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here it my build

CPU: i7 4770k or 4820k or 4790k

CPU Cooler: i dont know if i buy the box version of the cpu it will be better or buy the tray and buy a coller Please explain the difference, and if it changes the Computer Noise

Motherboard: msi z97 gaming atx (LGA1150) or asus z97-a(LGA1150)
what the better for gaming . i hear that in motherborad asus is better but i dont know about gaming

Memory: Kingston HyperX Fury 2x8GB DDR3 1600MHz or Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x8GB DDR3 1600MHz
i understand that corsair it better but i didnt understand what the difference between the 1600 to 1866 or to 2133 (and if it change the speed) and how i know if my motherbord Support them

Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X TOXIC 3GB GDDR5 or msi radeon r9 280x 6gb twin frozr
what better for gaming and Quiet

Storage: don't think it important (Western Digital Caviar Green WD20EZRX 2TB Sata III)

Storage ssd: do you think i need to buy ssd i dont understand what i put on my ssd the windows or games that it make my pc work faster


Case: cooler master k550 window mid tower atx
if you have more coll case in this price tell me `)

Power Supply: CoolerMaster 550W RS550-PCARN1-EU or SeaSonic 520W 80+ Bronze M12II-520 or anything else i don't really understand in sp but i nedd 450+w

Optical Drive: don't think it important (Asus DRW-24D3ST DVD±RW x24 Black Sata)


Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quick Fire Pro

i made it on my from reading Please see if good things for gamers And if you think that things improve for the same price I would be happy to hear
and pleses tell me if there is problem in this build


thank you very much :)
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  1. Could you tell me your budget? Do you live in usa? Do you need monitor or windows?
  2. Where are you located and what is your budget?

    From your options I would choose the Asus Z97, Corsair Vengeance Pro, MSI 280, Seagate drive (green is for low power and blue is slightly more expensive than the Seagate barracuda and slightly slower), probably don't need SSD, Corsair 200R or 300R if on tight budget Phanteks Enthoo Pro if you can afford it, XFX PSU (probably cheaper than the seasonic and the corsiar CX is rubbish), the cheapest optical drive and thats a great KB.
  3. no need monitor or windows
    I live in Asia and that's why I did not write the budget but that is about 1100 dollars in my country the 1100 dollars are actually 1350 that why i didnt wirte it.
    and Please answer me this questions it would really help
  4. Hey, just a question, are you from PH?
  5. no what that mean any way
  6. okay
    cpu:15 4690k
    motherboard: Msi gaming 5
    ram: 2x4gb corsair vengeance 1600mhz
    video card : r9 290
    storage:seagate barracuda 1tb
    ssd: samsung evo 128gb
    case: corsair 450D
    psu: evga supernova 600W

    Cheaper and your build and also better
  7. CPU: Go for the i7-4790k version, your motherboard supports it. You might consider getting an i5-4690k, its powerful and enough for gaming unless your doing some video editing and 3d works.
    CPU Cooler: Get a CM Hyper 212 EVO, it is simply the best.
    Mobo: Get a z97 board, the other factors are color scheme and your preferred brand.
    RAM: Either of the two. They are both great rams from great manufacturer, so no problem here. Consider your color scheme. Yes, z boards support high clock speeds of ram, up to 3300mhz.
    HDD: Green is optimized for silence and low power consumption, in return you'll have less performance, a Black would be better, more noise however.
    SSD: Want to boot in less 10secs? Want to load games faster? Get an SSD, a Samsung 840 EVO is enough, 120gb - 250gb
    GPU: Again, color scheme and preference, dont forget the performance.
    Case: Corsair 200R or 300R, both are good cases. NZXT H440 if you want to look better.
    PSU: Atleast 650w, Corsair RM650, Seasonic Xseries 650w and the like. Dont forget the brand name, you dont want to skimp on this part. Get 850 watts if doing hard OC and want to xfire in the future.
    ODD: As long as it spins.
    Keyboard: A good gaming keyboard will give you good experience. Corsair Vengeance Keyboards are great, Logitech and Razer ofcourse.

    Something like this.
    Intel Core i5-4690k
    MSI Z97 Gaming
    Corsair Vengeance Pro 1600Mhz 2x4Gb
    WD Caviar Black 1-2Tb
    MSI R9 280x Twin Frozr
    Corsair 300R
    Corsair RM 650
    Any optical drive.

    Corsair Vengeance Gaming Keyboard and Mice.

