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Will an i5 4440 bottleneck an R9 295X2?

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August 2, 2014 4:40:22 PM

Been offered an R9 295X2 at a steal price, however it means I won't be upgrading the rest of my rig, will the i5 4440 bottleneck it?

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August 2, 2014 4:43:07 PM

Most Definatly, Although the 4440 is still a good cpu and it should be fine, If you were offered it at a good price and its not a scam (Make sure they havent used it for bitcoin mining) then i say TAKE IT, But you will want to upgrade to somthing like a 4770k as soon as possible.
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August 2, 2014 4:44:17 PM

What psu do you have as you need to make sure it supports the R9 295X2, Some psu's dont support it apparently so read up on that.
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August 2, 2014 4:46:02 PM

Littlesackninja said:
What psu do you have as you need to make sure it supports the R9 295X2, Some psu's dont support it apparently so read up on that.


Do you know any of the modestly priced ones which do support it? And what would the reason be some don't?

Also how much would the i5 4440 bottleneck it by?
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August 2, 2014 4:54:27 PM

The honest answer is that because of the relative newness of the video card and the amount of draw that is needed from the card there are likly to be very few that do support it.

Quote from AMD "28 A of current to each of the 8-pin auxiliary
power connectors on your graphics card
50 A of combined current to the pair of 8-pin
auxiliary power connectors
Adequate additional current for the CPU,
motherboard and other components in your system"

There suggested power supplies
Enermax MaxRevo EMR1500 $329.99 NewEgg
LEPA G-1600MA $299.99 $249.99 after $50.00 rebate card $7.30 Shipping Newegg
Silverstone Technology Strider ST1500 $295.99 SuperBiiz
Thermaltake TP-1500M $327.64 Amazon

Nothing really moderately priced ...
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August 2, 2014 4:56:46 PM

Although using a calculator a 900-1000w with 50A over 8 pin graphics cards and sufficient amperage to power a moderate cpu etc should suffice.
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August 2, 2014 4:57:45 PM

As for how much a 4440 can bottleneck it by thats hard telling theres still not alot of benchmarking on the 295x2 so I am unsure possibly someone else can help you with that.
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August 2, 2014 4:58:32 PM

Here: http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g2130... It should support it and has a whopping 1300w's for you too play with, If thats a bit overkill then the http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g2... is more suited although would be able to Crossfire it. Both come with 10 Year warranty's, 80+ Gold, Great customer Service, Japanese capacitors, 90% Efficiency, Aswell as being fully modular.
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August 2, 2014 4:58:46 PM

Bottleneck depends on more than just CPU/GPU configuration. It depends more on what game engine, and resolution and refresh rate.
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August 2, 2014 5:07:35 PM

Would an the Xeon E3 1230V3 bottleneck it? (If you can't tell I want to go for non overclocking options due to ease of use, out of the box reasons)

And would an XFX 1050W PSU be supported?
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August 2, 2014 5:10:48 PM

damric said:
Bottleneck depends on more than just CPU/GPU configuration. It depends more on what game engine, and resolution and refresh rate.


Well would the i5 4440 bottleneck it in many games? If so which would it happen in? If you can think of soem off the top of your head.
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August 2, 2014 5:11:01 PM

No, That Xeon most definatly wouldnt bottleneck it, If you can get your hands on that then go for that all the way!
Also that psu would be supported but the 1000w isnt necissary unless you pplan to do xFIRE, If not then just go with the evga one i linked (850w)
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August 2, 2014 5:24:28 PM

Littlesackninja said:
No, That Xeon most definatly wouldnt bottleneck it, If you can get your hands on that then go for that all the way!
Also that psu would be supported but the 1000w isnt necissary unless you pplan to do xFIRE, If not then just go with the evga one i linked (850w)


How can you tell if it's supported?

ALso what would you take? the i5 4670K OCed or the Xeon with a B85 Mobo? They end up at the sameish price.

Also why is the XFX 1050W not supported?

Also are you sure 850-W will be enough? Coolermaster's PSU Calc (and I know PSU calc's aren't very accurate) suggests 900W.
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August 2, 2014 6:19:59 PM

850-900w should be more than sufficient unless you are running a massive amount fans, Hard drives, etc. I believe he was saying that the 1050 w would be fine but would be overkill ... The biggest thing is just to make sure to check the amperage on the power supply I'm fairly certain given that the 295x2 only needs 50amps any power supply (properly built) with 60 or more amps should be more than sufficient as that is a pretty low power processor(84w).
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August 2, 2014 6:25:19 PM

angelice said:
850-900w should be more than sufficient unless you are running a massive amount fans, Hard drives, etc. I believe he was saying that the 1050 w would be fine but would be overkill ... The biggest thing is just to make sure to check the amperage on the power supply I'm fairly certain given that the 295x2 only needs 50amps any power supply (properly built) with 60 or more amps should be more than sufficient as that is a pretty low power processor(84w).


