4K vs Ultrawide Monitor :3
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HaiImNew
August 9, 2014 6:23:23 AM
I think there is only 1 4k monitor on the market that is not internally presented to the graphics drivers as 2 smaller monitors. This leads to many issues in gaming. Last I read, 4K was not yet ready for prime-time.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pq321q-4k-gaming,36...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pq321q-4k-gaming,36...
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Ultrawide won't even challenge one 780ti to 60fps on Ultra, UHD will make your settings go to medium or high to get a good fps.
So if you already have two of those beast cards i would buy something that could give them a challenge, like a UHD monitor would.
These is a huge difference on the size of everything on your monitor, everything on the desktop will be in ant-size. So you should remember to use a scale of maybe 125% or more i would say.
So if you already have two of those beast cards i would buy something that could give them a challenge, like a UHD monitor would.
These is a huge difference on the size of everything on your monitor, everything on the desktop will be in ant-size. So you should remember to use a scale of maybe 125% or more i would say.
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August 9, 2014 6:47:27 AM
HaiImNew said:
So..... I Recently bought a Pc Build with 2 780 tis in SLI :3 and still deciding what monitor to buy, Should I get a 4k Monitor or an ultrawide monitor?will I notice much of a difference from 1080p to 4K?
The best option, IMHO, for 2x 780Ti, considering their capability and the requirements of modern games, is a 2560x1440 monitor.
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August 9, 2014 6:54:45 AM
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August 9, 2014 7:02:55 AM
HaiImNew said:
would 2 780 tis be able to support 2 1440p monitors?Technically, two 780Tis can run up to 6 1440p monitors. Although due to the high pixel count, two 780Tis won't be able to handle a game being run on even just two of them. Two 1440p monitors have a total pixel count greater than 4K.
Edit: If you want multiple monitors, then going with 3x 1080p monitors for Nvidia Surround would be better than 2x 1440p monitors.
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HaiImNew said:
So..... I Recently bought a Pc Build with 2 780 tis in SLI :3 and still deciding what monitor to buy, Should I get a 4k Monitor or an ultrawide monitor?will I notice much of a difference from 1080p to 4K?
The best option, IMHO, for 2x 780Ti, considering their capability and the requirements of modern games, is a 2560x1440 monitor.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gtx-780-ti-sli-gef...
stock cards, running at 35-40fps on Ultra/very high settings so high/medium is no problem for 780ti SLI.
1440p is though also recommendable but even that seems a bit low for this setup, it's like the ultra wide 1080p, really only needs 1 card to run Ultra in anything.
EDIT: multi-monitor gaming is really only recommendable if you play alot of racing games, for FPS and other types it's more of a bling factor, since many FPS's actually stretch the outer two monitors, making your perspective very wierd (games like Battlefield does this stretch-thing)
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Hey again!
I got a 4k (Asus 28" 144Hz 1ms) with my 1 GPU (R9 290) and 4790k setup, and I have absolutely no issues with it.
2 way SLI 780 Ti would just be great to go with 4k.
I disagree with Player2, ONE 780 Ti can easily handle 1440p, its not at all a challenging task to handle 2 1440p with 2 way SLI.
Yeah the text would be smaller, but other than that no issues.
Don't consider FHD with what you have, 1440p is the least you should desire. I'd still say 4k is the best here.
If you need multiple displays, 2 1440p will suffice, or 3 FHD as 3 1440p may be overkill and utterly expensive.
Hope it helps, all the best!
I got a 4k (Asus 28" 144Hz 1ms) with my 1 GPU (R9 290) and 4790k setup, and I have absolutely no issues with it.
2 way SLI 780 Ti would just be great to go with 4k.
I disagree with Player2, ONE 780 Ti can easily handle 1440p, its not at all a challenging task to handle 2 1440p with 2 way SLI.
Yeah the text would be smaller, but other than that no issues.
Don't consider FHD with what you have, 1440p is the least you should desire. I'd still say 4k is the best here.
If you need multiple displays, 2 1440p will suffice, or 3 FHD as 3 1440p may be overkill and utterly expensive.
Hope it helps, all the best!
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August 9, 2014 7:39:17 AM
NiCoM said:
Anonymous said:
HaiImNew said:
So..... I Recently bought a Pc Build with 2 780 tis in SLI :3 and still deciding what monitor to buy, Should I get a 4k Monitor or an ultrawide monitor?will I notice much of a difference from 1080p to 4K?
The best option, IMHO, for 2x 780Ti, considering their capability and the requirements of modern games, is a 2560x1440 monitor.
http://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/gtx-780-ti-sli-gef...
stock cards, running at 35-40fps on Ultra/very high settings so high/medium is no problem for 780ti SLI.
