Why do some people prefer gtx 780ti over r9 290x?

Agent Ardalan

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Seriously Guys, I am confused. I don't really care about the specifications of the cards. I don't really understand them however. But what is obvious is the both cards almost act the same in benchmarks. only with a little bit difference. And Gtx 780 ti is about 200$ more expensive!
I am just asking a question here. Don't want to argue. I need advise. I am building a new rig.
I currently have a gtx 760(in my current rig) I was thinking to buy another one and sli it in my new upcoming rig. Then some people told me that a single powerful card is better than dual sli weaker card. So I started digging and ran into gtx 780 and then gtx 780 ti. I accidentally noticed r9 290x (I never even think about amd because I want to limit my choices and not to get confused more than I am between models)
Then I noticed this price difference and performance similarity so I tried to ask you guys for some advice. There is also news that 880 will come september. So I thought maybe I should stick with my 760 for now and decide whenever 880 come out. Is there any other choice for me to consider rather than sli 760 or choose between 780 ti or r9 290x?
I am currently playing games at 1440x900. I might consider buying a 1080p display later.
My current rig:
P7P55DLE Motherboard
Intel Core i7 860 cpu
8 gb ram
gtx 760 vga 2gb
I want to get a z97 board with a i7 4790k. And as for graphic card I am still here asking for advice.





 
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Recently I obtained two 7970 GHz edition cards, to add to my benchmarking info collection. Been wanting
to try them for a while, to compare to multiple GTX 580s.

My experience of using the 7970s once again affirms the main reason why I prefer NVIDIA: driver quality
and stability.

Again and again I kept seeing weird issues with the setup, especially in CF. Nothing to do with the
cards themselves, neither is inherantly faulty, it's just the drivers, issue after issue which simply never
happens with NVIDIA cards, for example:

- GPU-Z frozen after a settings change,
- Afterburner not working properly after a settings change,
- Unstable when running in CF mode (Futuremark, Crysis, etc.),
- Graphics glitches in CF mode,
- Poor performance...

Armo1000

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the r9 290x work smoothly even with 1440p display.. Realy awesome card (Bang for the Buck).. If you need a card for playing games @ less then or equal to 1080p, r9 290x is a really awesome card or i should say its an overkill.

The reason why people dont buy AMD card is probably they are NVIDIA fans as Joeteoh99
 

Bastian Faber

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R9 290X is definetely better for what you pay. AMD has always been cheap and has always been up to pair with nVidia. Now why people whould choose the GTX 780 Ti, simply because they have the money and they want the best, or they didn't know about the R9 290X. Now if someone came up to me and said you can have one of these two graphic cards for free I would pick the 780Ti. The 780Ti is the better card, but not with much.
So here if you don't know what to choose ask yourself this. Would you rather have a few ekstra frames and pay an ekstra 200USD, or would you rather save 200USD and lose a few frames.
 
See http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Failure-Rates-by-Generation-563/ - hasn't helped the sales of Radeon cards.

But different cards become best price / performance over time eg right now the Gigabyte R9 290 is good and the R9 270X. You can't beat a GTX780Ti though unless you want 4K where you should cough up $1500 for a R9 295x2
 


Yeah, NVIDIA also have great warranty especially if you go with MSI or ASUS.
 
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There is no harm in waiting for the new launches - if nothing else, you might get better deals on previous models. Especially since right now you're on 1440x900 where the 760, that you already have, should work quite well. Once you move onto 1080p and a bigger CPU, then at that time you can check the market to see which model gives you the best return for your money.

 

RobCrezz

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To some people Nvidia's proprietary features are important, and also in my experience Nvidia card generally have better drivers, more stability (See R9 290/290x black screen issues), much higher quality reference cooler designs (blower type coolers are important to some people, especially people running very small cases) and are quicker to release new drivers to either fix bugs or improve performance in a new game.

That said, AMD do give you more bang for your buck. I have generally always leaned towards Nvidia, but I would (and have) purchase AMD/ATI cards.


OP, im surprised you need more than a GTX 760 at 1440x900 though, a 760 should handle that res easy.
 

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Recently I obtained two 7970 GHz edition cards, to add to my benchmarking info collection. Been wanting
to try them for a while, to compare to multiple GTX 580s.

My experience of using the 7970s once again affirms the main reason why I prefer NVIDIA: driver quality
and stability.

Again and again I kept seeing weird issues with the setup, especially in CF. Nothing to do with the
cards themselves, neither is inherantly faulty, it's just the drivers, issue after issue which simply never
happens with NVIDIA cards, for example:

- GPU-Z frozen after a settings change,
- Afterburner not working properly after a settings change,
- Unstable when running in CF mode (Futuremark, Crysis, etc.),
- Graphics glitches in CF mode,
- Poor performance with CF/DX9 in some cases (1 card is faster), and so on.

As I say, these sorts of things don't happen when I'm working with NVIDIA cards.


So why buy AMD? Because they're often cheaper, faster, have more RAM, etc. The 7970 is a
really quick card, basically the same as a 280X (and Futuremark identifies them as such), with
a single 7970 easily beating a good 580 most of the time, and two 7970s often coming close
to three 580s (depends on the game, etc., but sometimes the difference is quite large). Thing
is, all the performance in the world is useless if the platform isn't stable, and that's down to
the driver quality. I couldn't get 7970 CF working at all with Crysis, way too much graphics
corruption. Even with one card, it would occasionally do something odd; OTOH, it was certainly
quick, about 40 to 60fps at 2560x1440, max detail.

So, it's a tradeoff: AMD cards often have price/performance advantages and other features,
eg. supporting a larger number of displays, and atm they certainly have a VRAM edge that
can make all the difference at 4K res (have to say I'm surprised that the GTX 880 is only
going to have 4GB RAM, assuming the spec rumours are true).

So the 780 Ti is expensive. Absolutely. And it has less RAM. Yep. But if you want to minimise
driver issues, buy the 780 Ti for sure.

Note that other games are probably less sensitive to AMD's CF issues & suchlike, eg. I was
able to run all my FC2 tests ok, so in some cases I expect the driver woes are less of a
problem. Thus, if someone on a budget did want to buy AMD cards atm, I'd have no hesitation
in recommending two used 7970 GHz editions - very quick, easily enough RAM up to 2560x1440,
even 4K in some cases (remember this is the same as 280X CF).

Beyond gaming though, there are other factors that come into play, eg. those who use their PCs
for video where CUDA can be useful in apps such as After Effects, Blender, etc.

To the OP: decide what matters more to you: absolute cost & performance, or a reliable & stable
platform. Right now, if you want the former, then buy AMD; if you want the latter, then buy NVIDIA.
My guess is NVIDIA knows that people who prefer the latter are happy to pay extra for the higher
driver quality, and thus the cards cost more. If AMD could improve its drivers, I doubt the final price
differences would be anywhere near as large as they are.

For my benchmarking efforts I've obtained a significant collection of both cards (more than 40 so far),
hence why I see the contrast so much between the driver quality.

Ian.

 
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Agent Ardalan

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Thank you all guys. All answers where good and helpful. As one of you mentioned I shouldn't have problems in 1440x900 with 760. But I have annoying frame drops. That might be because of the weak cpu and the weak ram or whatever. I would upgrade other parts of the system and see what happens with performance. Then I will decide if I even need to buy another vga or not.
Even It won't hurt to wait for 880.
I am not really in a hurry.
As for the r9 290x vs GTX 780 ti I got my answers and thanks again!