Hadron air build -cooling options

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

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i7 4790k
HyperX 16GB 1600mhz
W7000 firepro
Z97i-plus
EVO 840 500GB
WD 4TB 7200RPM HDD
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Now I'm very eager to start purchasing parts, so I'm hoping I can get a lot of good help here:

COOLING! -What sort of cooling should I get for this build? I'm wondering what is the best cooling I can get which will fit in this build, and not cost an arm and a leg?

Absolutely fresh to this, so go easy on the abbreviations!

Thanks!

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

120MM fans will cost you little but improve cooling by a lot

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

What sort of fans? where will the fans attach to exactly? Any links appreciated!

Rammy · Aug 4, 2014

There's not a huge amount you can do with a Hadron Air, it comes with all the fans you'll need and as I understand it they are pretty solid. You can always upgrade them of course, or substitute them for more quiet versions, but there's not much more you can do for case cooling.

As for CPU coolers, you've picked a solid motherboard for the case which helps a lot. You are both height and depth limited though, which means you'll need a tower cooler using fans of between 90-93mm which should fall comfortably within the height limit. In a Hadron, unlike most cases, you'll be turning the cooler 90degrees so it pushes hot air up rather than at the rear of the case. This does mean that compatibility lists, while helpful, aren't 100% accurate.
Anything that fits entirely (or mainly) within the CPU socket area should be 100% fine. That's things like the Hyper 101, Hyper TX3, Xigmatek Gaia or EVGAs own ACX mITX cooler. There's loads of these but most are reasonably low end - good for smaller overclocks and stock, but probably not so great if you really want to push the i7.
Heatsinks which are larger are going to be harder to predict. On the Asus board the deciding factor will be whether or not it clips the daughterboard. If I had to guess, I'd say the Noctua NH-U9B would fit, but may require the removal of the rear fan (not the end of the world), but it's hard to be 100% sure. Similarly the Arctic Freezer 13 is among the biggest heatsinks you can fit in here and if I had to guess I'd say it'd sneak in but it's going to be tight.

If pushing the CPU is really the aim of the game then the Hadron is perhaps not the case for you as there are ITX cases which have far superior cooler/cooling potential. There aren't many which will do it in a size as compact or in the kind of form factor of the Hadron though, it's relatively unique due to the PSU.

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

I prefer led fans

But just type in on google led 120mm fans, and you should find some, there are 3 pin and 4 pin fans, you can use either, you plug them in to your motherboard or your psu

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

Rammy :

There's not a huge amount you can do with a Hadron Air, it comes with all the fans you'll need and as I understand it they are pretty solid. You can always upgrade them of course, or substitute them for more quiet versions, but there's not much more you can do for case cooling.

As for CPU coolers, you've picked a solid motherboard for the case which helps a lot. You are both height and depth limited though, which means you'll need a tower cooler using fans of between 90-93mm which should fall comfortably within the height limit. In a Hadron, unlike most cases, you'll be turning the cooler 90degrees so it pushes hot air up rather than at the rear of the case. This does mean that compatibility lists, while helpful, aren't 100% accurate.
Anything that fits entirely (or mainly) within the CPU socket area should be 100% fine. That's things like the Hyper 101, Hyper TX3, Xigmatek Gaia or EVGAs own ACX mITX cooler. There's loads of these but most are reasonably low end - good for smaller overclocks and stock, but probably not so great if you really want to push the i7.
Heatsinks which are larger are going to be harder to predict. On the Asus board the deciding factor will be whether or not it clips the daughterboard. If I had to guess, I'd say the Noctua NH-U9B would fit, but may require the removal of the rear fan (not the end of the world), but it's hard to be 100% sure. Similarly the Arctic Freezer 13 is among the biggest heatsinks you can fit in here and if I had to guess I'd say it'd sneak in but it's going to be tight.

If pushing the CPU is really the aim of the game then the Hadron is perhaps not the case for you as there are ITX cases which have far superior cooler/cooling potential. There aren't many which will do it in a size as compact or in the kind of form factor of the Hadron though, it's relatively unique due to the PSU.

Absolutely appreciate the reply. Got some work to do now, but I'll be back on later to look into all this.

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

legend001523 :

Yeah they certainly look great. I'm afraid of getting a bit fed up with them though. Normally like my electrical equipment to be discrete as possible, hence the reason I choose the Hadron air : )

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

01MB01 :

Oh there are some super silent fans out tehre, but no leds :/

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

legend001523 :

01MB01 :

Oh there are some super silent fans out tehre, but no leds :/

Okay.. interested. Any suggestions?

