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Should I wait for Broadwell/Skylake? Should I wait for the 800 series? Or should I upgrade NOW?

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August 9, 2014 11:51:05 AM

I'm seriously looking to spend tons of money on a future proof, 4k gaming, status symbol PC.

Budget is somewhere around 11-13k

What I have picked out for now (still debating if I should buy it now or wait for the new releases)

- 4x GTX Titan Black SC
- 4960x
- Rampage IV Black Edition
- 2x 1TB 850 PRO
- 2x Seasonic 1000w Platinum
- Custom EK/Bitspower Waterblocks & Reservoir, Black Ice or XSPC radiators etc..

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August 9, 2014 1:59:44 PM

oh you should wait - definitely. THat way you can have DDR4 and some other bling.
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August 9, 2014 2:10:54 PM

Yes, wait and try to get a i7 octocore with DDR4 if you can afford it.
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August 9, 2014 2:14:49 PM

PandaBear270 said:
Yes, wait and try to get a i7 octocore with DDR4 if you can afford it.


Why just one? His budget will allow for a dual processor build. :) 

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August 9, 2014 2:18:35 PM

Or even 4 Xeons on a server board lol.
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August 9, 2014 11:37:30 PM

PandaBear270 said:
Or even 4 Xeons on a server board lol.


Is it worth upgrading LGA 2011? Will there be broadwell/skylake for LGA 2011?
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August 9, 2014 11:38:12 PM

Karsten75 said:
oh you should wait - definitely. THat way you can have DDR4 and some other bling.


What should I wait for? Whats the ETA of the DDR4??
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August 9, 2014 11:38:50 PM

Also is it better to go with dual AX 1200i or dual Seasonic 1000w?
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August 9, 2014 11:57:16 PM

Wait for the x99 platform and ddr 4 it should be out in like 1-2 months... It should have multiple x16 PCI-e lanes and be faster than anything available to date.

Skylake may be faster but you will probably be waiting a while. I think x99 is going to be solid.
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August 10, 2014 1:30:45 AM

Adroid said:
Wait for the x99 platform and ddr 4 it should be out in like 1-2 months... It should have multiple x16 PCI-e lanes and be faster than anything available to date.

Skylake may be faster but you will probably be waiting a while. I think x99 is going to be solid.


So it's a safe bet to wait for the x99 platform and go with the 4960x?
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August 10, 2014 3:53:43 AM

thenewstoryline said:
Adroid said:
Wait for the x99 platform and ddr 4 it should be out in like 1-2 months... It should have multiple x16 PCI-e lanes and be faster than anything available to date.

Skylake may be faster but you will probably be waiting a while. I think x99 is going to be solid.


So it's a safe bet to wait for the x99 platform and go with the 4960x?


Oops. I accidentally fat-fingered the "select as solution" button when I wanted to respond. I unset it again, but you might have gotten an email notification. Sorry.

Intel is scheduled to announce the X99 chipset, new Haswell-E processors (with 6- and 8-core processors) , improved SATA (SATA Express and M-SATA), as well as DDR4 in September - probably late September if previous indications are anything to go by.

The LGA 2011 boards have quad-channel memory, more PCIe lanes and a few other goodies that LGA 1150 boards can only dream of.

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August 10, 2014 3:01:20 PM

thenewstoryline said:
Adroid said:
Wait for the x99 platform and ddr 4 it should be out in like 1-2 months... It should have multiple x16 PCI-e lanes and be faster than anything available to date.

Skylake may be faster but you will probably be waiting a while. I think x99 is going to be solid.


So it's a safe bet to wait for the x99 platform and go with the 4960x?


I would wait to see if they will release a new CPU in time for the X99 platform, but yes. But whatever CPU is the best option when x99 comes out - it should definitely be faster (at least all the experts are expecting it to be).
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August 10, 2014 4:04:47 PM

Personally, unless we see an eight-core i7, I will not be surprised at all by the platform.

