External HD with irreplaceable urgent work data shows files/folders but all are now empty

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First of all, I have a desktop PC running Windows 7 Professional SP1 64-bit.

Second of all, I apologize for the length of this post but I wanted to include all relevant information and history of the drive in case some piece of that info happened to be key in solving this issue.

Now for the details of what’s going on. I have a 3TB Seagate external hard drive that, up until about 2 weeks ago, I’d been using solely as a backup. I have another backup hard drive as well but it contains older files and is kept off-site. I’m a professional filmmaker and film editor and have a massive amount of raw footage as well as various edits of files which take up an incredible amount of space and, unfortunately, about 2 weeks ago I ran out of space on all of my internal and external hard drives and, at the time, didn’t have the time or money to go out and buy more HDs (online backup is also not an option given the incredibly slow internet speeds where I live vs. the terabytes of data I have stored across numerous drives) so I just started moving my most recent work (around 60GB worth) onto the 3TB backup drive as a temporary measure for storage since I had no other drive with enough space available. I’ve been using this drive since December of 2012 (for backup) with zero issues; it has remained plugged in and turned on since that time. For further info, the drive in question is a Seagate Expansion 3TB Desktop External Hard Drive USB 3.0 (STBV3000100).

Then, about 6 days ago, I needed to make room on another hard drive and again, the only drive with adequate space was my 3TB backup drive, so right before going to bed I moved a folder containing 90GB of files from one of my internal drives to the 3TB backup, figuring it would be done transferring by the time I woke up the next morning. I woke up the next morning to find that, 7 hours later, the transfer was still in exactly the same position that it had been the night before – and that, in fact, nothing had been transferred at all. It kept giving me the flashing bar telling me it was about to transfer but no data had actually been moved. I wrote it off as some random glitch as I had to rush out that morning anyway so I cancelled the transfer, shut the computer off, and didn’t think much of it.

About 2 days later (4 days ago), I noticed that the 3TB Seagate no longer showed up on my list of drives when I booted up. I tried unplugging the 3TB backup drive from the computer, restarting with it unplugged and then turning the computer back on and plugging it back into the USB port once the computer was on and it made the standard “drive recognition” noise upon being plugged in to notify that it had been recognized, then came up with the typical window telling me it was scanning it for files like it does whenever I plug an external HD in, and once the blue scanning bar had finished I chose the option to “Open folder to view files using Windows Explorer” and after doing so just got a totally white empty window…no name at the top, nothing, just a completely blank white box that was supposed to be my drive opened in Windows Explorer. I waited for a while for it to load but still nothing. I tried clicking out of the box which prompted a (Not Responding) message at the top of the white box. I tried ctrl + alt + delete but nothing happened. I eventually had to manually power down the computer as the entire PC had frozen and no action had any response whatsoever.

When I powered up the computer again it gave me the usual “system did not shut down properly” screen and I was prompted to boot in Safe Mode. I did this, then restarted, only to have it freeze on the log in screen, prompting yet another manual shut down (and another warning that the system had not been shut down properly.) I can’t remember what the term was that it gave me the second time, but instead of being prompted to either start Windows in Safe Mode or start Windows normally it prompted me to do a “diagnostic test” or something along those lines to determine what was going on. I did this, it ran a test, and came back saying that it could not determine what the issue was. I remember it said something like “if you have plugged in any cameras or other portable media into your computer recently, unplug them and try again.”

I shut down the computer entirely, unplugged the 3TB Seagate Backup, powered on the computer again (it booted up normally) and once it had booted I plugged the 3TB Seagate in once again, this time using a different USB port. Again, it recognized the drive, came up with the scanning drive for files window, but instead of opening it in Explorer I went to Computer to check on it – it was listed there with the same drive letter and the drive name, but instead of having the colored bar underneath it indicating how much space was available (i.e. “46GB Free of 465GB” etc) there was no bar or information whatsoever, which I have never seen before. I took this to be a bad sign, shut the computer off once more, unplugged every external drive, then plugged in only the 3TB external (while the computer was off) and booted up the computer. This time when I went to “Computer” the 3TB Seagate was listed and had the typical blue bar underneath it indicating how much space was used and how much was available, and it was the correct amount of used space. Not only that, when I double clicked it, it actually opened and showed me all the files and folders on the drive instead of freezing and giving me a white window that crashed my computer like before. The problem came when I tried to access any file or folder…it would take a ridiculously long time to load a folder of even 20 images, and though the image files inside the folder were all listed there, no thumbnail previews ever came up and when I tried to double click an image to open it in preview it wouldn’t work and couldn’t show me the image.

