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Possible to build a 780ti without bottleneck, for under 1300?

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August 10, 2014 11:07:08 AM

Approximate Purchase Date: e.g.: The next two months is as long as I could wait if needed.

Budget Range: 1300, after rebate

System Usage from Most to Least Important:
MMO gaming, Gaming

Are you buying a monitor: No



Parts to Upgrade: I got a free unopened PSU, http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
But not sure if it is good enough

Do you need to buy OS: No

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: I'm in NY, USA

Location: Buffalo, New York

Parts Preferences: No preference

Overclocking: maybe, if I can stay within budget

SLI or Crossfire: Probably not.

Your Monitor Resolution: 2560 x 1440p

Additional Comments:

And Most Importantly, Why Are You Upgrading: I don't have a desktop PC, need one for gaming, since my MBA is for school.

More about : build 780ti bottleneck 1300

a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 11:49:29 AM

900w is enough for that build. You could build something for that price to run games constant 120frames on a 1080p monitor, but I'm not sure about a 1440p monitor. If you aren't planning on doing much else other than gaming, no need for an i7, get an i5 4690k http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX8... and that will not bottleneck you card unless you plan on getting something like a titan.
before I can give any more advice: are you gonna play at 60 or 120 frames, what games in particular do you want to play, do you plan to do much other than gaming, and if you stay in budget how much overclocking do you plan to do
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August 10, 2014 12:28:42 PM

BigMuffinMan said:
900w is enough for that build. You could build something for that price to run games constant 120frames on a 1080p monitor, but I'm not sure about a 1440p monitor. If you aren't planning on doing much else other than gaming, no need for an i7, get an i5 4690k http://www.amazon.com/Intel-Core-i5-4690K-Processor-BX8... and that will not bottleneck you card unless you plan on getting something like a titan.
before I can give any more advice: are you gonna play at 60 or 120 frames, what games in particular do you want to play, do you plan to do much other than gaming, and if you stay in budget how much overclocking do you plan to do


The OC I would do would probably be VERY minimal, something that wouldn't require changing voltages. When I had a core i5 2500k I OC'd by just changing the clock speed. Something along the lines of that.

As far as games, I spend a majority of my time playing WoW, Diablo 3, X-Com, Torch Light 2, Diablo 2 (lol), Final Fantasy 14 ARR, Metro, The Sim's, The Witcher Series, Divinity: Original Sin, etc.

I like to play on high resolutions and max out games when I play.

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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 12:36:38 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($209.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI H97 GAMING 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($116.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($73.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($638.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.00 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1297.90
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:35 EDT-0400
This would work quite well, you could definitely get something else depending on what you want, but this is a rough idea of a build you could use.

Some things you can do:
1. Get a 4690K with a cheap cooler and a cheap z97 board, and get a cheaper PSU and case.
2. Get an SSD and get a cheaper case and PSU.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 12:44:54 PM

With a 780ti and an i5 4690k you should be able to max out most games at 60frames. You can OC your i5 a little bit if needed. You'll have to cut corners if you want to make it 1300 bucks. Get a z97 mobo and a regular hard drive, you don't have space in your budget for an ssd. Get a psu that's at least 850w. I can't say this will be able to max out Crysis 3 at ultra settings, but most regular games you'll be able to to that. The only game on your list you might not be able to max out and run at 60 frames is Metro, but that game is horribly optimized anyways.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 12:49:32 PM

Really sure you need a 780 ti?

For $1300 would you expect a ssd in it,but with this card you're not going to get it,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Prime SD1484 90.3 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1290.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:38 EDT-0400


With a r9 290 ("X" =possible) would you get more for your money,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Prime SD1484 90.3 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1180.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:44 EDT-0400

for crossfire would 850 imo be enough,but you would have enough money for the next,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g2100...

A more expensive case more to your likings would be possible too.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 12:52:34 PM

Vic 40 said:
Really sure you need a 780 ti?

For $1300 would you expect a ssd in it,but with this card you're not going to get it,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Prime SD1484 90.3 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1290.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:38 EDT-0400


With a r9 290 ("X" =possible) would you get more for your money,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Prime SD1484 90.3 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1180.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:44 EDT-0400

for crossfire would 850 imo be enough,but you would have enough money for the next,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g2100...

A more expensive case more to your likings would be possible too.


That's cause you've gone for a high tier 780 ti, get a mid tier one, get a msi gaming 3, then he can get a ssd.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 12:52:35 PM

Vic 40 said:
Really sure you need a 780 ti?

For $1300 would you expect a ssd in it,but with this card you're not going to get it,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Prime SD1484 90.3 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 650W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1290.41
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:38 EDT-0400


With a r9 290 ("X" =possible) would you get more for your money,

PCPartPicker part list

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($239.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Xigmatek Prime SD1484 90.3 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-GAMING 5 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.99 @ TigerDirect)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($379.99 @ NCIX US)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA 850W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($109.99 @ Newegg)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1180.40
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 15:44 EDT-0400

for crossfire would 850 imo be enough,but you would have enough money for the next,
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-120g2100...

