Upgraded PC will look like this. Whats your opinion? Should it be ok? All compatible and at least close to optimal?

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http://pcpartpicker.com/p/GCZ4YJ

Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor (new)

Gigabyte GA-Z97M-D3H Micro ATX LGA1150 Motherboard (new)

Kingston 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (new)

Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive (new)

Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive

Gigabyte GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2GB Video Card

Corsair Professional 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply

I'm only substituting / adding those parts I maked with (new). They will substitute:
i5-2500 (non-k)
p8h61-m motherboard
kingston 8gb (4gb 2x) DDR3-1033
the rest is about 2 and 1/2 years old.


Do you think its good? I already squeezed everything my budget could handle. I dont plan on OC right now, but somehow the "k" version of i5-4670 is cheaper here than the non "k" hehe. Therefore I decided to go with a Z mobo and I decided for the Z97 chipset because of future compatibility. And because I might try OC in the future. I'm just not sure if this mobo can handle it. Maybe just a very mild oc to 4ghz? I guess the standard OC that comes with Turbo Boost already ups it to 3.8, but why not, right? Anyway, the price for the GA-Z97M-D3H is the same of GA-Z87M-D3H and every other Z series are way over my budget. I'm also upgrading because my RAM are too outdated. Do you think that there'll be any compatibility issue with those components?

By the way, I'm upgrading it basically for gaming and beacuse I will probably use it for video and image editing in the future. Maybe some graphic design and programming (but that doesnt require too advanced hardware, so...) .

Thanks a lot in advance!
 
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A 144Hz monitor isn't completely necessary... Human eye can't tell the difference between 60Hz and 144Hz. If you plan on OC'ing in the future, you should consider an aftermarket CPU cooler. The CM Hyper 212 EVO is the best budget cooler. Otherwise the Noctua NH-D14 is very good for extreme OC'ing. Otherwise it's a solid build!
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yeah, I know, but I already have the 660, and I would like to keep things a little bit more "balanced", you know? I dont have the budget to add the CPU and mobo + new GPU, so I guess I'll wait untill next year or so to buy a new GPU. I'm afraid that my current i5-2500 and 1033 RAM will bottleneck a top-end GPU (at least one that's worth upgrading to for the price tag)

 
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A 144Hz monitor isn't completely necessary... Human eye can't tell the difference between 60Hz and 144Hz. If you plan on OC'ing in the future, you should consider an aftermarket CPU cooler. The CM Hyper 212 EVO is the best budget cooler. Otherwise the Noctua NH-D14 is very good for extreme OC'ing. Otherwise it's a solid build!
 
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Except you would have to be getting at least 144 fps in a game to fully utilize a 144Hz monitor. And also you can't tell the difference between the 2ms on most 144Hz monitors and 8ms on most 60Hz monitors. Human blink is over 300ms to give a comparison. The only noticeable difference between 60Hz and 120Hz is mouse smoothness. Even on 60" TVs I don't see any ghosting. The whole 60Hz vs 120Hz vs 144Hz and up debate is half fact and half opinion really.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBgFampjkPs
You only notice the difference when it's slowed down 32x and that's only 24 fps.
 
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You can't do 3D .... I hate 3D movies and got motion sickness 1st time I played Batman in 3D ... tried it again and had a ball.

You can't do Lightboost ...
http://www.blurbusters.com/faq/60vs120vsLB/

You can't do G-Sync
Lightboost but betetr

You can't avoid this:

http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/dell_u2414h.htm

60 hz - Dell U2414H
dell_u2414h.jpg


144 hz - Asus VG278HE
asus_vg278he.jpg


If the images disappear (as they often do here on THG) look at the long and scroll down to after this line

"All in all the Dell U2414H held its own against some of these fast IPS/PLS models."

TVs don't hold a candle and are in no way comparable to PC monitors.