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August 9, 2014 7:52:29 AM
MeteorsRaining said:
Hey again!I got a 4k (Asus 28" 144Hz 1ms) with my 1 GPU (R9 290) and 4790k setup, and I have absolutely no issues with it.
2 way SLI 780 Ti would just be great to go with 4k.
I disagree with Player2, ONE 780 Ti can easily handle 1440p, its not at all a challenging task to handle 2 1440p with 2 way SLI.
Secondly, you said "ONE 780 Ti can easily handle 1440p". "Handle" is a subjective term. I myself run my overclocked 780Ti at 1440p res, and I get 60fps fine in most games, as long as I forego antialiasing. Then there are games like Crysis 3, where even at 1080p you would need to tone down settings to achieve a consistent 60fps. Even for Far Cry 3, at 1440p, you have to make a compromise on graphic settings. Now considering that the future games coming in the next couple of years would push the PC even farther than FC3 or Crysis 3, it would be unfair to recommend a graphics system to someone that is already just barely holding on.
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My bad, 60Hz rate, apologies for that.
http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB287Q/
He has 2 way SLI, that would do it, no doubts on that. even if 4K takes up 1 whole card, then there's one more completely free for computing the graphics, and I know its not like that. 6 GB, 336 GB/s is enough for 4k Ultra gaming at 40-50FPS if I can do with single R9 290 4K high-ultra 45-55 FPS.
http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB287Q/
He has 2 way SLI, that would do it, no doubts on that. even if 4K takes up 1 whole card, then there's one more completely free for computing the graphics, and I know its not like that. 6 GB, 336 GB/s is enough for 4k Ultra gaming at 40-50FPS if I can do with single R9 290 4K high-ultra 45-55 FPS.
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August 9, 2014 8:09:29 AM
MeteorsRaining said:
My bad, 60Hz rate, apologies for that. http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB287Q/
He has 2 way SLI, that would do it, no doubts on that. even if 4K takes up 1 whole card, then there's one more completely free for computing the graphics, and I know its not like that. 6 GB, 336 GB/s is enough for 4k Ultra gaming at 40-50FPS if I can do with single R9 290 4K high-ultra 45-55 FPS.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pq321q-4k-gaming,36...
Edit: If one MUST go 4K with Nvidia GPUs at this point, then at least look for ones with the G-Sync feature.
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780 Ti has 3 GB VRAM, 2 of them will have 6 GB combined, whats the confusion there?
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Ultra-high 60+ FPS on many games:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_gef...
Crysis 3, BF4, Metro Last Light Ultra-Very High settings, all getting 35-45 FPS:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_gef...
Also, Multiplayer gaming is very CPU intensive too, maybe a weak CPU?
I hope I'm clear. My BF4 on 4k gets 35-45 FPS on ultra and 35-45 FPS on high settings Multiplayer, look at my sig.

Ultra-high 60+ FPS on many games:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_gef...
Crysis 3, BF4, Metro Last Light Ultra-Very High settings, all getting 35-45 FPS:
http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_gef...
Also, Multiplayer gaming is very CPU intensive too, maybe a weak CPU?
I hope I'm clear. My BF4 on 4k gets 35-45 FPS on ultra and 35-45 FPS on high settings Multiplayer, look at my sig.
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Anonymous said:
MeteorsRaining said:
My bad, 60Hz rate, apologies for that. http://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/PB287Q/
He has 2 way SLI, that would do it, no doubts on that. even if 4K takes up 1 whole card, then there's one more completely free for computing the graphics, and I know its not like that. 6 GB, 336 GB/s is enough for 4k Ultra gaming at 40-50FPS if I can do with single R9 290 4K high-ultra 45-55 FPS.
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/pq321q-4k-gaming,36...
Edit: If one MUST go 4K with Nvidia GPUs at this point, then at least look for ones with the G-Sync feature.
Screen tearing is a totally normal thing for games to have, number of players that actually use the v-sync feature is getting an even bigger con than the 10-15fps loss, they lose a bucketload of response, since v-sync makes a frame take longer time to reach the display.
For the games you mentioned They're all AMD supported titles.. And the gpu masterrace won't allow the competitor to do well in their titles.. (FarCry 3 & Crysis 3)
turning down the settings to high to get a 60fps framerate is also going to eliminate some tearing, which is probably the most desirable thing to do.
So would still recommend a 4K display, yes it will max out the VRAM but only just.
