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August 3, 2014 5:15:16 AM

I want to build a reliable gaming and entertainment PC.
Most the time I play Dota2, watch movies, listening music.
My budget around $1000-1200. ( $1000 if possible).

Here is the Parts list I have found so far:

CPU

Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor
$229.98 OutletPC


Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler
$24.99 Newegg


Asus Z97-PRO(Wi-Fi ac) ATX LGA1150 Motherboard
$203.99
Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory
$79.99

Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive
$80.99

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive
$57.91

EVGA GeForce GTX 770 2GB Superclocked ACX Video Card
$329.99

NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case
$84.99
Power Supply
XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply
$74.99

Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer
$19.98 $19.98 OutletPC


Total: $1148.79

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/22k4YJ

any advice on my build ? (this is my 1st time to build so i don't know much about it)

Thanks!

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August 3, 2014 5:28:30 AM

Looks great, just know the games and tasks you mention wont even draw a single bead of sweat from this beast. its capabilities will be much greater for years to come.
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August 3, 2014 5:30:15 AM

that looks like a great build. Personally i prefer the case: fractal design arc midi r2 which is a similar price. I dont think you will need such a large power supply you would be fine with a 550w one. With the money you would dave you could buy a very nice 550w unit which could be fully modular and gold rated for instance the Thermaltake PS-TPD-0550MPCGUS-1
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August 3, 2014 5:35:24 AM

that motherboard looks too expensive, you could get away with something around $130
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August 3, 2014 5:37:30 AM

Zitrome said:
that looks like a great build. Personally i prefer the case: fractal design arc midi r2 which is a similar price. I dont think you will need such a large power supply you would be fine with a 550w one. With the money you would dave you could buy a very nice 550w unit which could be fully modular and gold rated for instance the Thermaltake PS-TPD-0550MPCGUS-1


it looks like he has plans to OC the processor, in which case the 600W/650W is probably a safe minimum. Plus the XFX unit will be undoubtedly better, its Seasonic built. Not saying Thermaltakes are bad, but Seasonic is almost NEVER a gamble.
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August 3, 2014 5:40:28 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($238.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-G45 Gaming ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($129.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($52.91 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($392.95 @ Amazon)
Case: Enermax ECA3253-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($29.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply: Antec High Current Gamer 620W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($83.98 @ OutletPC)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($14.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1154.28
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-03 08:38 EDT-0400

heres a build for the same price range with a better graphics card, more SSD storage and faster too.
modular PSU with good quality.
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August 3, 2014 5:43:57 AM

Great build. I would suggest staying with the PSU you have selected, it's a great PSU, made by seasonic. The thermaltake suggested above seems like a new unit, as I can't find any info on it, so I would personally stay away from it, until it gets thoroughly tested by different reviewers.

@SamiSC Your build is good, but I wouldn't have done it like that, as I'm sure the OP chose a motherboard with wireless AC because he needed it for example, and the case because he liked it.
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August 3, 2014 5:47:48 AM

Sorry i was looking for a good specced power supply with a cheaper price but for $10 more there are seasonic built power supplies that do the same. Also with 550w cheifxl has 100w spare power with whch to overclock with he really doesn't need more than that
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August 3, 2014 5:51:49 AM

Zitrome said:
Sorry i was looking for a good specced power supply with a cheaper price but for $10 more there are seasonic built power supplies that do the same. Also with 550w cheifxl has 100w spare power with whch to overclock with he really doesn't need more than that


Can you give me the link?
thanks
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August 3, 2014 5:52:10 AM

It is quite a bit more powerful than the gtx 770, but it does run hotter and draws more power as well.
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August 3, 2014 5:54:28 AM

you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.
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August 3, 2014 5:56:56 AM

Ytyoussef said:
Great build. I would suggest staying with the PSU you have selected, it's a great PSU, made by seasonic. The thermaltake suggested above seems like a new unit, as I can't find any info on it, so I would personally stay away from it, until it gets thoroughly tested by different reviewers.

@SamiSC Your build is good, but I wouldn't have done it like that, as I'm sure the OP chose a motherboard with wireless AC because he needed it for example, and the case because he liked it.


wireless adapters are dirt cheap these days, getting a mobo with one just makes it more expensive, but ya the case is a personal thing that can always be changed.
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August 3, 2014 5:57:03 AM

The actual efficiencies and architectures are different, obviously, but performance wise they will trade blows depending on the game. the 290 will usually have the edge. the extra 2 GB of Vram though on the 290 over the 770 will make a huge difference for newer games who often demand 2 or more GB of Vram, an indicator of future game being more demanding with textures etc and playing at higher resolutions. thats why the new maxwell GP (gtx 880) is rumored to have like 6 or 8GB of Vram...

Once everyone has a 1440p monitor then more Vram will become the standard with it, i say were on our way (leaving 1080p behind eventually)
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August 3, 2014 5:58:28 AM

Beezy said:
Looks great, just know the games and tasks you mention wont even draw a single bead of sweat from this beast. its capabilities will be much greater for years to come.


Zitrome said:
you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.


Which motherboard, and GPU has better quality?
I want get a good quality desktop so I wont easy to break.
(runs very hot has risk to failed ?)

thanks
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August 3, 2014 5:58:39 AM

Zitrome said:
you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.


if you get good air flow in the case, then the 290 wont run as hot, and for power, either way for overclocking and a single high end GPU, 600W+ should do the job.
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August 3, 2014 6:00:53 AM

even with an r9 290 in it a 550w should be fine because it gives you 100w spare
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August 3, 2014 6:02:18 AM

SamiSC said:
Zitrome said:
you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.


if you get good air flow in the case, then the 290 wont run as hot, and for power, either way for overclocking and a single high end GPU, 600W+ should do the job.


