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Building a gaming pc for the first time in many years and finding choosing a Motherboard a bit overwhelming. Looking for suggestion for the following setup. Also, not planning to overclock so I am unsure whether I need any additional cooling for this system.

http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/ysm88d
 
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Looks like I guessed right (see previous post) regarding the K thing :)

The HX 750 is over sized for a single GPU and undersized for a dual 780 SLI build. I'd suggest the 850 thereby preserving the option to add a 2nd card down the line. If absolutely sure that will neve rhappen, get the 650....stay away from the HX1000 and 1050 to, not up to the quality of the 650-850. Also keep in mind HX is no longer in production so supplies dwindling. The EVGA SuperNova G2 is a...
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My general "Go To" boards in The $100 - $200 price range for the last 2 years has been the MSI G45 and GD65. With Z87, the G45 won over 40 awards and the GD65 was the best reviewed MoBo of its generation.

You'd be hard pressed to find a difference between the Asus Hero and GD65 but the DG is $40-$50 cheaper. The MSI also isn't subject to the BIOS clock freeze bug as described in this thread and as described by a Z97 Hero user in 1st post on this page (also check newegg eviewes and rest of that thread for other afflicted Hero owners

http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?36676-Frozen-Time-Clock-in-UEFI-The-Fix/page33
http://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?33895-Hero-Time-Clock-Problem

Few pointers.....

1. The 4670k was popular with gamers as HT offered little to gamers and the 0.1 GHz speed advantage was deemed not worth $100 .... that argument gets weak with the 4790k and 4790k as the 4790k's advantage is a whopping 0.5 Ghz. So while $100 is a significant difference, you should think about what you get for what you spend. Why the K if you don't want to overclock ? If it's something you don't wanna do now, you might wanna keep the option apen and do it later .... but if absolutely sure you will bever OC then drop the k

2. The EVGA is the weakest of all the GTX 780s. The Asus and MSI are the cream of the crop with the MSI having the big edge on noise.

http://uk.hardware.info/reviews/4639/10/nvidia-geforce-gtx-780-asus-vs-evga-vs-inno3d-vs-msi-conclusion

3. The HAF was one of the best cases available 5 years ago.

8.95 rating - http://archive.benchmarkreviews.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=567&Itemid=99999999&limit=1&limitstart=5

9.50 rating - http://benchmarkreviews.com/15792/phanteks-enthoo-pro-tower-case-review/6/
http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/phanteks-case-phes614pwt

Or the new Luxe which was released yesterday
http://phanteks.com/Enthoo-Luxe.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=guBAl6g8BlY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkRJsjuvQVY

 
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This is a great option: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusvihero but it might not but in your price range so if not this is also a good board: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusvihero.

If you don't plan to OC at the moment the no aftermarket cooling is needed but it might be down the line. If you don't want the OC at all period then you don't need and unlocked CPU .

Also what are you going to do about a PSU?

Hope this helps :)

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I did not see the PSU listed that I am currently looking at. It is Corsair HX Professional Series 750-Watt 80 Plus Certified. I may want to overclock in the future as I become more knowledgeable about my hardware, which is why I decided to go the CPU that I did.
 
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Fair enough. The Asus board it great for OCing. Don't forget to pick a best solution and If you have any more questions just ask :)

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Looks like I guessed right (see previous post) regarding the K thing :)

The HX 750 is over sized for a single GPU and undersized for a dual 780 SLI build. I'd suggest the 850 thereby preserving the option to add a 2nd card down the line. If absolutely sure that will neve rhappen, get the 650....stay away from the HX1000 and 1050 to, not up to the quality of the 650-850. Also keep in mind HX is no longer in production so supplies dwindling. The EVGA SuperNova G2 is a good alternative as is the Seasonic M12.... if ya wanna step up the Seasonic X series is the pinnacle.

Just a thought but it's kinda a PITA to install a cooler on an already built PC .... so even tho, you don't need it now, ya might consider saving the hassle and installing now unless budget restrictions keep you from getting what ya want.

$25 - $50 Budget - Hyper 212
$65 - $90 Budget - Phanteks PH-TC14-PE, Noctua DH14 or 15, Cryorig R1
$100+ - Swiftech 220-X

I have not seen an AIO that can compete in thermals / noise in those price ranges.
 
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Thanks everyone for your help. I decided to go with the MSI GD65 Motherboard. I also switched to a Seasonic X-850 PSU, switched to the ASUS GTX780 and added the Hyper212.
 
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Based upon my experience, both the Hero and M6F overclock about the same as the MSI boards, tho reviewers seem to go more gaga over the MSI. The only notable difference between the Hero and GD65 is the $50 price tag .... feature list and component quality is virtually identical and the $25-30 combo discount ya get with the DC CPUs makes the MSI GD65 $75 cheaper than the Hero

I prefer the Asus BIOS and really like AISuite, most notably the FanXpert utility but 2 of the 3 Z87 Hero builds I have been involved with have the BIOS Clock Freeze bug noted above, as well as my own M6F. With the bug having been confirmed on all Z97 boards also (see newegg Hero reviews and RoG Forums), we have basically stopped building with the Formula. In the $ $200 bracket, we have gone from a mix of Hero and GD65 builds to 100% MSI.

With the only response from Asus being a temporary fix, an announced BIOS fix for non RoG Boards (June 11) that never materialized, and numerous promises of "someone will get back to you" which never happens, I can no longer in good conscience recommend their boards until this problem is addressed.

I mean every manufacturer has a bugaboo jump in with a new generation board now and then. MSI had it with the G45 and GD65 with the Killer LAN firmware problem for example.... but it was quickly addressed. This BIOS clock issue has been around since August 2013 with no more than a temporary fix that restarts the clock only to have it reappear between hours and weeks later.
 
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