CPU help choosing needed.
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callumad
August 9, 2014 6:28:12 AM
I currently have an Intel i5-2300 2.8Ghz processor, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, and an XFX R7950 DD 3GB GDDR5 graphics card. My motherboard only has a 1155, cpu socket so I can't get one of the new fourth generation CPUs so my question is, is it worth upgrading from my i5-2300 to an i5-3570k? And will it make much of a difference to my gaming experience? Thank you. or are there any better 1155 cpus you can recommend for gaming?
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I currently have an Intel i5-2300 2.8Ghz processor, 8GB of DDR3 RAM, and an XFX R7950 DD 3GB GDDR5 graphics card. My motherboard only has a 1155, cpu socket so I can't get one of the new fourth generation CPUs so my question is, is it worth upgrading from my i5-2300 to an i5-3570k? And will it make much of a difference to my gaming experience? Thank you. or are there any better 1155 cpus you can recommend for gaming?In more cpu intensive games, then moving to the 3570k will make some difference(you'll need to evaluate what games you play). You obviously get a speed bump with the 3570k and even bigger if you overclock(no other reason to get the K version unless you plan on overclocking). Is the difference going to be earth shattering, definitely not.
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Yes, it'd be a good boost from the 2300, courtesy 3570k's 3.4GHz Clock and OC-ability.
There's the Intel Core i7-3770K with better clock speed, hyper threading, more cache, but its $100 more, which really ain't worth it. You may want to spend those $100 on getting a Z97/87 MoBo with L1150 chipset and a i5 4690k.
Yes the 3570K is a very good CPU if you don't wish to replace your MoBo, though I don't see a reason why not.
Not going out of the topic, the 3570K can OC to about 4.2GHz if the MoBo is Z. And its a good CPU, no real bad remarks, its just that its old, nothing else really. Its a bit overpriced that's true.
There's the Intel Core i7-3770K with better clock speed, hyper threading, more cache, but its $100 more, which really ain't worth it. You may want to spend those $100 on getting a Z97/87 MoBo with L1150 chipset and a i5 4690k.
Yes the 3570K is a very good CPU if you don't wish to replace your MoBo, though I don't see a reason why not.
Not going out of the topic, the 3570K can OC to about 4.2GHz if the MoBo is Z. And its a good CPU, no real bad remarks, its just that its old, nothing else really. Its a bit overpriced that's true.
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Tough question!
The I5-3570K would be a fairly solid upgrade from an i5-2300. That's a 600mhz boost to the base clock rate, and some computational improvements on top of that. I would say that you would experience a perceivable difference in performance, definitely notable in some cases. Would the upgrade be worth an additional $230 bucks, that's something I'm not sure of - but that's a decision for you.
What motherboard do you have? (Would it support some decent overclock? If so, then I'd feel safe throwing my lot in with the upgrade.)
The I5-3570K would be a fairly solid upgrade from an i5-2300. That's a 600mhz boost to the base clock rate, and some computational improvements on top of that. I would say that you would experience a perceivable difference in performance, definitely notable in some cases. Would the upgrade be worth an additional $230 bucks, that's something I'm not sure of - but that's a decision for you.
What motherboard do you have? (Would it support some decent overclock? If so, then I'd feel safe throwing my lot in with the upgrade.)
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Just a insight, the i7 has having eight threads will be more future proof for him because this way he will be able to play the next gen games (multi threaded) without any problem and can lead to try video editing too
Im saying because other way he will not notice a huge difference.
MeteorsRaining, why you say the 3570 is old? Is only one generation behind. It has 22 nm like the Haswell. Haswell is just a Ivy optimized for energy savings. The difference with the 4770 is nothing.
Im saying because other way he will not notice a huge difference.
MeteorsRaining, why you say the 3570 is old? Is only one generation behind. It has 22 nm like the Haswell. Haswell is just a Ivy optimized for energy savings. The difference with the 4770 is nothing.
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callumad
August 9, 2014 6:54:20 AM
callumad said:
I have just discovered that my mobo does not support over clocking, I ant to change my motherboard but I have an OEM copy of Win7 with no installation disk so I have no Idea how to go about changing the motherboard as I refuse to re-buy an OS that I already own. Do not worry about that. Replace your motherboard and contact me PM after that and I will tell you how to fix that.
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I completely agree with you Panda, but my real concern is the price which he pays.
I mean he could get 4690K in that same price. Its not that 3570K is not good, I've made it very clear it indeed is. But we all know that 4690K can very well compete with 3rd gen i7s and even 4770k in gaming.
4690K is very good OCer too. I was just listing the advantages, not demoralizing anyone
If he gets L1150 today, he can upgrade to 4690K which is undoubtedly better. Only if his budget allows.
I mean he could get 4690K in that same price. Its not that 3570K is not good, I've made it very clear it indeed is. But we all know that 4690K can very well compete with 3rd gen i7s and even 4770k in gaming.
4690K is very good OCer too. I was just listing the advantages, not demoralizing anyone
If he gets L1150 today, he can upgrade to 4690K which is undoubtedly better. Only if his budget allows.