Keep in mind that I have roughly 60-80GB of recent material located ONLY on this one drive that is absolutely essential to my work which I have not had a chance to back up anywhere else. At this point I bought four external hard drives (two 3TB External HDs and two 2TB portable HDs) which I should have done a long time ago as I began to run out of space (I also should have had a backup of this backup) but at least now I have those on hand for backup and more storage but the problem is that I can’t get anything on my original 3TB Seagate external HD to work.

First it showed all my files as being there, inside the folders etc, but now it’s doing something else entirely. I rebooted yet again, opened up the 3TB Seagate, it showed all my folders and the files in the drive, but when I opened up any folder it would say the folder was empty. This is something I know not to be true, as those folders contained hundreds of gigabytes worth of data previously, now it just says every folder is empty. Furthermore, it still lists the files in the root directory of the hard drive (G:/) but for example, when I right click and select Properties on a video file I know to be 13GB in size, it’s now listed as being 28.7KB in size instead. Meanwhile, when the drive is viewed in the Computer folder, it still shows the exact same amount of space used…1.13TB free of 2.72TB. Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/FjPqIsZ.png

So, basically I don’t know what to make of all this. Obviously I’m gravely concerned for the 60+ GB of files I need for my work that I recently moved to this drive and exist on this drive ONLY, either in the root directory (but unopenable and listed as only being a few KB in size for some reason) or inside the folders on this drive which Windows Explorer claims are all completely empty. I found a screenshot of the Computer folder from about a week ago (before I had any problems with this drive) that showed it still had the same amount of space used/available (1.13TB free of 2.72TB) which is what it is still saying, but I have no idea how to access or recover anything from this hard drive or what to make of any of what’s happened with it so far.

I would take it to a specialist and gladly pay them to fix it but live in a rural area and am currently without a car for at least another week and the closest PC repair shop that I trust is an hour and 25 minutes away. In the meantime, I *really* need the recent ~60+GB of data that is only on that drive and would like to back up the entire contents of the drive onto another drive (or several) as well to be safe. According to the program CrystalDiskMark the drive is 58% full with 1631GB of data on it - screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/PYldu87.png - but when viewing the drive in Windows Explorer it’s as if the entire drive is empty, and the few files displayed in the root directory are mere kilobytes when they were previously gigabytes in size. I’m afraid to do anything (including restarting the computer or even opening the drive in Windows Explorer again etc) for fear of messing it up even further and potentially losing the data on there forever, if it hasn’t already been permanently lost, which is why I’m posting here for a professional opinion from someone more knowledgeable than I on what to do next.

So, given all of this;

    1. What can I do? How can I recover and/or backup the data on that drive? I have 4 brand new external hard drives available with adequate space on-hand now but Windows Explorer shows my 3TB Backup drive as practically empty, despite the Computer stats and CrystalDiskMark saying otherwise.

    2. What is likely going on here/what is the cause of all this? What does the behavior of this drive over the past week indicate?

    3. Given the info in this this thread, in all likelihood, *is* the data on that drive recoverable?

    4. What is the safest thing I can do to preserve the data on that drive, knowing something is definitely wrong with the drive itself? (Other than waiting another week or more and taking it to a PC repair specialist, time i unfortunately do not have).


Thanks in advance for any help or advice and again, apologies for the length. I really do *greatly* appreciate anyone who takes the time to read this and help me out; I’m currently in crisis mode as this data is irreplaceable *and* time sensitive for my work so any help in recovering it would mean a great deal to me. Thank you.
 
I have a very short question? If this work is "irreplaceable", where is the backup?

