PS3 Slim 120 GB CECH2004a GLOD BRICK

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So, I bought a PS3 Slim for 45€ with 1 controller and 1 game. So, since he said, there was no signal on the TV, I figured it was an easy fix. I was horribly wrong! So, I turned it on with my AV in, TV said No signal, used HDMI, no signal, tried to switch video modes by holding power button. that didn't work, because holding it and hearing a second beep, it went off, I also can't enter safe mode in any way.
I disassembled it and cleaned it, I found a lot of gunk inside and even spiderwebs... creepy, eh? :D Anyways, I cleaned it all up. Didn't reassemble yet, but tried to turn it on, still no luck. I haven't changed the thermal paste yet(I don't have any at the moment), but will do it later. I also tried a coin trick, by adding a coin between a thermal plate on the GPU, still no luck, tried it on the CPU also, still no luck.
So, I ran out of options, later on, I tried replacing HDD's, no luck, formatted stock HDD at FAT32, still no luck. I also tried a tutorial to force boot safe mode from USB, did that and I was like, WTF?? It semi-worked, because I did it(no safe mode on-screen by the way) and the no signal went away. Turned the system off, black screen but no signal is gone, after a few tried, No signal came back. Then I ran out of options again.
Some extra info, the Blu-Ray drive works, because it spits and eats discs, even starts spinning inside and trying to read aswell, but TV behaves the same way(no signal). Sometimes the fan even goes overdrive. The HDD light never blinks, but HDD turns on and stays on. Controller has no sync also(with or without usb cable).
There is no warranty!!!

In conclusion, what should I do to fix this? Is reflow/reball the option, or flashing or is there an easier way? What is the cheapest way to fix this?

With regard,
Markus.

P.S: Sorry for the long novel. ;) (y)
 

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That coin trick is a horrible idea and what do u mean you dident replace the thermal paste? so you took the heatsink off and put a coin on the cpu put it back on without new thermal paste? if it wasnet broken before it probably is now. And it not displaying a video signal has nothing to do with the cpu or gpu overheating most likey, look for corrosion or a bad capacitor.
 

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No no no, you didn't get it. I did the coin trick this way(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD13PDZhPAw). I haven't gotten to the motherboard yet(removed the metal around it), that is why I haven't replaced the thermal paste. And I put the coin on the GPU(like in the video). Nohing has actually changed after the coin trick, but changed a bit later(at the flash part).
And like I said, I don't have thermal paste atm, got to get a new one.


I haven't examined the motherboard 100% yet, but will do later.
And how can I tell if my capacitor is dead?
You got any other solutions?

Oh, and is it a GLOD AT ALL?
 
GLOD is when you push the power button and it tries to turn on, it shuts off and the light flashes.

this is typically caused by two things... a bad power supply or the solder which connects the cpu cracking because of age. it cracks because they use unleaded solder instead of leaded since some countries require it.

if its a solder issue... pushing the power button and attempting to restart about 15-20 times heats up the solder causing it to melt and reform the connection and it will start up and play fine. if its the psu issue it will not do this.

assuming of course that its a GLOD (the flashing light) and that its one of the two common ploblems.

i personally have a GLOD fat model sitting in the closet. it works (restart it 20x) but needs to have the solder balls replaced and i dont have the cash or know where to take it for that just yet.
 

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Well, I think I don't have a GLOD then after all. Because mine STAYS ON and also the HDD stays on(no indicator light though). The display is black though(av and hdmi). I also can't reset video settings or enter safe mode(holding down makes no second beep)(after 10 sec makes beep and shuts off).

So, can some pressure to the CPU or GPU fix it, or power cycling(how to do that), or maybe replacing thermal grease, or even reflow or reball(cpu or gpu then)?
 

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This is probably a bad idea and i wouldn't recommend but you can try to wrap the ps3 in a towel and let it overheat itself for like 20 minutes this is what we used to do with xbox 360s that had the red ring of death it would sometimes give them a few more weeks of life.
 
do not wrap a towel around the ps3 and have it on. that is not a good idea.

it could be that the ps3 is trying to output a different display resolution.

connect up via hdmi... and
while starting the ps3 hold it till it beeps twice the first will beep when it starts, the second one will beep after 5 seconds or so. the video settings will then be returned to default value.

if that doesnt work then you could try a system restore to factory settings which erases all saved game data. since its new (to you at least) the data shouldnt matter.

Do not hold your power button for longer than 2 beeps. Holding it down for 3 beeps, or 10 seconds, can perform a forced factory restoration, erasing all your data.

if you do not have a flashing light... then you do not have a GLOD.

my own ps3 has had the no-video issue and this was caused when i traveled to a friends house who had a 720p tv and i hooked it up (my own is 1080p) and it refused to display. a video reset (2 beeps) worked.

if neither reset works then there could be something else at play. perhaps failed hardware.
 

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ssddx, I tried to do it, but I hear the second beep after 10 seconds when it shuts off, I can't reset or enter safe mode, I formatted HDD, that was at no help. I have no flashing light, just a green stable light, HDD is on. HDMI and AV no display, no video reset can be done...


What is the problem?
 
also of note: are you hooking this up to a tv or monitor?

your display absolutely needs HDCP support or it will display nothing

you could also try using composite cables.

you might also want to look up your particular model to see if its reset needs a different code.
 

