Few Spec Questions.

Metaformed · Aug 7, 2014

So This Is My Partlist: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/jVccgs

These Are My Qustions:

1. I know the 212 Evo Is Like The Best One But, Is there Any Cheaper Ones Out There. I Probably won't be over clocking. At Least Not Right Now, should I just stick with the stock? Noise Is Not A Issue with me, my headphones are active noise canceling.

2. What real advantages does Nvidia have for Editing/Rendering, because I do plan on spending some time in After Effects, Premiere, and applications like that?

3. For my PSU, 500w should be enough for just gaming. I don't plan on pushing it to its fullest?

4. Would that 500w be enough for a second 660 in about 6 months. Or would I need to upgrade then?

JackNaylorPE · Aug 7, 2014

1. The 212 EVO is far from the "best one", but it's one of the best ones "for the money". Coolers from Phanteks (PH-TC14-PE) and Noctua (DH-14 & 15) will give you 10C lower temps.

2. CUDA
http://www.studio1productions.com/Articles/PremiereCS5.htm

3. Nvidia says 450 watts
http://www.geforce.com/hardware/desktop-gpus/geforce-gtx-660/specifications

Guru3D recommends 450-500
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/asus_geforce_gtx_660_directcu_ii_top_review,7.html

4. See above

Here is Guru3Ds power supply recommendation:

GeForce GTX 660 - On your average system the card requires you to have a 450~500 Watt power supply unit.
GeForce GTX 660 SLI - On your average system the cards require you to have a 700 Watt power supply unit as minimum.

If you are going to overclock GPU or processor, then we do recommend you purchase something with some more stamina.

byza · Aug 7, 2014

The 212 is the best budget cooler but if your not going to OC stock is ok. 500w is enough for a single 660, but not dual 660s. Also don't get a CX PSU, they are rubbish. get something tier 1, 2a or 2b from this list. XFX are often the cheapest good quality PSUs.

JackNaylorPE · Aug 7, 2014

There are many PSUs on that list with shoddy components and mis-tiered ... just looking at Corsair for example

Corsair AXi > HX (650 - 850) > AX > HX 1000 / 1050
Corsair RM has cheap caps in most units

byza · Aug 7, 2014

I agree that there are a few out of place and it could use a good update, but for someone who doesn't know anything about PSU's it's a good starting guide. If anything it at least opens their eyes to the fact that all PSUs are not equal, but really there is no substitute for doing some solid research on your PSU of choice.

JackNaylorPE · Aug 7, 2014

Much agreed. Formerly quality brands have gone downhill and former average brands have improved. The hardest thing is dispelling mindsets that result from:

"The HX850 is a great PSU" gets read by people who next time they are asked a PSU question respond:

"Corsair makes great PSUs"

If they said the "Corsair HX series is a great PSU", that is still misleading as while the 650 - 850 models are great PSUs, the 100 and 1050 are, by comparison, pretty crappy. Here's an ancient THG post I made some years ago and while the model numbers have changed, the concept remains

Also, advice about brands should be taken with a few pounds of salt . Which of the following do you think is true ?

Antec makes crappy PSU's
Antec makes good PSU's
Antec makes very good PSU's
Antec makes great PSU's

The answer .... all of the above. Manufacturer's are in business to make money ... the more they sell the more they make. Targeting a single market segment limits the number of customers you can sell to, limiting the amount of sales. So most vendors sell to multiple market segments:

Great PSU's
CP-850 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=142
SG-650 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=113
SG-850 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=101

Very Good PSU's
HCG-900 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=211
HCP-1200 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=198
CP-1000 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=173
TP-750 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=140
TPQ-850 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=58
EA-500 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=35

Good PSU's
HCP-850 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=215
TPQ-1200 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=177
EA-750 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story5&reid=173
EA-650 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=110

Crappy PSU's
NP-650 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=117
TPT-650 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story4&reid=1
TP2-550 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story2&reid=22

That can pretty much be said by just about every PSU "seller" and even applies to an extent within series l

byza · Aug 7, 2014

I love that 'Corsair make great PSU's' is your example. The amount of times I read that on these forums, despite about half their PSU's being crap, especially in their budget lines where most people are looking. Although they do have some awesome PSU's as well.
It's actually pretty shocking (sometimes literally) what PSU manufacturers/sellers can get away with due to the lack of transparency in their components.
Metaformed thought he was asking a simple question and now he has to read our venting...

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