MSI 760 TF Burnss!!

Vergille Hell · Aug 8, 2014

I bought MSI gtx 760 TF -- after using only 7 months under air-conditioned room -- then suddenly == A chip burned under the fan -- AND there were also rust in the nuts --- my friend bought 780 and the same thing happened == WTF MSI WTF --- they are giving 3rd grade products.

FoxVoxDK · Aug 8, 2014

Yea, air conditioning without a dehumidifier is an invitation to condensation on any warmer object.

JackNaylorPE · Aug 8, 2014

Where'd the water come from ? .... leaky AIO ?

Vergille Hell · Aug 8, 2014

Well i have used other PCIs -- but this happened for the first time -__-

Vergille Hell · Aug 8, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

i have no idea -_- == all i know i have to buy a new one. but never msi -_-

JackNaylorPE · Aug 9, 2014

The video card is certainly not responsible for water being inside your PC. Again, do you have an AIO ?

Vergille Hell · Aug 12, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

Sorry for the stupid question, but what is AIO?

FoxVoxDK · Aug 12, 2014

Vergille Hell :

AIO = All-in-one is a reference to an of the shelf pre-made water cooling unit, like the Corsair H110, containing pump, radiator and fans.

Vergille Hell · Aug 16, 2014

FoxVoxDK :

Vergille Hell :

AIO = All-in-one is a reference to an of the shelf pre-made water cooling unit, like the Corsair H110, containing pump, radiator and fans.

No no, i have no such thing

Kaileb Wyatt · Aug 16, 2014

Are you using any stand alone air conditioners? Condensation is know to build from the stand alone AC's that take water to cool a room, that can be the problem.

Vergille Hell · Aug 16, 2014

Kaileb Wyatt :

Everyone is saying it's my air conditioner's fault --- i also beleive it is.
But i need buy a new PCI, can anyone recommend which can go with my air cond.

--- or the precautions would also help .
Or i need to buy a new Air cond. which is pretty expensive -_-

JackNaylorPE · Aug 16, 2014

Air conditioning removes condensation from the air. That condensation is turned into water on the coils of the AC , drips onto the pan and exits at the drawn at the back of the AC. Condensation occurs when the humidity in the warm air "condenses" on a cold object. Condensation does not occur on warmer objects.

You see this on windows in the winter ..... when warm inside air condenses on cold windows. Also take a cold glass of ice tea, can of beer whatever and put it on a table and you see droplets of condensation forming on the cold surface. OTOH, have you ever seem water droplets form on the outside of a hot cup of coffee ? Heat increases the air's ability to hold more water. Cold decreases air's ability to hold water, so air near the cold surface will cause that moisture in the moisture to 'fall out" of the air into the cold surface

In a PC, the only time I have seen this happen is when using:

1. Dry Ice cooling
2. LN2 Cooling
3. Water cooling using "below ambient" water source.

In your PC, if the PC is ON, then the components will be hotter than the air in the room, therefore, no condensation.....if the PC is off, then the components will be in the same temperature as in the room, therefore condensation can not occur.

In fact one of the ways to remove moisture from an electronic object is to put it in the refrigerator. I have resurrected a dozen or so phones from death after they were dropped in or they got thrown in a pool, simply by putting in a fridge overnight.

The only way your AC could be a culprit here is if it's uninstalled improperly and mounted above your PC. Condensation can occur on the cold coils / heat exchanger and when it drips onto the pan, if the unit is installed tilted forward rather than back, it would drip inside the house.

Vergille Hell · Aug 17, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

Air conditioning removes condensation from the air. That condensation is turned into water on the coils of the AC , drips onto the pan and exits at the drawn at the back of the AC. Condensation occurs when the humidity in the warm air "condenses" on a cold object. Condensation does not occur on warmer objects.

You see this on windows in the winter ..... when warm inside air condenses on cold windows. Also take a cold glass of ice tea, can of beer whatever and put it on a table and you see droplets of condensation forming on the cold surface. OTOH, have you ever seem water droplets form on the outside of a hot cup of coffee ? Heat increases the air's ability to hold more water. Cold decreases air's ability to hold water, so air near the cold surface will cause that moisture in the moisture to 'fall out" of the air into the cold surface

In a PC, the only time I have seen this happen is when using:

1. Dry Ice cooling
2. LN2 Cooling
3. Water cooling using "below ambient" water source.

In your PC, if the PC is ON, then the components will be hotter than the air in the room, therefore, no condensation.....if the PC is off, then the components will be in the same temperature as in the room, therefore condensation can not occur.

In fact one of the ways to remove moisture from an electronic object is to put it in the refrigerator. I have resurrected a dozen or so phones from death after they were dropped in or they got thrown in a pool, simply by putting in a fridge overnight.

The only way your AC could be a culprit here is if it's uninstalled improperly and mounted above your PC. Condensation can occur on the cold coils / heat exchanger and when it drips onto the pan, if the unit is installed tilted forward rather than back, it would drip inside the house.

What a reply

----- thanks man
My air condition is pretty old -- i was thinking of buying a new PCI -- with the same price range as MSI Gtx 760 TF
Can u recommend me one? Do u have anything in mind?

smeezekitty · Aug 17, 2014

What do you mean by PCI?

Vergille Hell · Aug 18, 2014

smeezekitty :

Sorry,
it's graphics card

smeezekitty · Aug 18, 2014

For the same price you can either get another 760 or a Radeon R9-280: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202099
In any case I would avoid MSI

JackNaylorPE · Aug 20, 2014

Vergille Hell :

Well, like I say, MSI had nothing to do with water shorting out something on ya PC. Maybe had a cold brewski or coke sitting on top of ya case and the hot air exhausting thru the top or just humidity in the room condensed on the cold can / glass and dripped into PC ?

Looking at Techpowerup..... and didn't realize this till just now, but it looks like MSI completed a sweep ..... (I looked for reviews for Asus, MSI, Gigabyte and EVGA)

MSI gets the highest rating (9.9) for the 780 Ti .... Asus, EVGA etc top out at 9.5
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_Ti_Gaming/29.html

MSI gets the highest rating (9.5) for the 780 .... Asus, EVGA, Gigabyte etc top out at 9.4
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_780_TF_Gaming/31.html

MSI gets the highest rating (9.8) for the 770 .... Asus, Gigabyte etc top out at 9.6
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_770_TF_Gaming/31.html

MSI gets the highest rating (9.2) for the 760 .... Asus, tops out at 9.1
http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GeForce_GTX_760_TF_Gaming/32.html

On the red team, the 760 sits between the 280 and 280x. For the 280, the core clocks are

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=280&N=-1&isNodeId=1

Sapphire - 850
Asus - 874
MSI - 933
XFX - 933
Gigabyte - 950

If ya don't mind the noise, the Gigabyte is the fastest .... MSI is the quietest

Vergille Hell · Aug 27, 2014

thank u all for the replies --- i really appreciate it

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