Disconnect your drive until you have downloaded and installed Piriform Recuva (https://www.piriform.com/recuva)

Once you have downloaded and installed it, reconnect your drive and see if Recuva can recover anything.

If not - too bad. Sorry for your loss.
 

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Unfortunately I didn't backup the work in the past 2 weeks due to having an extremely full schedule and no additional hard drives to back it up onto, though I had plans for doing so once I had more time and money to devote to the effort; I know that's no excuse, I just wasn't anticipating the external HD to start failing/dying/doing whatever it's doing in the following 2 or 3 weeks before I could back it up after it performed for a year and a half with no problems.



I will try this in a few hours unless a better solution is presented.
4 questions, though;

1. I just bought a brand new 3TB external HD when I noticed mine starting to have issues and have that on hand - is it possible to recover the data to that new drive instead of the current drive?

2. How long does a recovery of 1.6TB typically take using this program? I ask because I'd imagine it's something that shouldn't be interrupted but there are severe thunderstorms here all week and though I do have several battery backups which the external hard drives and the computer tower and monitor are plugged into, if the power goes out for more than an hour or so there is definitely a potential for the battery backup to run out of juice and the recovery process to be interrupted, and I don't know how serious that interruption would be in terms of botching the whole thing.

3. Will I be able to (or should I) use my computer at all while the data recovery is going on, or will I want to leave it alone entirely until it's done?

4. After ejecting the drive, should I turn my computer off or reboot it at all before or after the data recovery process, or could that potentially harm things further? I ask because the computer has been on for a while already and the longer it's on the glitchier it usually gets so a reboot may help but this thing is so touchy and giving me different results with every reboot that I don't know whether this would cause any further damage.

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Also, additional info since I made the original post: I just called the PC repair technician and asked his advice over the phone and he said I had a few options;

First, disassemble the external HD, get another external enclosure and put the hard drive in there as he said the USB component or something similar may be the issue and putting the drive into a new enclosure may make it work again.

Second, disassemble the external HD and install it as an internal HD instead by running a cable down to the motherboard directly, but he was iffy about this because he said that clearly the computer is at least partially recognizing that the drive is there so part of the USB circuitry is working so this may not help (and I believe this also applies to the first option).

Third, going to "data recovery people" who would take it to a "clean room" and physically take the drive apart and rebuild it, something that he said would cost anywhere from $1,200 to $2,500.

Fourth, he suggested what you did; ejecting the drive, unplugging the external hard drive entirely (USB and the power source so it doesn't spin up anymore at all) and buying/downloading the "best reviewed Data Recovery Software you can find online" and then once that's downloaded and ready, plug the new 3TB external hard drive in (which is brand new and thus empty) and then plug the old 3TB Seagate backup drive back in and use the Recovery Software to back up the data from the old 3TB Seagate external HD to the new 3TB drive.

I'm assuming that option 4 is probably the best and safest of the four, so that is likely what I'll do in another few hours (I've already disconnected the drive), but if anyone else thinks differently please let me know. Thanks again for any and all help.
 


This is what everyone says that loses data. :) The lesson is that it will *always* happen when you are not prepared for it. That's a corollary of Murphy's Law.



All recovery software must write to a different device. They do not write back to the failing device, they do not attempt to repair the failing device - they try and leave the device in the state it was in so as to not make it harder to recover whatever data is remaining on the drive. Trying *anything* like writing a MBR, any "repair" makes it harder and less probably that whatever data may be there will be recovered.



No idea. It depends on whether it's a simple or a difficult corruption/error and on a lot of things.



Best not to - you don't want to inadvertently cause a write to the drive being recovered.



It's USB attached. At this point, just pull the cord out. The less you (or Windows) fuxx0r with the drive the better. Once you have it unplugged - do whatever you want with the windows PC. Until you plug it back in - then just let Recuva do it's thing. Best idea is to do a dry run with Recuva on the new empty drive so you understand exactly what will happen. Then go for the real recovery.



If recuva fails, then you can most certainly try using the drive in a different USB enclosure - as I said, Recuva won't write to the drive it's trying to recover, so you can try more than once.