    Hope this helps :)
  8. Best answer
    I'm from PH, so I can give you exact parts and the link to the seller. However you're not.
  9. i5 4690k and 8 gb ram did the r9 290 realy worth it dont forget i wrote better parts except it and tou still dint exsplain me for what the ssd
    and please more Suggestions
  10. yanivtawily said:
    i5 4690k and 8 gb ram did the r9 290 realy worth it dont forget i wrote better parts except it and tou still dint exsplain me for what the ssd
    and please more Suggestions


    yes, because for games you won't see a difference with a i7, it's better to get a i5 and spend the money you saved on a better graphics card, because the card I suggested will get you 10-20fps more on games than the one you wanted before. you need a ssd for your operting system and some of your games, so when you turn your pc on it loads up faster and on games the games will load up faster than if you put them in a hdd
  11. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Ng9jBm
    A bit over budget, powerful. You can downgrade the gpu to get a better psu.

    Hope this helps :)
  12. yanivtawily said:


    No, the asus z97-k is a great z97 board and unless you want to go for a red motherboard then the asus motherboard will do fine
  13. CPU:Intel Core i5 4690 3.5Ghz 6MB L3 Cache s1150
    CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 EVO
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-K LGA1150
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Kit CMY8GX3M2A1600C9 (Silver)‎
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E‎
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1003FZEX 1TB Sata III‎
    Storage ssd: Samsung 840 EVO Series MZ-MTE120BW 120GB SSD mSATA III‎
    Case: Corsair Carbide 300R Windowed Compact PC No PSU‎
    Power Supply:Seasonic 650W Active PFC Modular 80+ Gold X-650 PSU‎
    Optical Drive:Samsung SH-224DB/BSBS DVD±RW x24 Black Sata‎
    Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quick Fire Pro

    almost finish what you says about that guys?
  14. yanivtawily said:
    CPU:Intel Core i5 4690 3.5Ghz 6MB L3 Cache s1150
    CPU Cooler: CM Hyper 212 EVO
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-K LGA1150
    Memory: Corsair Vengeance Pro 2x4GB DDR3 1600MHz CL9 Kit CMY8GX3M2A1600C9 (Silver)‎
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E‎
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black WD1003FZEX 1TB Sata III‎
    Storage ssd: Samsung 840 EVO Series MZ-MTE120BW 120GB SSD mSATA III‎
    Case: Corsair Carbide 300R Windowed Compact PC No PSU‎
    Power Supply:Seasonic 650W Active PFC Modular 80+ Gold X-650 PSU‎
    Optical Drive:Samsung SH-224DB/BSBS DVD±RW x24 Black Sata‎
    Keyboard: Cooler Master Storm Quick Fire Pro

    almost finish what you says about that guys?


    Nice build. I forgot to mention earlier that the CM Hyper 212 EVO won't fit in the CM K550 case so it's good that you changed it.
  15. Get the k version of i5 or get an h97 board. You dont want to pair a locked processor on a z board, or unlocked processor on a non OCing board.

    Hope this helps :)
  16. so i change to 4690k
    and i have more 2 question
    1. i think about to improve from 8gb ram to 16 What do you say about it did it worth ?
    2.i see that the Asus Z97-K LGA1150 it almoust the same priceas the msi h97 gamin 3 the asus is better i i still don't really understand the differences between the motherboard
  17. yanivtawily said:
    so i change to 4690k
    and i have more 2 question
    1. i think about to improve from 8gb ram to 16 What do you say about it did it worth ?
    2.i see that the Asus Z97-K LGA1150 it almoust the same priceas the msi h97 gamin 3 the asus is better i i still don't really understand the differences between the motherboard


    No, 8gb is fine for gaming
    and a asus z97 k will be fine for oyu, the asus boards just havebetter build quality imo and produce some of the best z97 boards out there,, stick with the z97 k :)
  18. and about the memory ram if i buy 4x2 or 8x2 what to buy .have a few MHZ 1600/1333/2133/1866
    as i understand the Corsair Vengeance Pro it the best but what mhz i need? (and it will change the speed of the ram ?)
    and you sure it dont change 8/16gb ram cause i see in a few games that it recomeant
    and by the way the keyboard i select Cooler Master Storm Quick Fire Pro it good? i need Mechanical keyboard for gaming i still dont sure if i take the blue or the red
  19. yanivtawily said:
    and about the memory ram if i buy 4x2 or 8x2 what to buy .have a few MHZ 1600/1333/2133/1866
    as i understand the Corsair Vengeance Pro it the best but what mhz i need? (and it will change the speed of the ram ?)
    and you sure it dont change 8/16gb ram cause i see in a few games that it recomeant
    and by the way the keyboard i select Cooler Master Storm Quick Fire Pro it good? i need Mechanical keyboard for gaming i still dont sure if i take the blue or the red


    2x4 is better, and it's not the best ram, but you won't notice a difference, just get any 2x4gb in 1600mhz and you'll be fine faster speeds don't help in games really, I haven't tried that eyboard but the razer keyboards are nice, I have one myself :)
  20. memory helps in internet surfing cause I'm used to open about 20 windows at the same time if i buy 16gb it make it better then the 8 ?
    and you have Mechanical keyborad of razor to show me (and ty very much!!)
  21. yanivtawily said:
    memory helps in internet surfing cause I'm used to open about 20 windows at the same time if i buy 16gb it make it better then the 8 ?
    and you have Mechanical keyborad of razor to show me (and ty very much!!)


