Will an i5 4440 bottleneck an R9 295X2?

ZerkaaHD · Aug 2, 2014

Been offered an R9 295X2 at a steal price, however it means I won't be upgrading the rest of my rig, will the i5 4440 bottleneck it?

Littlesackninja · Aug 2, 2014

Most Definatly, Although the 4440 is still a good cpu and it should be fine, If you were offered it at a good price and its not a scam (Make sure they havent used it for bitcoin mining) then i say TAKE IT, But you will want to upgrade to somthing like a 4770k as soon as possible.

Littlesackninja · Aug 2, 2014

What psu do you have as you need to make sure it supports the R9 295X2, Some psu's dont support it apparently so read up on that.

ZerkaaHD · Aug 2, 2014

Littlesackninja :

Do you know any of the modestly priced ones which do support it? And what would the reason be some don't?

Also how much would the i5 4440 bottleneck it by?

angelice · Aug 2, 2014

The honest answer is that because of the relative newness of the video card and the amount of draw that is needed from the card there are likly to be very few that do support it.

Quote from AMD "28 A of current to each of the 8-pin auxiliary
power connectors on your graphics card
50 A of combined current to the pair of 8-pin
auxiliary power connectors
Adequate additional current for the CPU,
motherboard and other components in your system"

There suggested power supplies
Enermax MaxRevo EMR1500 $329.99 NewEgg
LEPA G-1600MA $299.99 $249.99 after $50.00 rebate card $7.30 Shipping Newegg
Silverstone Technology Strider ST1500 $295.99 SuperBiiz
Thermaltake TP-1500M $327.64 Amazon

Nothing really moderately priced ...

angelice · Aug 2, 2014

Although using a calculator a 900-1000w with 50A over 8 pin graphics cards and sufficient amperage to power a moderate cpu etc should suffice.

angelice · Aug 2, 2014

As for how much a 4440 can bottleneck it by thats hard telling theres still not alot of benchmarking on the 295x2 so I am unsure possibly someone else can help you with that.

Littlesackninja · Aug 2, 2014

Here: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g21300xr It should support it and has a whopping 1300w's for you too play with, If thats a bit overkill then the http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr is more suited although would be able to Crossfire it. Both come with 10 Year warranty's, 80+ Gold, Great customer Service, Japanese capacitors, 90% Efficiency, Aswell as being fully modular.

damric · Aug 2, 2014

Bottleneck depends on more than just CPU/GPU configuration. It depends more on what game engine, and resolution and refresh rate.

ZerkaaHD · Aug 2, 2014

Would an the Xeon E3 1230V3 bottleneck it? (If you can't tell I want to go for non overclocking options due to ease of use, out of the box reasons)

And would an XFX 1050W PSU be supported?

ZerkaaHD · Aug 2, 2014

damric :

Well would the i5 4440 bottleneck it in many games? If so which would it happen in? If you can think of soem off the top of your head.

Littlesackninja · Aug 2, 2014

No, That Xeon most definatly wouldnt bottleneck it, If you can get your hands on that then go for that all the way!
Also that psu would be supported but the 1000w isnt necissary unless you pplan to do xFIRE, If not then just go with the evga one i linked (850w)

ZerkaaHD · Aug 2, 2014

Littlesackninja :

How can you tell if it's supported?

ALso what would you take? the i5 4670K OCed or the Xeon with a B85 Mobo? They end up at the sameish price.

Also why is the XFX 1050W not supported?

Also are you sure 850-W will be enough? Coolermaster's PSU Calc (and I know PSU calc's aren't very accurate) suggests 900W.

angelice · Aug 2, 2014

850-900w should be more than sufficient unless you are running a massive amount fans, Hard drives, etc. I believe he was saying that the 1050 w would be fine but would be overkill ... The biggest thing is just to make sure to check the amperage on the power supply I'm fairly certain given that the 295x2 only needs 50amps any power supply (properly built) with 60 or more amps should be more than sufficient as that is a pretty low power processor(84w).

ZerkaaHD · Aug 2, 2014

angelice :

I'm using 4HDD's and an SSD, + 1 Optical Drive if that helps.

angelice · Aug 2, 2014

ok you might want something closer to the 900 mark, to be safe and future proof. but I also assumed 6 fans which is likely more than you have but .. I would be leaning towards you using a little more than 850 at peak no matter what.

Littlesackninja · Aug 3, 2014

The 4690k Oced would be much faster, Even without over clocking they are about the same, Maybe the xeon is a bit worse

Littlesackninja · Aug 3, 2014

The power supply i linked will sufice unless you plan on Crossfiring the 295x2.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr
10 year warranty
80+ Gold
Great customer service
Japanese Capacitors
Fully Modular
90% Average Efficiency
Panda Friendly Eco Mode (Zero Rpm until 40% load)

ZerkaaHD · Aug 3, 2014

Littlesackninja :

how would the Xeon be worse than the 4690K at stock? It's basically a locked i7 with no iGPU for the same price as the 4690K.

Littlesackninja · Aug 3, 2014

Actually iv read up some comparisons, If you can get the xeon, then "Take It!"

RobCrezz · Aug 3, 2014

Your current CPU will be totally fine for the 295X2, I wouldnt bother upgrading, any of the CPUs listed will give only a small % difference, your current CPU is top tier for gaming.

Littlesackninja · Aug 3, 2014

i5 4440 isnt quite top teir, and if you can get the xeon then "Take it now!"
The i5-4440 still is good but if you can get the R9 295x2 and the xeon or 4690k, Then Take it!

RobCrezz · Aug 3, 2014

Littlesackninja :

Got any benchmarks to show otherwise?

Tomshardware disagrees with you:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclock,review-32901-5.html

The slightly lower 4430 is top tier.

Littlesackninja · Aug 3, 2014

RobCrezz :

But still not as good as the Xeon or i5-4690k

RobCrezz · Aug 3, 2014

Obviously, but not a worthwhile upgrade if he already has the 4440, IMO.

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