The physical disassembly is risky and extremely costly. and has a low likelihood of success. Unless whoever does it has a clean room and has the ability to work within the tolerances of the original manufacturing plant. I think $1.500 is too cheap. I've not heard of reputable outfits that doesn't charge 3-4 times that much for starters.

 

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Well, I downloaded and installed Recuva, plugged the original 3TB Seagate Hard Drive in and then plugged in the new 3TB Hard Drive to recover the files to. I followed the instructions on Piriform's website for recovering files from damaged disks and after clicking the drop-down box to specify the drive (G) I discovered that it wasn't there. I unplugged 3 of my other external HDs just to make things easier and when I go to Computer and view the drives it lists all 6, including the failed/failing 3TB Seagate Expansion G drive. Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/S9w42ib.png

C is my SSD and E and F are my internal hard drives, the three of which are all almost full, G is the backup 3TB External Hard Drive I'm trying to recover the data from, H is just a portable external drive, and I is the new 3TB hard drive I'm trying to back up the 1.6TB of data to from the G drive.

However, when I go to select the G drive in Recuva it lists the other 5 drives but no G drive. Screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/0bANaJ5.png

As you can see, C, E, F, H and I are all there, but no G. Instead, there's:
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume1)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume2)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume4)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume6)

I don't know what to make of this or what those 4 entries mean exactly. Are they the G drive (in 4 parts?) or totally unrelated?

Also, forgot to mention, but when I called my PC Technician again he recommended Stellar Phoenix Pro, R-Studio, or Ontrack EasyRecovery Professional for data back up. Each of those is a paid program, costing $99.00, $79.99 and $149.00 respectively and I don't know if I'd have any better luck with any of those and if so which of the three would be the most likely to do the best job.

Finally, searching through the web, I've found repeated recommendations for TestDisk, which is free and apparently very successful if used properly, but I know zero about command line applications or Linux live-CDs or anything like that and also from what I've read it's quite easy to really mess things up using this method, so I'm a bit wary...and I still don't know if it would get me any further than where I am now.

Any further recommendations for where I should go from here? Also, what should I make of the 4 entries for "Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume#)" on Recuva?
Thanks again!
 
You can try recuva on the:

Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume1)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume2)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume4)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume6)

Just trying Recuva own't make things worse. It won't write to the drive(s).

After that, you're on your won. You most certainly could try one of the paid utilities (it may just be the first of many $$ you throw at this problem, or you may be answer.

I'm not familiar with any other activities you can take.

You can try and see if the hardware is an issue by putting the physical HDD into a different external dock - those aren't too expensive.

THis happens to be on a special on Newegg today: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA3XW1F73825

Or you can throw some few thousand dollars at the problem by sending the entire thing to a professional recoery organization. Their take is probably htat the less you mess with the drive before they get it, the better their chances are of getting stuff off of it.

I'm really sorry. stuff like this is the inevitable result of no backup. Maybe you can take this as a very expensive lesson - Even an online backup like Google Drive, Carbonite, or SkyDrive would have been a cheaper solution, ultimately.
 

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Alright, it's the next morning, and here are all the latest updates...
First, I tried Recuva on these:
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume1)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume2)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume4)
Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume6)


For each one I went into Options - Actions and selected everything so it would be as thorough as possible. Here's a screenshot of the options I selected for the scans: http://i.imgur.com/xWk8SJj.png

I started with Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume1), expecting a very long scan, but in less than a few seconds it came back with a list of 61 files, none of which I recognized. Here is a screenshot of the scan results: http://i.imgur.com/2kuVpkm.png

I have no idea what any of these scan results are, but considering the vast majority have "Last Modified" dates years prior to December 2012 (when I first bought and installed the 3TB Seagate Expansion Drive) I'm assuming they have nothing to do with the 3TB G drive I'm trying to recover from.

I then tried the same scan on the other three: (Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume2), Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume4) and Local Disk (\\. \HarddiskVolume6)

Each time I did a scan on these I got this error result: http://i.imgur.com/ziKTPzZ.png

So, unless I'm missing something, it seems I exhausted all options with Recuva and there is nothing that program can do to help me.