    I have a laptop with 6gb of ram and I've had like 2 windows full of tabs, it doesn't help with more ram, honestly, and try the deathstalker? or blackwidow
  22. i dont understand what the different between the two (there is more 20$ in the +m)
    Samsung 840 EVO Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB SSD SATA III
    Samsung 840 EVO Series MZ-MTE120BW 120GB SSD mSATA III
    and this is a good 290 card ?(MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E‎)
    and this is "CM Hyper 212 EVO" a good cooler what with a cooler like that it better? "CoolerMaster Seidon 120V CPU"
    and sory on the bagging
  23. yanivtawily said:
    i dont understand what the different between the two (there is more 20$ in the +m)
    Samsung 840 EVO Series MZ-7TE120BW 120GB SSD SATA III
    Samsung 840 EVO Series MZ-MTE120BW 120GB SSD mSATA III
    and this is a good 290 card ?(MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E‎)
    and this is "CM Hyper 212 EVO" a good cooler what with a cooler like that it better? "CoolerMaster Seidon 120V CPU"
    and sory on the bagging


    Nothing noticeable, both are great, go for the cheaper one, and yes, it's a good one, not the best, but good :p for the best cpu cooler, the noctua dh 14
  24. i dont understand what better the noctua dh 14 or the CM Hyper 212 EVO
    and more things you can fid me fan in here cause is the store i want to buy (it doest meter if it write out od stock)
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?select=.1066..182.&list=3&sort=2&glist=0&uin=0&txt_search=&buy=&minprice=0&maxprice=0&store=ksprishonlezion
  25. yanivtawily said:
    i dont understand what better the noctua dh 14 or the CM Hyper 212 EVO
    and more things you can fid me fan in here cause is the store i want to buy (it doest meter if it write out od stock)
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?select=.1066..182.&list=3&sort=2&glist=0&uin=0&txt_search=&buy=&minprice=0&maxprice=0&store=ksprishonlezion


    The noctua is the best cpu cooler you can get. it's like 300% better than the evo
  26. you sure it dh i find NOCTUA NHD14
  27. yanivtawily said:
    you sure it dh i find NOCTUA NHD14


    huh? but it's the best air cpu cooler
  28. i think i find it but i dont sure what the different between the two can you have a look
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=14222&store=ksprishonlezion
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=10604&store=ksprishonlezion
  29. yanivtawily said:
    i think i find it but i dont sure what the different between the two can you have a look
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=14222&store=ksprishonlezion
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=10604&store=ksprishonlezion


    On has pwm control one doesn't i think
  30. all the noctua
    Noctua NH-U9B SE2 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-L9i CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-L9a CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-C12P SE14 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-L12 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-U12S CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-U14S CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler
    up low
    down high
  31. yanivtawily said:
    all the noctua
    Noctua NH-U9B SE2 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-L9i CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-L9a CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-U12P SE2 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-C12P SE14 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-L12 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-U12S CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-U14S CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-C14 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-D14 SE2011 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-D14 CPU Cooler
    Noctua NH-D15 CPU Cooler


    oh wait, the dh 15 is out, forgot, the noctua dh 15 is the best :)
  32. http://i57.tinypic.com/8y5j0k.jpg
    what you say about it?
    something to improve
    and more one things what you say about this two mouse they in the same price
    Razer DeathAdder 2013 6400DPI or Razer Naga Hex Green 5600dpi Precision 3.5G Laser Mouse
    i dont realy understande more pf dpi it mean it better? and my first priority it for shooting games
  33. yanivtawily said:
    http://i57.tinypic.com/8y5j0k.jpg
    what you say about it?
    something to improve
    and more one things what you say about this two mouse they in the same price
    Razer DeathAdder 2013 6400DPI or Razer Naga Hex Green 5600dpi Precision 3.5G Laser Mouse
    i dont realy understande more pf dpi it mean it better? and my first priority it for shooting games