I'm using 4HDD's and an SSD, + 1 Optical Drive if that helps.
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August 2, 2014 7:21:14 PM

ok you might want something closer to the 900 mark, to be safe and future proof. but I also assumed 6 fans which is likely more than you have but .. I would be leaning towards you using a little more than 850 at peak no matter what.
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August 3, 2014 2:37:30 AM

The 4690k Oced would be much faster, Even without over clocking they are about the same, Maybe the xeon is a bit worse
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August 3, 2014 2:42:07 AM

The power supply i linked will sufice unless you plan on Crossfiring the 295x2.
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g2...
10 year warranty
80+ Gold
Great customer service
Japanese Capacitors
Fully Modular
90% Average Efficiency
Panda Friendly Eco Mode (Zero Rpm until 40% load)
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August 3, 2014 3:11:57 AM

Littlesackninja said:
The 4690k Oced would be much faster, Even without over clocking they are about the same, Maybe the xeon is a bit worse


how would the Xeon be worse than the 4690K at stock? It's basically a locked i7 with no iGPU for the same price as the 4690K.
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August 3, 2014 3:23:21 AM

Actually iv read up some comparisons, If you can get the xeon, then "Take It!"
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August 3, 2014 3:25:29 AM

Your current CPU will be totally fine for the 295X2, I wouldnt bother upgrading, any of the CPUs listed will give only a small % difference, your current CPU is top tier for gaming.
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August 3, 2014 3:27:37 AM

i5 4440 isnt quite top teir, and if you can get the xeon then "Take it now!"
The i5-4440 still is good but if you can get the R9 295x2 and the xeon or 4690k, Then Take it!
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August 3, 2014 3:37:57 AM

Littlesackninja said:
i5 4440 isnt quite top teir, and if you can get the xeon then "Take it now!"
The i5-4440 still is good but if you can get the R9 295x2 and the xeon or 4690k, Then Take it!


Got any benchmarks to show otherwise?

Tomshardware disagrees with you:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...

The slightly lower 4430 is top tier.
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August 3, 2014 3:41:05 AM

RobCrezz said:
Littlesackninja said:
i5 4440 isnt quite top teir, and if you can get the xeon then "Take it now!"
The i5-4440 still is good but if you can get the R9 295x2 and the xeon or 4690k, Then Take it!


Got any benchmarks to show otherwise?

Tomshardware disagrees with you:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...

The slightly lower 4430 is top tier.


But still not as good as the Xeon or i5-4690k

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August 3, 2014 4:11:02 AM

Obviously, but not a worthwhile upgrade if he already has the 4440, IMO.
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August 3, 2014 4:11:55 AM

Sorry guys, the guy selling the R9 295X2 neglected to tell me the card is a reference reviewers version and comes with no warranty at all. Got it offered for £600, 1 month old, amazing price, but I don't have the financial situation to be risking that sort of cash £600 will pay for EVERYTHING else in my build, that's how I look at it.
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August 3, 2014 4:14:44 AM

TOo bad mate, Your should get a Gtx 780 Ti instead, Maybe an Evga models, They broke the world record on overclocking with one :) 
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August 3, 2014 4:18:05 AM

Littlesackninja said:
TOo bad mate, Your should get a Gtx 780 Ti instead, Maybe an Evga models, They broke the world record on overclocking with one :) 


I'm now looking at a 7990 I've been offered at a great price, if all this falls through I'll take my safeguard route and go for an R9 290 Sapphire Tri-X, so no sh*t cooling problems :p 

My original budget was for a GPU was £300, I'm willing to go over for a breakneck price but the GTX 780 Ti is just abit too much.
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August 3, 2014 4:28:52 AM

I would not recommend the 7990, They are not particulary fast cards compared to Gtx 780s or R9 290s, For 780s the best brand is Evga and for R9 290s Sapphire Tri-X Models are the best, Im getting one myself.
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August 3, 2014 4:29:21 AM

Dont forget to pick the most useful answer
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August 3, 2014 4:30:33 AM

Littlesackninja said:
For 780s the best brand is Evga and for R9 290s Sapphire Tri-X Models are the best


Where did you get that info from?
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August 3, 2014 4:35:29 AM

Benchmarks, And such. 3 Smaller fans is better than 2 Larger ones, The Tri-X Has some of the best cooling of all the R9 290's. Evga are nvidias top manufacturer, They have extremely high Quality products and are great at overclocking, Infact 2 guys recently broke the world recond and overclocked a 780 Ti to 2.0ghz on a Evga gtx 780Ti Kingpin
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August 3, 2014 6:58:46 AM

DubbleClick said:
Littlesackninja said:
For 780s the best brand is Evga and for R9 290s Sapphire Tri-X Models are the best


Where did you get that info from?


http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/63953-sapphire-r...

it's overclocked from factory compared to the reference card and it still has good temps.
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August 3, 2014 7:19:15 AM

EVGA isn't the only company selling factory oc'ed gpu's. Usually, on the same clock speeds, in one game or benchmark one is better than the other, whereas in another one an other gpu is better. But generally all under the doubt of measuring inaccuracy.
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