Because another i7 quad core is not going to mean nothing more than a few extra numbers on a benchmark.
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August 10, 2014 5:55:42 PM

PandaBear270 said:
Personally, unless we see an eight-core i7, I will not be surprised at all by the platform.

Because another i7 quad core is not going to mean nothing more than a few extra numbers on a benchmark.



We already know that Haswell-E will have 4 8-core CPUs.

I'm sure this image is somewhere on TOm's as well, just couldn't find it.



All current rumors indicate the due date is Sept 14th, 2014.

ANd as the state of affairs stand now, Intel won't announce earth-shattering performance improvements - they don't have to, since they've got no high-end competition. Intel effectively gained a commanding lead over AMD with the Intel Core architecture and never looked back, performance-wise.

Right now, they see their lunch being eaten by ARM and other SOCs, so they're focusing the majority of their R&D into low-power, low-heat, and integrated graphics.

So all you will see is "a few extra numbers on a benchmark", since even the old Sandy Bridge -Extreme line had 6 cores and were hyper-threading. to 12 threads.
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August 10, 2014 7:34:15 PM

You could even save yourself some money and go with 4x 780 TI's in 4 way SLI. They're better than Titans since they're basically fully unlocked GK 110's with all the CUDA cores available and going to save yourself about $350 per card. As for the upcoming Octacore CPU's thats kind of irrelevant for gaming just like the 4960x X79 platform enthusiast Ivy Bridge. Hyperthreading is 100% pointless for gaming and a 4 core i5 will net you the same exact performance as a $1000 dollar CPU and still not bottleneck your GPU's. Just some things to keep in mind, but looks like money is no object for you so go crazy I guess....Everything I'm saying is probably pointless for someone with as big of wallet as yours.
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August 10, 2014 7:38:21 PM

thenewstoryline said:
Also is it better to go with dual AX 1200i or dual Seasonic 1000w?


With 4 Titans you intend to buy? I'd go 1200 watt or better. Corsair makes a better power supply anyway in my honest opinion. I own the first AX 1200 and runs like a champ. All voltages and current where its supposed to be, and plenty of amps on that 12v rail. Also Corsair has literally some of the best warranties and customer service like...Ever. Most of my components that Corsair makes are in my PC. Unfortunately had a closed loop cooler pump die on me, and Corsair RMA'ed it in a week no lies. Sent me back a brand new one with the plastic wrap still on the box.
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August 10, 2014 9:56:48 PM

PandaBear270 said:
Personally, unless we see an eight-core i7, I will not be surprised at all by the platform.

Because another i7 quad core is not going to mean nothing more than a few extra numbers on a benchmark.


True
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August 11, 2014 5:32:00 AM

thenewstoryline said:
PandaBear270 said:
Personally, unless we see an eight-core i7, I will not be surprised at all by the platform.

Because another i7 quad core is not going to mean nothing more than a few extra numbers on a benchmark.


True


I disagree. Yes, it will give extra numbers on benchmarks, but there are a few real-world instances where applications (and yes a few games) benefit from the extra processing power.

I have seen some fairly convincing evidence that Crysis 3 running maxxed out does reflect higher MINIMUM fps on an i7 over an i5... Keep in mind there are literally only a handful of games that benefit, but the difference can be measureable and noticeable in practice. Do I personally think it's worth the extra 100$ for an i7 over an i5, or 300$ more for a hexa-core? Absolutely not. In addition to the extra money in the processor, I would need to dump another 1000$+ in GPUs to gain any substantial benefit - no thanks.

The other benefits of running a x99 platform are the true quad channel DDR4, and multiple x16 PCIe lanes. In short, the x99 system will have much more bandwidth available. In practice these may not be huge gains with current GPU hardware and software technology, but in time, they will indefinitely be utilized to a much greater potential.

So yes, it will be faster. It might equate to 1-3 fps gains in most games, but in other games that are optimized to use multi threading, I think we will start seeing the largest benefit in multi GPU high end systems, specifically in the MINIMUM fps.
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