I agree if you get a good non-reference cooler and good case airflow the r9 290 shouldn't have any heat issues unless you are overclocking it.
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August 3, 2014 6:02:47 AM

cheifxl said:
Beezy said:
Looks great, just know the games and tasks you mention wont even draw a single bead of sweat from this beast. its capabilities will be much greater for years to come.


Zitrome said:
you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.


Which motherboard, and GPU has better quality?
I want get a good quality desktop so I wont easy to break.
(runs very hot has risk to failed ?)

thanks

If you want wireless ac, the cheapest usb 3.0 adapter is $30 and the cheapest pci adapter is about $50. And the motherboard you chose is a very high quality motherboard, but you could go with something cheaper. The asrock extreme4 is an option, msi gaming 5, asus z97-a and the list goes on.
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August 3, 2014 6:02:47 AM

Zitrome said:
even with an r9 290 in it a 550w should be fine because it gives you 100w spare


he will be overclocking so 600W+ to be safe
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August 3, 2014 6:04:23 AM

SamiSC said:
Ytyoussef said:
Great build. I would suggest staying with the PSU you have selected, it's a great PSU, made by seasonic. The thermaltake suggested above seems like a new unit, as I can't find any info on it, so I would personally stay away from it, until it gets thoroughly tested by different reviewers.

@SamiSC Your build is good, but I wouldn't have done it like that, as I'm sure the OP chose a motherboard with wireless AC because he needed it for example, and the case because he liked it.


wireless adapters are dirt cheap these days, getting a mobo with one just makes it more expensive, but ya the case is a personal thing that can always be changed.


Thanks for the advice, for the quality and reliable stands point which one is better overall MSI or Asus?
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August 3, 2014 6:04:34 AM

have you ever managed to use up 100w in an overclock?
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August 3, 2014 6:13:57 AM

Ytyoussef said:
cheifxl said:
Beezy said:
Looks great, just know the games and tasks you mention wont even draw a single bead of sweat from this beast. its capabilities will be much greater for years to come.


Zitrome said:
you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.


Which motherboard, and GPU has better quality?
I want get a good quality desktop so I wont easy to break.
(runs very hot has risk to failed ?)

thanks

If you want wireless ac, the cheapest usb 3.0 adapter is $30 and the cheapest pci adapter is about $50. And the motherboard you chose is a very high quality motherboard, but you could go with something cheaper. The asrock extreme4 is an option, msi gaming 5, asus z97-a and the list goes on.


Okay for PSU should I get 550W or 600W ?
I confused between gtx 770 and R9 290.
Can you also give me the link for the motherboard, wireless ac, pci adapter ?
Thanks.
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August 3, 2014 6:17:47 AM

Zitrome said:
SamiSC said:
Zitrome said:
you can pick up a wireless adapter for $5. the difference is the one is designed for gaming and will have better onboard audio and overclocking features. The r9 290 performes nearly as well as a gtx 780 so it is worth the extra money because it is much better than the gtx 770. However it uses more power and runs very, very hot.


if you get good air flow in the case, then the 290 wont run as hot, and for power, either way for overclocking and a single high end GPU, 600W+ should do the job.


I agree if you get a good non-reference cooler and good case airflow the r9 290 shouldn't have any heat issues unless you are overclocking it.


Does the case I chose has a good airflow to prevent the heat on r9 290 ?
what is the speed limit of the gpu, so it won't get too hot?
Thanks

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August 3, 2014 6:22:10 AM

honestly, if I were you I would choose your first choice of motherboard because it is a lot less hassle then having to buy a usb wifi adapter, but if you want it here are 2 links for USB 2 and 3 ones.:
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/trendnet-wireless-network... (USB 3)
https://pcpartpicker.com/part/edimax-wireless-network-c... (USB 2)
The r9 290 is better than the gtx 770 but runs a bit hotter and uses more power. I would choose the r9 290 unless heat is a massive concern due to climate or lack of fans ect.. also if you a crypto mining definitly go for thr r9 290. I think a 550w is fine because it gives you a spare 100w. but if a 600w is on deal then you might as well buy it because it gives you bit more room for many more SSD's and other fans. I wouldn't bother with PCI wireless adapters they take up too much space and the USB ones work fine.
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August 3, 2014 6:22:20 AM

The phantom 410 is a good case, it does have adequate cooling. http://www.anandtech.com/show/5157/nzxt-phantom-410-the...
@Zitrome You don't need wireless ac if you're using a usb 2 adapter, you'll be running at the port's limit, which will be bottlenecking the speeds you're getting.
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August 3, 2014 6:33:13 AM

Thank you all for the advices
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August 3, 2014 6:35:34 AM

You're welcome :) 
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August 3, 2014 6:43:26 AM

Zitrome said:
have you ever managed to use up 100w in an overclock?


no but power supplies dont like to run at 100% load, thats how they fail, get hot, and break in less time. Ideally the power supply runs, at full load, at something like 50-60% of the total wattage available. The headroom makes everyone happy.
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August 4, 2014 8:54:10 AM

If that is the case then he should be buying an. 800watt power supply that is just way to much. I was taught that 100w spare is plenty for over clocking and it will never reach the limit unless the system is expanded
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August 4, 2014 7:40:06 PM

Zitrome said:
If that is the case then he should be buying an. 800watt power supply that is just way to much. I was taught that 100w spare is plenty for over clocking and it will never reach the limit unless the system is expanded


i said ideal, realistically you try to get as close as you can to 50%. if money wasnt an issue wouldnt we all have 800W lol?....
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