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as far as i can tell both offer HDCP support. its typically listed in the specs (but isnt on the official samsung page for some reason?) you might want to doublecheck hdcp in the manual (ctrl+f on the pdf for hdcp)

this particular thing http://www.walmart.com/ip/Sony-A-V-Component-Cable-PS3-PS3/5651640 but perhaps you were already using it since you listed AV cable before?

if you have another hdmi cable which you know works.. you can try that as well.

also make sure your tv is on the right source... and perhaps try a different hdmi port on your tv as an input, swapping the source to this of course.

by code i mean model # such as this CECH-25xxA which is on the ps3 somewhere. while i think they kept the same reset sequence... its always best to check that you are trying to input the correct one. perhaps they changed it between the models..

while i wouldnt go so far as to say you arent doing it right myself as this below poster said in his thread... safemode and video reset are built into every ps3. if you arent hearing the beeping you might want to definitely check that you are following the directions exactly.

Im pretty sure you are just not doing it right....

hold down the power button until the ps3 beeps and then shuts off

then let go and hold it down again, until it beeps twice... let go... at this point it will go into recovery mode (or safe mode as you put it)

do this with only the AV cables pluged in

then click restart PS3

i also saw a user link video issues to needing a reflowing but i cannot be sure that this is the issue.

your console needs the RSX/CPU/Southbridge reflowing. Intermittent video & audio problems on boot up are NOT firmware related.

also of note is what this guy says about what he needs to do in order to connect his tv to a ps3

I know that I always (without fail) have to power down my TV (as in, actually power cycling it instead of just suspending it) and restart it in order to reconnect my PS3 through HDMI. This is particularly annoying if it crashes during Fallout: New Vegas (turn off the TV, power off the PS3, listen for the 3 beep crash, power on the TV, power on the PS3).

some televisions can definitely be touchy. we have a samsung un50eh6000fxza in the other room and its rather touchy on its inputs. my older sony i'm on now connects to just about anything without issue. i think its because the new tv times out when searching for an input device so it misses the hdmi handshakes sometimes.

 

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First of all, I realised I gave you the wrong link. :D Whoops, here is the right one: http://www.samsung.com/ee/consumer/tv-audio-video/televisions/led-tv/UE32F5700AWXXH
Still has HDCP though. Phew. :)

Second, I couldn't find no composite cables here, only Component. Can this be a problem, that I am connecting to Ext. Scart and not AV? Tried AV, that didn't work.(I am using the ones with 3 tips: yellow, white and red)

Third, trying to enter SM doesn't work, I do as you say and also the second time it does the same thing it did at first(hold down until second beep)(does it for the third time as well).

Fourth, trying 3 HDMI cables and still no luck, tried it with SCART and AV, still nothing, tried connecting to the external monitor, still nothing, I haven't gotten my hands on to a Composite cable yet...

Fifth, my console also shuts down after holding the power button for longer than 20 seconds, all the time.

Sixth, my fan sometimes goes overdrive, very very noisy and fast.

Seventh, my HDD stays on and there is no indicator light, turning it on without the HDD still brings no luck.

Eighth, running a game won't work, also running a DVD or Audio cd won't work.

Ninth, checking for region codes was of no help.

Furthermore, is this fix safe? http://www.techsupportforum.com/forums/f142/solved-ps3-glod-755073.html
And can replacing thermal paste or adding pressure to Southbridge/CPU/RSX of any help?
Will restart about 15-20 times work, or power cycle restart, or will it do more harm?

EDIT: Tried on an another TV in AV and HDMI and also another monitor in HDMI, stil no luck...


 
if your fan is going into overdrive you might benefit from taking the system apart, dusting it, removing the heatsinks, cleaning off the existing compound and using artic silver 5. its safe provided you are careful and do it with the power cord unplugged. dont touch any internals until you touch a metal surface to discharge static though.

i'm not sure if a reball would fix your issue. i know it fixes the GLOD error in cases where the system shuts down ever 5 seconds due to a cpu/gpu error caused by bad connections however you do not seem to be having this same problem. also getting a reball done is not something you can do at home and takes special equipment. its also not cheap.

it could be that the ps3 is in need of more than a few simple fixes. perhaps the gpu is shot.

honestly... its hard to say without trying things. i would certainly try cleaning and repasting though as that is cheap.

power cycling is only useful for a system suffering a reball issue. so in the case of my own ps3 works but will not work for other issues.

it might be beyond your ability to repair it at home. we have tried almost all of what you can do on your own which might be the problem.
 
as i said before... a reflow helps if a poor connection on the chip is the issue. this is often the case for older "fat" systems since the non-leaded solder breaks down over time.

you have a slim, so it may not be old enough to have that issue and based on what you've said so far.. doesnt appear to have this as the issue.

i cannot say for sure of course, but that would be my first thoughts.
 

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Okay, people, I found some problems, first, I found lots of brown liquid-ish corrosion by the solder points of the USB, connection ports(av and hdmi, digital and ethernet), also corrosion at hdd sata solder points, and also at the point, where there are 2 power plugs near the Marvel chip.also lots of white stuff on some chips and bad thermal paste on CPU and RSX, southbridge has a gluey spot on it, will clean the entire system and report back later.
Cleaning the motherboard with canned air, q-tips with rubbing alcohol and wipes, cleaning the internal poits with pin alcohol and canned air. Gonna use AS MX-2 thermal paste, the only one I had... Will clean the PSU(and adjust patentiometers)clean heatsinks, fans, everyting. Gonna report back later. I will maybe use a copper shim to see if that helps.

I have found some similar brown corrosion like this: http://802.11junk.com/jeffl/crud/toshiba-rot-02.jpg
Just rubbing it with alcohol won't remove it, fingernail did it, is it safe with the fingernail or is there another way?