Motherboard/CPU/ Heat test fail

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Hi everyone, i open this topic because i have an unusual sistem instability. Since i bought my new sistem (3 weeks now) i have all kind of problems, audio, with flash player(i think) computer freezes, blue screen, 100% disk usage at startup, what can i say, i´m on the edge:/ here. But i calmed myself down and i passed over this until i decided to overclock my CPU, then the big problem appeared. To start i will post my sistem configuration:
- LC Power LC6600 V2.2 600W
- Corsair XMS3 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 1600 MHz (PC3 12800)
- GIGABYTE GeForce GTX 750 TI OC 2048MB GDDR
- Corsair Carbide Series Black SPEC-02
- Asus DRW-24F1ST
- AMD FX 8350 4.0Ghz
- ARCTIC Freezer XTREME Rev.2
- Asus M5A97 EVO Socket AM3 + R2.0

Now, what i did i followed this tutorial ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MckeAmnDeTk ) to make the overclock settings in my BIOS, i followed allmost all setting exept i did not modified the CPU bus frequencies, instead i choosed to change the CPU ratio, the first main settings where voltage 1.4, and multipier to 22.5 and the sistem booted up fine. The bad part comes when i tried to make the sistem stress test, first with AIDA 64, and afterwards with Prime95. Of course the sistem reached 66 degrees celsius on socket sensor and 54 on cores( with AIDA64) after just 15 minutes. Seeing this i was scared to continue the test and also avoided Prime test because we all know why... So then i tried to boot with a lower voltage (on auto settings, 1.365 i think) and standard frequency 4.0Ghz and run sistem stress again this time with AIDA stable at 55 on socket sensor. But when i runned Pime OMG, i reached 68 on socket after 10 minutes and i stopped the test and start to check my sistem coolers and so on, to see if something is failing, but everything was functioning normal. After this i instaled AMD Overdrive to have a more acurate read of processor state and temperature and i runned one more time PRIME, and surprise after 10 minutes i´ve reached 72 deegres celsius on socket, 54.5 on cores and 22 on thermal margin, and here starts the fun. After the temperature has stabilized for 3 minutes, slowly started to increse again an about 0.5 degrees at every 2 minutes (i´m guessing that with standard cooler my sistem was fried for up long time now). I was amazed, and imediatly i started to inspect visualy the case to see if something happend with the coolers, but nothing wrong again... and then i remembered that my North Bridge and South Bridge of my mother board have the tendancy to get very hot, and when i touched my case on the upper corner where the NB heatsink is, surprize the case itself was warm, and then i realized that the motherboard itself gradualy is heating up and that´s why my temperatures on processor are also increasing. Now i see a connection related to a problem i had in the first day of using the new sistem, it was very unstable and the sistem shuted itself down for no aparent reason, at that time in games my NB and SB heatsinks were also pretty hot, until i saw that my motherboard choosed the wrong settings for my memory modules, and after a manual set all returned to normal(with instability not with the heat, the heat problem i just ignored it because some folks said that the NB functioning hot is normal... but now i realize that is not. The problem is i don´t have a thermometer to see the actual temperature).
My suspicion is that my motherboard has some problems with auto regulate its settings in BIOS, so i have to check them in part, and set the right values manualy, the problem is i do not know very much about BIOS settings and what they mean an do, so if you can help me to go through them together and discover what´s wrongly set that will be excelent. I will try to post all my settings from BIOS, but until then maybe you can suggest a specific setting that can be related to this kind of problem. I also posted below a picture of my motherboard and a picture of inside my case to see how things are placed. (I apologize for my bad english)
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In the picture with my case, the top left corner as you look at the picture, get´s hot exactly behind the NB heatsink. I do not know if the SB heatsink acts the same beacause i have a fake wall in my case for cable management and is no direct contact with back pannel.
 
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Hello,

This is the problem with the aftermarket coolers: they don't cool the CPU's surroundings as good as the stock cooler, and the motherboard layout is not helping either. While Arctic Freezer (and pretty much any tower cooler) is very nice with the CPU and subsequently with the components situated under its airflow (RAM, VRM heatsink), the NB has little to no ventilation being situated between the CPU socket and first PCI-E slot (where you have another big temperature generator, your GPU).

Please mount an additional fan in the NB's surroundings or/and change the NB radiator:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233021

EDIT: it seems that the NB radiator cannot be easily removed (I don't see any retention...

Cristi72

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Hello,

This is the problem with the aftermarket coolers: they don't cool the CPU's surroundings as good as the stock cooler, and the motherboard layout is not helping either. While Arctic Freezer (and pretty much any tower cooler) is very nice with the CPU and subsequently with the components situated under its airflow (RAM, VRM heatsink), the NB has little to no ventilation being situated between the CPU socket and first PCI-E slot (where you have another big temperature generator, your GPU).

Please mount an additional fan in the NB's surroundings or/and change the NB radiator:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233021

EDIT: it seems that the NB radiator cannot be easily removed (I don't see any retention system, so it is maybe glued to the NB), so the next best thing is:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835119066
 
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Ok, i need to clarify something, i just searched on the web, and i see that the top left heatsink is for CPU VRM (don´t know what that is), the one between CPU cooler and GPU is the Northbridge heatsink and the Southbridge heatsink is near the SATA ports. So the Southbridge is the coolest then a bit hot is the NB, and the hottest is the large one CPU VRM heatsink. Why is so hot? What does he do?
 

Cristi72

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Oh, that is the one with high temps? The VRM (aka Voltage Regulator Module) is responsible with supplying the power to the CPU (it inputs 12V and outputs between 0.8V and 1.65V, depending of the CPU power state). It should be cooled by the air stream from the CPU cooler; are you sure you mounted the cooler properly? The air must enter the RAM side and exit towards the back of the case.
 
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Yes is instaled properly, but the cooler is too tall and to close to the back case fan and the airflow passes above the heatsink. It is to bad that i don´t have a thermometer to measure the temps. I will try to position my Cpu stock cooler in different places to see if something changes. I will try to find the best position but the space is limited. Question: is it better to blow air on the heatsink from above or to extract the air from the case? the second solution i think is gonna create less air turbulence.
And the second question : what can i change in the BIOS settings to minimize the heating of NB and CPU VRM heatsink? frequencies or voltages or mobos modes.. i don´t know any ideea is welcomed.
 

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Usually its: Take cool air in on front/sides and hot air out on top and back. But if your VRM is so extremely hot, could you be using to much power to the CPU? But as your motherboard supports the FX-8350 and you have the newest bios I would think it should "autodetect" the right settings. Else you might try older bios or manually configure the settings. Check that you dont have some "auto overclock" setting or something in the BIOS.
 
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So, the problem in the end was insuficient air flow over the VRM radiators, ( not excesive current or other BIOS setting ) because of my hardware configuration with that tower CPU cooler. Be carefull guys and choose your cooling methods taking in consideration your motherboard needs. Tnx for your responses.