And to MetorsRaining:
I have a R9 290 myself, also considered buying the ASUS PB287Q like you have (i pressume since it's the only 4K 60hz ASUS monitor)
Could you PM me your experience with this monitor + card? Mostly FPS in games and how crisp the display is. Thanks
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August 9, 2014 8:47:20 AM
MeteorsRaining said:
780 Ti has 3 GB VRAM, 2 of them will have 6 GB combined, whats the confusion there?Quote:
Ultra-high 60+ FPS on many games:Quote:
Crysis 3, BF4, Metro Last Light Ultra-Very High settings, all getting 35-45 FPS:Quote:
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August 9, 2014 9:04:24 AM
NiCoM said:
Screen tearing is a totally normal thing for games to have, number of players that actually use the v-sync feature is getting an even bigger con than the 10-15fps loss, they lose a bucketload of response, since v-sync makes a frame take longer time to reach the display.Quote:
For the games you mentioned They're all AMD supported titles.. And the gpu masterrace won't allow the competitor to do well in their titles.. (FarCry 3 & Crysis 3)-
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Quote 1: I still doubt what you mean by 3GB, I know 1 780 Ti= 3GB VRAM. But then 2 x that card = 3GB+ 3GB = 6GB total COMBINED memory for the rig isn't it?
Quote 2: You can never be future proof this way. There's something called high and very high settings which NiCom explained.
Quote 3: Well then what do you suggest? 2X 1440p? single 1440p? You won't really enjoy having 2k with a 3k setup lol(pun intended). Switch to very high and you get 40+ FPS V sync off with less tearing. Again its explained by NiCom.
Quote 4: Sorry I couldn't get what you said, I hope you meant lack of compatibility between us. I meant there that games like BF4 take lots from the CPU in multiplayers.
Quote 2: You can never be future proof this way. There's something called high and very high settings which NiCom explained.
Quote 3: Well then what do you suggest? 2X 1440p? single 1440p? You won't really enjoy having 2k with a 3k setup lol(pun intended). Switch to very high and you get 40+ FPS V sync off with less tearing. Again its explained by NiCom.
Quote 4: Sorry I couldn't get what you said, I hope you meant lack of compatibility between us. I meant there that games like BF4 take lots from the CPU in multiplayers.
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August 9, 2014 9:22:53 AM
MeteorsRaining said:
Quote 1: I still doubt what you mean by 3GB, I know 1 780 Ti= 3GB VRAM. But then 2 x that card = 3GB+ 3GB = 6GB total COMBINED memory for the rig isn't it?You know what, repeating the same things over and over again is getting tedious now. I believe enough information has been provided here for the OP to make his decision. I'm sorry but I'm done here.
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Bottom line of all this:
if you're going for a 1440p or ultra-wide 1080p monitor, you should sell one of the cards in the process, since that only requires one card to run ultra and the secound card would just fill in unnessecary extra frames and heat.
or go for a 4K display, (there's around 5-6 monitors out at decent pricing which would do you well in gaming), that would actually use the whole potential of your SLI setup..
I know know PlayerTwo called that his overclocked 780TI couldn't run maxed 1440p in some AMD optimized titles, though those titles doesn't look bad at all on High settings (mostly Crysis 3 where you can compare medium to high in other games, and high to ultra and so on).
Personally i would go for the 4K because of the setup (as you could hear in above text), i don't consider 3 screens an option because they're only really a help in racing games, a hardware youtuber made this clear with his 3x1080p setup (JayzTwoCents). Hardware is slowly beginning their march towards 4K gaming and in 2-3 years time where you're maybe considering upgrading to a gpu that runs 4K ultra in titles of that time, you'll be happy you didn't go for the old high-pixel monitor but rather the new standard (in the future ofc).
if you're going for a 1440p or ultra-wide 1080p monitor, you should sell one of the cards in the process, since that only requires one card to run ultra and the secound card would just fill in unnessecary extra frames and heat.
or go for a 4K display, (there's around 5-6 monitors out at decent pricing which would do you well in gaming), that would actually use the whole potential of your SLI setup..
I know know PlayerTwo called that his overclocked 780TI couldn't run maxed 1440p in some AMD optimized titles, though those titles doesn't look bad at all on High settings (mostly Crysis 3 where you can compare medium to high in other games, and high to ultra and so on).
Personally i would go for the 4K because of the setup (as you could hear in above text), i don't consider 3 screens an option because they're only really a help in racing games, a hardware youtuber made this clear with his 3x1080p setup (JayzTwoCents). Hardware is slowly beginning their march towards 4K gaming and in 2-3 years time where you're maybe considering upgrading to a gpu that runs 4K ultra in titles of that time, you'll be happy you didn't go for the old high-pixel monitor but rather the new standard (in the future ofc).
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