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I'm guessing that it's not a Z motherboard given that you currently have a locked processor, so unless i'm wrong the 3570 will perform just as well. As mentioned above, if your playing processor intensive games (Arma, DayZ) you will notice a difference, but if it's GPU intensive (BF series) you won't see a change. But as far as the price (~$200+) being worth the performance increase, it's not really worth it regardless of which games you play. For a maximum 30% increase is some instances over an i5, an i7 definitely won't be worth it for gaming. Even though it's quite a ways off, I'd just wait till Skylake comes out. At least then there might be a significant boost, as even a Haswell Refresh/Broadwell won't make much of a difference.
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callumad
August 9, 2014 6:59:26 AM
PandaBear270 said:
callumad said:
I have just discovered that my mobo does not support over clocking, I ant to change my motherboard but I have an OEM copy of Win7 with no installation disk so I have no Idea how to go about changing the motherboard as I refuse to re-buy an OS that I already own. Do not worry about that. Replace your motherboard and contact me PM after that and I will tell you how to fix that.
That would be brilliant, I checked your profile and you certainly seem to know what you're talking about, Is it a process that would require any preparation beforehand? And Is it always reliable? Thank you very much
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callumad
August 9, 2014 7:03:01 AM
MeteorsRaining said:
Also, the 3770K is $350 which I'd not recommend to him, its not worth it. I was answering the question that 'can I get any better CPUs for L1155' Panda
Yes you can get the i7, but I'd rather get a new MoBo, PM Panda on how to fix the OEM windows issues and enjoy an i5 4690K
I think I will do that I have been looking at the 4790k and I think I will upgrade the MoBo and PM panda for help.
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callumad said:
PandaBear270 said:
callumad said:
I have just discovered that my mobo does not support over clocking, I ant to change my motherboard but I have an OEM copy of Win7 with no installation disk so I have no Idea how to go about changing the motherboard as I refuse to re-buy an OS that I already own. Do not worry about that. Replace your motherboard and contact me PM after that and I will tell you how to fix that.
That would be brilliant, I checked your profile and you certainly seem to know what you're talking about, Is it a process that would require any preparation beforehand? And Is it always reliable? Thank you very much
You just need to run a key finder program like magical jelly bean on your current computer and it will show you the product key for your current install of windows. Write it down and you're good to go.
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callumad
August 9, 2014 7:06:17 AM
byza said:
callumad said:
PandaBear270 said:
callumad said:
I have just discovered that my mobo does not support over clocking, I ant to change my motherboard but I have an OEM copy of Win7 with no installation disk so I have no Idea how to go about changing the motherboard as I refuse to re-buy an OS that I already own. Do not worry about that. Replace your motherboard and contact me PM after that and I will tell you how to fix that.
That would be brilliant, I checked your profile and you certainly seem to know what you're talking about, Is it a process that would require any preparation beforehand? And Is it always reliable? Thank you very much
You just need to run a key finder program like magical jelly bean on your current computer and it will show you the product key for your current install of windows. Write it down and you're good to go.
I have used jelly bean and attained the product key, I have no installation disk though.
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You can download a copy of Windows as Iso, burn it to a disk, then you can install it as any other disk type windows.
It'll ask for key, provide that and you're good to go
And btw the 4790k is a beast CPU, will do you wonders in any game, just name it!
Your GPU is also solid to run any game at high settings with decent 50+ FPS.
It'll ask for key, provide that and you're good to go
And btw the 4790k is a beast CPU, will do you wonders in any game, just name it!
Your GPU is also solid to run any game at high settings with decent 50+ FPS.
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MeteorsRaining said:
You can download a copy of Windows as Iso, burn it to a disk, then you can install it as any other disk type windows.It'll ask for key, provide that and you're good to go
And btw the 4790k is a beast CPU, will do you wonders in any game, just name it!
Your GPU is also solid to run any game at high settings with decent 50+ FPS.
This is what I told him just now, with an extra step to assure activation
And yes, I vote for a nice i5 4690K too.
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PandaBear270 said:
MeteorsRaining said:
You can download a copy of Windows as Iso, burn it to a disk, then you can install it as any other disk type windows.It'll ask for key, provide that and you're good to go
And btw the 4790k is a beast CPU, will do you wonders in any game, just name it!
Your GPU is also solid to run any game at high settings with decent 50+ FPS.
This is what I told him just now, with an extra step to assure activation
And yes, I vote for a nice i5 4690K too.
Haha I was really wondering what secret you gonna share with him about installation and activation w/o disk lol!
Btw, he is considering the i7 4790k, not i5 4690k.
But either of them are good. Lets just refer to them as i5 and i7!
The numbers may create confusion.
The i7 will surely future proof your PC for atleast 2 years with max settings and 5 years on high settings, both with decent 50+ FPS.
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callumad
August 9, 2014 7:25:48 AM
PandaBear270 said:
Pro tip: Consider the Xeon E3 1230 V3 if you want to save some money. Is a 4770 clocked at 3,3 GHz and lacks iGPU but otherwise is identical.But why? They're $240 and have less clock speed, no iGPU and OC is not supported.
The less priced i5 only lacks hyper threading which can be made up by OCing it. I don't see a reason to buy that Xeon over i5 4690k or i7 4790k. Please elaborate why you suggest it?
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The Xeon is a good option for a guy who will multi task and do not overclock. Paired with a cheap B85 motherboard, it will serve as a solid workstation solution. The Xeon also have better fabrication process as is rated for 24/7 business.
An overclockable i5 is good too, but needs expensive Z97 board and third party cooling.
An overclockable i5 is good too, but needs expensive Z97 board and third party cooling.
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