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Upgrading from AMD Phenom II x4 965

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August 6, 2014 10:10:55 AM

Currently I have an AMD Phenom II x4 965, paired with a GTX 770. I feel like it might be time for a CPU upgrade, as I've had this CPU for a while. I'm looking to spend around $200 on a new CPU. So, what would give me the most performance increase from the Phenom II with my GTX 770?

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August 6, 2014 10:16:45 AM

Definitely the i5 4670k.if you want to upgrade.You will definitely see huge improvements in games like watchdogs,crysis and cpu intensive games.

But i think its not required to do so currently because you need a new mobo and if you wait a little more ddr4 will be out in a year or so.

Stick to it wait for a year and new product will be released.maybe even a new powerful cpu at a cheaper price.
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August 6, 2014 10:29:10 AM

Unless AMD releases something absolutely crazy for the desktop market in the next year, you absolutely should upgrade to a current i5 and just suck it up and replace the motherboard. If your current board supports AM3+ you could get an FX-8320 which is alright, but really not worth the value at this point.
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August 6, 2014 2:00:24 PM

Splips said:
Currently I have an AMD Phenom II x4 965, paired with a GTX 770. I feel like it might be time for a CPU upgrade, as I've had this CPU for a while. I'm looking to spend around $200 on a new CPU. So, what would give me the most performance increase from the Phenom II with my GTX 770?


OMG i was just in your exact shoes except i had a 1100T and yes you will see a 20-30% boost just from going to a 8350fx i did and i even had my 1100T OC 3.9ghz. Far cry 3 was the most impressive to me i used to get 33FPS in the village at ultra now i'm getting 45-50FPS in the same area.
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August 6, 2014 2:02:01 PM

viewtyjoe said:
Unless AMD releases something absolutely crazy for the desktop market in the next year, you absolutely should upgrade to a current i5 and just suck it up and replace the motherboard. If your current board supports AM3+ you could get an FX-8320 which is alright, but really not worth the value at this point.


yeah the AM3+ boards are done but how is 20-30% boost in gaming not a worthy benefit?
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August 6, 2014 3:44:17 PM

jdwii said:
viewtyjoe said:
Unless AMD releases something absolutely crazy for the desktop market in the next year, you absolutely should upgrade to a current i5 and just suck it up and replace the motherboard. If your current board supports AM3+ you could get an FX-8320 which is alright, but really not worth the value at this point.


yeah the AM3+ boards are done but how is 20-30% boost in gaming not a worthy benefit?


Why spend $200 on a 20-30% upgrade now into a dead end when you can save up a little more and get much more?
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August 6, 2014 4:29:39 PM

Splips said:
Currently I have an AMD Phenom II x4 965, paired with a GTX 770. I feel like it might be time for a CPU upgrade, as I've had this CPU for a while. I'm looking to spend around $200 on a new CPU. So, what would give me the most performance increase from the Phenom II with my GTX 770?


Hello,

I was in almost the same situation until yesterday. I had Phenom II X4 955 BE a bit overclocked to 3.6 GHz and a GTX 770. Yesterday morning I received my new Z97 Motherboard and a i5 4670K (I manged to buy the CPU for £110) and after installing them I only had a few hours to test a couple of games but I was really pleased with the performance boost I got. I haven't even had the chance to overclock the i5 so the results below are on stock speed (3.4 GHz)

Examples:

    I always thought GTA 4 was just a poorly optimized game and blamed it on this that I was getting around 50 FPS. Now with all settings on max I'm playing at around 90 FPS.
    Star Wars: The old republic from 44-48 fps to 90-120
    Skyrim from around 70 to 120
    Battlefield 4 on a multiplayer map with 32 players from High settings at around 70 FPS with some drops to Ultra settings at 100-120 FPS.
    Neverwinter (the MMORPG) from around 60 FPS with some reduced graphics setting to around 100 FPS with all settings on max.

I always had problems with my old AMD CPU when it came to playing MMO games but with the i5 4670k the frame rates in some cases have doubled. I'm very pleased. Unfortunately in your csae you would also need a new motherboard as you can imagine so this goes above your budget of $200.

Initially I thought I would buy a cheap motherboard and a AMD 8320 but this is really a dead end when comes to upgrades. So I decided to spend some more money and go Intel. I hope the Z97 board would give me some more room for future upgrades.

I hope this helps you making up your mind.

P.S. For those of you who might ask why would I need higher than 60 FPS please note that I play on a 120 Hz monitor and please don't start with arguments what can the human eye see and what not.
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August 6, 2014 5:00:45 PM

If you have a 60Hz monitor, like most users, having a CPU/GPU combo capable of 100fps or more is actually a benefit. Not all parts of every game will maintain the 100 fps, for example if you have extreme settings and walk into a field with lots of high moving grass and a long visual distance, you will suffer some frame loss, just because of the extreme details involved. Being able to 'see' only 60 fps, even grass like that may only drop you from 100 to 60 fps. End result is seamless play, no stutters. This is a good thing.

I like AMD CPUs just fine, but its a crying shame that they didn't use the Phenom II as the base for a better idea, as Intel did starting with the Sandy Bridge CPUs. Currently, if you want something 'new' from AMD, you actually get something that performs worse than the 'old' stuff, APUs vrs FX. Unless you are running programs optimized for the multi-core AMD architecture, Intel has AMD beat across the board. It would be worth saving up for a decent Intel CPU and motherboard to pair with the gtx770.

Sorry AMD, but you're 2 steps behind and facing the wrong way.
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