Just did a Yahoo search on "144Hz Night and day" .... see what peeps say who made the switch.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=144hz+night+and+day&ei=UTF-8&fr=moz35
 
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1. Under store lighting it's very difficult to see anything. Unfortunately, that's the way manufacturer's tune their units. I am shocked at how so many people will spend days researching what monitor they are going to buy and then don't have it color calibrated.

2. Ya generally don't get to experiment w/ 3D or Lightboost at the store.
 
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I would like to find a review or a good comparison between this motherboard and some other ones with z97 chipset.. that's the only component that actually bothers me a little, because I can't afford anything better at the moment I guess.

I saw some good comments about GA-Z97X-Gaming 3 and GA-Z97X-SLI and GA-Z97-D3H... not sure if there's much of a difference between those. The things I am most worried about are Oc pottential (for far away future) and future upgrades. I guess the one I picked could handle SLI too, so I dkn.
 
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I'm probably gonna buy this one!
(sorry for the site in portuguese, but I guess you can see the name with no probl.)
https://www.balaodainformatica.com.br/produto/60493

I guess it should fit on the motherboard with enough room for the RAM sticks (witch will actually be Kingston HyperX BEAST KHX16C9T3K2/8X) that are a bit taller... Maybe I should opt for the Fury version?
I know that doesnt make sense but the BEAST version are cheper than the Fury version over here
 
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Here's a link to the Thermaltake's website
http://br.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_00002028

and here's a reveiw..
http://www.thinkcomputers.org/thermaltake-nic-c4-cpu-cooler-review/
it seems to be very nice model... probably not the best I could get, but at least it could get me decent temps..

My only worry is if it will fit on the motherboard + tall memory.. I cant seem to find anything specifics about the spacing from the RAM slots and CPU for this motherboard.. I know that the manufacturer tells that it is specifically designed to not interfere with the memory spacing, but since the MOBO is M-ATX, I think that there might be a chance of overlaping. I know the heatsink is 50mm wide.

I know that it is probably ok, and that if the manufactor says it'll fit, it probably will and I'm being over conservative, but not being able to know FOR SURE if it'll fit kills me =(
 
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Well, what I mean is I haven't seen it reviewed on a reputable site where it is compared under identical conditions against a slew of other coolers..... that review offers no means of comparison.

Since it's just a single stack, I don't see how it could compete with two stack coolers

Since you haven't bought anything, what's the attraction to tall RAM with toothy heat sinks ? Why not use low profile memory and not worry about it ? The only function of the tall RAM heat sinks is to "look cool".

Here the Thermaltake cooler sits 12C hotter than the DH14 ....the Hyper 212 generally runs 10C hotter so I'd lean Hyper 212 .... but that test was on a 2600k so it has a different heat signature. The Phanteks tops the DH-14 on haswell so you can expect differences because the heat signature can work to one coolers favor over another.
http://www.overclockersclub.com/reviews/thermaltake_nic_f4/4.htm
 
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hmmm I see.. good point! Not that I have any attraction to tall RAM, its just that I really dont understand a lot about overclock and I was thinking that to OC the CPU I also had to OC the RAM and this toothy model can oc (not sure if the other one can as well).. but I'm not even sure.. do I need to oc the RAM at all? Does that make any difference? The price differece from kingston Beast and the Fury model is like 50 cents, so it really doesnt matter and I figured that for 50 cents I would get a "better" Ram, thats all hehe...

So anyway, kingston Fury should fit, no matter the cooler, right? and I guess the size of the Cooler is never gonna cover the PCI express slot right? Or interfere with the GPU? It would be really stupid of Gigabyte if it did...

http://www.kingston.com/br/hyperx/memory/fury

Thanks for the replies and patience, man, I really apreciate the help!
 
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The tall stuff OCs as well as the short.... you will find that nothing ever goes away on the internet..... so 9 years from now some 28 year old will be echoing a post he read about DDR2 needing good cooling 5 years ago when he was 14 and telling peeps that DDR14 needs big heat sinks :) ....

You OC RAM very simply.... for into BIOS, select XMP profile and ya done. The short stuff is usually more expensive as it's in higher demand.
 
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