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

http://www.corsair.com/en-in/air-series-af120-quiet-edition-high-airflow-120mm-fan
These are quite nice, comes in different colours too

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

legend001523 :

Would this fit in my build? and where would it sit? Sorry, absolutely new to building a desktop.

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

well your case can only support 2 fans, so 2 of the 120mm versions will be okay and they both fit at the top

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

legend001523 :

Wondering how much of a difference they'll make..

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

01MB01 :

those fans are very good so should deliver lots of air to the case, and 2 fans are better than no fans

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

legend001523 :

01MB01 :

those fans are very good so should deliver lots of air to the case, and 2 fans are better than no fans

But these fans would replace the top fans right?

01MB01 · Aug 4, 2014

Rammy :

There's not a huge amount you can do with a Hadron Air, it comes with all the fans you'll need and as I understand it they are pretty solid. You can always upgrade them of course, or substitute them for more quiet versions, but there's not much more you can do for case cooling.

As for CPU coolers, you've picked a solid motherboard for the case which helps a lot. You are both height and depth limited though, which means you'll need a tower cooler using fans of between 90-93mm which should fall comfortably within the height limit. In a Hadron, unlike most cases, you'll be turning the cooler 90degrees so it pushes hot air up rather than at the rear of the case. This does mean that compatibility lists, while helpful, aren't 100% accurate.
Anything that fits entirely (or mainly) within the CPU socket area should be 100% fine. That's things like the Hyper 101, Hyper TX3, Xigmatek Gaia or EVGAs own ACX mITX cooler. There's loads of these but most are reasonably low end - good for smaller overclocks and stock, but probably not so great if you really want to push the i7.
Heatsinks which are larger are going to be harder to predict. On the Asus board the deciding factor will be whether or not it clips the daughterboard. If I had to guess, I'd say the Noctua NH-U9B would fit, but may require the removal of the rear fan (not the end of the world), but it's hard to be 100% sure. Similarly the Arctic Freezer 13 is among the biggest heatsinks you can fit in here and if I had to guess I'd say it'd sneak in but it's going to be tight.

If pushing the CPU is really the aim of the game then the Hadron is perhaps not the case for you as there are ITX cases which have far superior cooler/cooling potential. There aren't many which will do it in a size as compact or in the kind of form factor of the Hadron though, it's relatively unique due to the PSU.

I'm still a bit lost trying to understand this aspect to building. If it helps I'm not going to overclock, but would still like a good cooler in there. Wondering which type to go with still, also where it will sit within the case. Would the Noctua NH-U9B alone do the trick?

Pretty late at the moment, I'll read your post again later and maybe it will be clearer to me : )

legend001523 · Aug 4, 2014

01MB01 :

legend001523 :

But these fans would replace the top fans right?

yeah, but if you're happy with the current cooling, there should be no reason to get new fans, unless you aren't then the new fans should improve it a bit

Rammy · Aug 5, 2014

01MB01 :

Yeah it's a bit complicated. It's an often-overlooked area of building small PCs as with ATX towers it's mainly just checking the height clearance for coolers and picking something shorter than that.
At ITX level, CPU socket position is not standardised, so motherboard manufacturers move stuff around to fit things in as best they can. Compare for example the ASRock Z87E-ITX and the Gigabyte Z87N-Wifi, and you can see how hard it can be to guess if things will fit. Add to that the fact that ITX cases vary dramatically in terms of how things interfere with the clearances and in the case of the Hadron, that you have to rotate the cooler 90degrees, and it becomes increasingly tricky. My standard advice is to try to google your combo of cooler+motherboard+case (or at least which coolers people with your case+motherboard use) but it's often very hard to get a match.

@ Your build. If you aren't overclocking then spending money on a K-series i7 and a Z-series motherboard is pretty questionable, as both are almost exclusively for overclocking.

To answer your question, I'm relatively confident that the NH-U9B will work with the Z97i-plus and Hadron Air, though I think you'll have to either remove the second fan (on the cooler) entirely as it'll clip. If you aren't overclocking, then one of the cheaper options I mentioned previously is likely to be an easier and cheaper solution.

01MB01 · Aug 16, 2014

Rammy :

Can we look more into this? I'm really considering the ugly Noctua NH-U9B. Have you seen anyone else do this? It would be nice if I didn't have to modify my case to make it fit.

These are the parts I'm in the processes of buying/waiting for:

i7 4790k
W7000
Hyperx 1600 16gb
evo 500gb
WD 4tb hdd
Z97i-plus

legend001523 · Aug 16, 2014

You can get the nh 12s from noctua which is a low prfile one?

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