So next I moved onto the paid Data Recovery Programs, or at least the trial versions of them (which are functionally the same, they do all the same things and will show you what they're able to recover, they just don't let you actually recover the files without paying.) First I tried the program that my PC repair technician uses for his own clients for Data Recovery -- Stellar Phoenix Pro. It at least recognized the G drive, but after doing a lengthy scan of all 5860507648 sectors of the hard drive it came back with exactly zero results for any files on the drive at all. Screenshot of Stellar Phoenix Pro's "scan results," i.e. Total: 0.00 bytes in 0 file(s) in 0 folder(s)" - http://i.imgur.com/7ERa71c.png

After that I tried another feature of the program, "Drive Status." Here are the results of that: http://i.imgur.com/TzgMrVk.png

Note that under "Hard Drive Status" the size for the G drive (Number 4) is listed as being 0.00KB. Though it wouldn't let me expand the window, the other 5 drives all had the normal amounts listed for size (465GB, 223GB, 1.81TB, 1.81TB) - it was only the G drive that had 0.00KB listed for whatever reason.
You'll also notice, however, that at the bottom of the screen under "Volume Information" it has the correct size listed, with a total of 2794.51GB and 1163.633 left to use. So again, unless I'm missing something, it doesn't look like Stellar Phoenix Pro can do anything either.

So then I moved on to the last paid program, R-Studio, and after reading the instructions I figured I needed to right click on the G drive and select either "Open Drive Files" or "Recover Files." This option was available for every other drive, but not for the G drive. When I selected either option for the G drive I got this error message: http://i.imgur.com/p7PG3rT.png

So I did as it told me to and tried the Scan method instead. After an hour or so (getting up to something like 5GB scanned out of 1.6TB) with over 76 hours remaining, every single attempt had failed, saying "Read disk G: at position (long number) (longer number) failed after 1 attempts. The parameter is incorrect (87)". After an hour of nonstop failure messages I decided to give up and cancel the scan. Here is a screenshot of the scan results: http://i.imgur.com/kIAgPmT.png
(Note that in addition to all the identical error messages in the scan log at the bottom, the shade of green shown in the "Scan Information" graph indicates "Unrecognized" according to the legend beneath it.)

Also, if it's any help at all, here are the "Properties" listed by R-Studio for both the malfunctioning G: drive and the healthy new I: drive (G: on top, I: below it), so maybe some info could be garnered from that: http://i.imgur.com/bSAZoO2.png

Even if I could take it to my PC technician or mail it to him it kind of seems doubtful they'd get much further than I did, as he himself admitted the Data Recovery Software they use is Stellar Phoenix which is the same program I tried with no luck whatsoever. Granted, he claimed that his version of the program was a "commercial license" that cost him "over $1,000.00" and I tried a trial version of the $99 Professional version, but the website did claim that it did have all the data recovery capabilities for a USB NTFS external HD like mine across all versions and that the trial was just as effective as the paid version, the only difference again being that while it would find the files for you, you had to buy the paid version in order to actually recover them...and it found zero files whatsoever after a lengthy scan. At the time we talked (we talked twice yesterday) I had not yet tried using Stellar Phoenix, but he sounded kind of pessimistic about being able to recover the data given what I'd told him about my issues with the drive. He did tell me that he would have to charge me a $100 minimum regardless of whether they could recover any data or not but that he would also not charge me any more than $200 even if the recovery process was successful and took days due to me being a frequent patron of their independent business. Though I have no doubt he's a professional, rather than potentially losing $100 plus two-way shipping and coming up empty handed, I'd honestly be more concerned about his attempted recovery of the files somehow botching the drive permanently so that no other solution would be possible afterward...so I'm not sure where to go from this point (other than mailing it to the "dreaded Data Recovery people" as my technician put it over the phone, which sounds like it would not only cost thousands but also take weeks to fix.)

Trying "TestDisk" might be my next and possibly final solution but reading through the instructions for using it make it seem like a pretty daunting task, not to mention a lengthy and risky one since it requires a knowledge of Linux and the like which I do not possess.

