology. Someone said it's NOT a glossy screen calling it a "POS" because of that. Well, glossy is idea if there's almost no light like in basement but you need some sort of anti-glare technology if like most people you have some light that can reflect. So for most people this would be ideal.)

SUMMARY:
I personally would NOT get the SWIFT yet, and definitely not sight unseen. While G-Sync is a game changer for this much money I'd like to see it on IPS with a lower response time (3ms or less), or else increase the TN panel viewing angles to be better. That's assuming everything else is up to snuff. For gaming monitors unfortunately it boils down to a choice between GHOSTING with IPS and Viewing Angles with TN panels and deciding which is the least evil.

There are some very inexpensive 1080p monitors ($125 USD) with good customer reviews which I'd probably recommend for a year or so to see if we can G-Sync in a better gaming screen.
 

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I was not talking about monitors when i said best of the best we were talking abt pc gaming vs console. then i ended that sentence and started talking abt a monitor.