    I have the deathadder 2013 edition and it's great, I'd recommend you get that for fps games, and dpi is how fast the mouse moves on the screen, the igher the dpi, the faster it moves in your pc
  34. so i take the 2013 more fewst hings i hear that i better to buy pad with it so that ok what i take ?
    (Roccat Siru Desk Fitting Gaming Mousepad - Cryptic Blue‎)
    i have this two optical drive in the same price what better
    (Samsung SH-224DB/BSBS DVD±RW x24 Black Sata‎)
    (Samsung Internal SN-208FB/BEBE DVD±RW x8 Black Sata)
    and more one things about the windows what the best for gaming i think about the new 8.1 64 bit what you say about it?
  35. yanivtawily said:
    so i take the 2013 more fewst hings i hear that i better to buy pad with it so that ok what i take ?
    (Roccat Siru Desk Fitting Gaming Mousepad - Cryptic Blue‎)
    i have this two optical drive in the same price what better
    (Samsung SH-224DB/BSBS DVD±RW x24 Black Sata‎)
    (Samsung Internal SN-208FB/BEBE DVD±RW x8 Black Sata)
    and more one things about the windows what the best for gaming i think about the new 8.1 64 bit what you say about it?



    I have the razer goliathus control edition, it comes in small, medium and large, i have the medium one and I prefer windows 7, it's personal preference really :)
  36. ok i take them from ebay
    but what about the optical driver what better?
  37. yanivtawily said:
    ok i take them from ebay
    but what about the optical driver what better?


    Any optical drive is good, just get the cheapest one, it's not that important really
  38. they in the same price
    Samsung SH-224DB/BSBS DVD±RW x24 Black Sata‎)
    (Samsung Internal SN-208FB/BEBE DVD±RW x8 Black Sata)
  39. yanivtawily said:
    they in the same price
    Samsung SH-224DB/BSBS DVD±RW x24 Black Sata‎)
    (Samsung Internal SN-208FB/BEBE DVD±RW x8 Black Sata)


    any one of them is fine, just pick one :p your choice
  40. the MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB GDDR5 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E‎ card in what lvl for the gtx is like cause i see gtx 770 in like the same price and there is that even cheaper
    this is even cheaper MSI GTX770 Gaming 2GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E
    this in the same price Gigabyte GTX770 OC 4GB GDDR5 DX11 2xDVI HDMI DP PCI-E

    and i dont realy care about the different between the cash i just Ask what will work better the gtx or the r9
  41. R9 290 is gtx 780 level
  42. more few questions:
    1. maybe take the 290x this version good ? (http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=20916&store=ksprishonlezion)
    2. what that mean ?(x HDMI (with 3D)) it in 3d?
    3. if i connect the card to dvi monitor with cable of one side hdmi and one side dvi it give a good resolution?
    4. i want to buy this monitor, it is a good one ?(http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=23361&store=ksprishonlezion)
    5. this is a good speakers ? (http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=12984&store=ksprishonlezion)
    i very sorry on bagging i just want it to be perfect
    thanks you on every thing realy it very help me :)
  43. Don't get that model, uses ref cooler so very loud and high temps, go for sapphire tri x, it means it supports 3d and no, resolution depends on your monitor and the monitor is fine
  44. but this monitor supports 3d ? it hdmi but i dont see 3d
    and i want to buy this Headset it good ? (http://en.ksp.co.il/?uin=15281&store=ksprishonlezion)
  45. Not alot of games support 3d so no need for a 3d monitor, and no, your monitor is not 3d, and I don't know
  46. what up? i think i buy this week the computer i want to ask you more last questions :
    about the mointor i buy my first before 3 years (http://www.lg.com/uk/monitors/lg-W2271TC-lcd-monitor) and now i want to buy new one
    this monitor that i want (http://www.philips.com.au/c/pc-monitor/lcd-monitor-with-smartcontrol-lite-246v5lhab_75/prd/?t=specifications)
    but he have ( SmartContrast: 10,000,000:1 Contrast ratio (typical): 1000:1)
    my oldest monitor have a 20000:1
    so how much the different
    and i have more monitor in almost the same price (http://www.samsung.com/levant/consumer/computers-peripherals/monitors/led-monitor/LS24C750PS/ZN) what better?
    and more one question i want to buy the tri-x oc 290x but it wirte i need 750 PS(http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/product_index.aspx?pid=2090&lid=1#)
    so if i take 750 in power supply i have few so what will work the best and Quiet
    http://en.ksp.co.il/?select=.1108..140..142..558.&list=1&sort=2&glist=0&uin=0&txt_search=&buy=&minprice=0&maxprice=0
    ty very much
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