One final thing I should mention; when originally purchasing this Seagate 3TB hard drive from Amazon in late 2012 I also purchased a SquareTrade 2-Year PC Peripherals Warranty ($75-100) for the drive and since it hasn't been 2 years yet, that may still be worth something. It promises "Fixed or receive full replacement cost in 5 days or less - guaranteed" and "Free 2-way shipping for repairs" - obviously I don't care about a "full replacement cost," I need the drive fixed, but if they are indeed able to repair it for free then that would be great, I'm just a little skeptical about this claim. It also says, "send us a valid repair receipt for your item and we will reimburse you within five business days." I'd need to read the fine print, of course, but if this means the only solution is sending it to a "clean room" Data Recovery service and it ends up costing thousands of dollars (if not tens of thousands) does this mean I could send SquareTrade the repair receipt and they'd reimburse me all of those thousands in repairs? The "most helpful" reviews on their Amazon page are all quite negative (I distinctly remember this *not* being the case when I purchased it in addition to the drive back at the end of 2012) but it seems their main complaint is that the SquareTrade warranty doesn't go into effect until after the Manufacturer's Warranty expires -- and in my case, the Seagate warranty for this particular drive expired in February 2014, supposedly meaning I'd have an additional 2 year warranty through them until February 2016 if this is true. The other problem is that I don't know whether the "($75-100)" part of their warranty refers to the price of the product itself (this is what I assumed when I purchased the drive, as it was then on sale for $99) or if that's the amount of money they are willing to repair for or reimburse repairs for, which wouldn't mean much if a professional repair ends up costing thousands. Again, maybe grasping at straws here, but I figured it worth mentioning.



I have not; one thing I was repeatedly told over the phone with my PC tech as well as have read online (including the instructions for the R-Studio Data Recovery Software) is that once a drive starts behaving like this, it's best to disconnect it immediately and entirely until a good solution can be found, as the more you mess with it/the more it spins, the less likely you are to be able to get data off of it. I don't know much about Seatools by Seagate but unless there is a considerable likelihood (50%+) that it can fix this drive/recover the data, I'm hesitant to reconnect the drive and try it out. This is not the first Seagate hard drive that has failed on me (and, perhaps uncoincidentally, the *only* hard drives I've ever had fail on me have been Seagates...) and I originally tried posting this thread on the official Seagate forum (http://forums.seagate.com/) but, in a darkly ironic fashion, their own forum is currently broken and has been down this whole week, giving me the error "http://forums.seagate.com is down for maintenance. Sorry for the inconvenience. We'll be back shortly." for at least 5 days now. So my trust in Seagate and their products is unfortunately not terribly high at the moment at the moment, leaving me hesitant to try to reconnect the drive and use Seatools on it, unless there's a lot of documented proof of Seatools fixing drives like this before.

Once again, a sincere thank you to everyone who has read through this/offered help and advice; any further help, advice or recommendations is, as always, greatly appreciated.
 
Your only remaining hope is that it is the drive electronics that failed and if you send it in to a professional recovery organization, they can remove the circuit board from it, replace it with an identical circuit board, spin it up and recover the data. Sorry.

And, for future reference, here is how I back up my computers.

I have a local, networked machine (Windows Home Server, soon to become a Synology NAS) - THis runs every night, backing up every computer that is connected to it.. The backups are incremental and doesn't take very long.

In addition, every computer runs a product from Cloudberry Labs that allows me to backup to Amazon Glacier - Amazon Glacier is Amazon's low-cost cloud storage solution. They basically charge you only for access to the data and even them not much - the drawback is there is at least a 4-hour delay on recovering data. The plus side it costs under $5/month. :)

Backing up to the cloud is a slow process, and restoring also. I know, I tried the recovery option. :(

However, it physically removes the data from my home and protects against local catastrophes - theft, fire, flood, etc.

So, best of luck with the physical recovery - maybe you can put a price on the data and instruct the service to only try remedies that will not run over that limit.

My feeling on the square trade warranty is that they'll simply replace your drive. and you will have lost the drive - most warranties work that way. THey protect the tangible value of the item they insure, not the intangible value.