A more expensive case more to your likings would be possible too.


That's cause you've gone for a high tier 780 ti, get a mid tier one, get a msi gaming 3, then he can get a ssd.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 12:56:00 PM

I think Ytyoussef has got the best build picked out for you
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 1:00:38 PM

BigMuffinMan said:
I think Ytyoussef has got the best build picked out for you


Vic 40 said:
legend001523 said:

That's cause you've gone for a high tier 780 ti, get a mid tier one .

Price difference btween the cheapest 780 ti and the one i chose,
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/compare/asus-video-card-g...


I didn't compare it to the asus, you can get a zotac one.

EDIT: why is the zotac so expensive.

But take away the gaming 5, get a gaming 3, then enough money for a ssd and take away cpu cooler
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 1:42:10 PM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($71.74 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1295.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 16:41 EDT-0400
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 1:45:56 PM

Karadjgne said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($71.74 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1295.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 16:41 EDT-0400


You forgot the PSU?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 1:51:01 PM

Ytyoussef said:
Karadjgne said:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14 65.0 CFM CPU Cooler ($71.74 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD3H ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($117.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Superclocked ACX Video Card ($649.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($16.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $1295.65
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 16:41 EDT-0400


You forgot the PSU?


ajsz got a free psu already
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 1:53:04 PM

My bad then, it's actually a pretty decent unit. Tier 2.A on the psu tier list.

This is what I suggest in this case:
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($219.00 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.99 @ Amazon)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($73.95 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($79.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($638.00 @ Newegg)
Case: Fractal Design Define R4 (Titanium Grey) ATX Mid Tower Case ($79.00 @ Newegg)
Total: $1327.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-10 17:01 EDT-0400
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 3:06:08 PM

While for most products i wouldn't blink an eye about Asus products, I own many, in this case we are discussing a @$650 gtx780ti. To my way of thinking, if, forbid, anything was to go wrong with it, I would much prefer to have Evga's #1 rated outstanding service and support, than the dog and pony show Asus sometimes has. Its worth the extra $

I like quiet. So I chose the quietest cooler, even if it is slightly more than op needs (at present hah!) The sniper series ram is lower profile and actually a step up from the already excellent X.
The 'MBA' is for school, this pc is for games, do you really need a SSD? Couldn't hurt, but its easy enough to add anytime, unlike swapping mobos or coolers.

And yes, i actually do read the post. All of it.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 3:16:55 PM

Tell me what the OP can benefit from with the gaming 5 over the gaming 3, tell me why a ssd is less important than a cpu cooler, bear in mind that most people only buy ssds for os, would it be easier now to buy a os and install it in the ssd, and not oc, or get a cpu cooler right now onstead of a ssd, and having to move all of their files when he does get a ssd, tell me why the sniper low profile ram is better than a good old corsair cengeance 1600mhz, tell me why you think asus have bad cards, it's true evga have the best but does that mean no other companies can help you? And you say that adding a ssd is more eay to do in the future, really? By that time the os will need to be moved, so does his steam folder or any games where you just screw in a cpu cooler, is that really that hard to do for you?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 10, 2014 4:57:49 PM

Feeling guilty? Slighted? Offended?
1) never mentioned either of the msi boards, i like msi, i think the gigabyte i chose is the better board, in this case.
2) for major majority of games an ssd is of little to no use, some yes, mostly no.
3) op is using a 780ti, and while not the hottest running card, its still warm. Add to that an oc 125w cpu, which could easily push the 180w limit of a hyper212 evo, especially since op stated he likes MMO's like WoW which are heavy cpu usage, I'd prefer to have a beefier cooler over a faster boot time anyday.
4) g-skill sniper series ram is better binned than the popular, but good, g-skill ripjaws X, as I said. Did I mention the Corsair? Yeah... Not. The sniper is lower profile, and will fit under the nh-d14 cooler I chose, the ripjaws will have probs being taller heatsink.
5) I never made mention at all about Asus having bad cards. I own an Asus gpu, motherboard and 2x monitors. Asus makes some serious quality products. But s hit happens, and if i had a @$650 gpu, I'd rather deal with Evga's service and support. Asus version is not so good.
6) a good 90% of all cpu overheating problems after installing a new cooler can be laid at the feet of the paste. Its either too light, too heavy, not squashed enough from a lightly tightened cooler, over spill from an incorrectly tightened cooler. And cleaning the cpu is a disaster waiting to happen, and it does, frequently. Spills, touching the pins, not cleaning properly, leaving residue etc. Repasting is not for the faint of heart. Cloning a drive? Easy in comparison.

My first computer was a Vic20, then a Commodore 64 with space invaders on an external tape drive. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, you may just want to sit back, relax and get an education instead of spouting crap at people.
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August 10, 2014 5:28:30 PM

I tell ya, I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this but from the games list you gave, you might look into going with an 8350 or something over an intel. It'll be a cheaper processor and that'll open up some options for some other fun toys in the build. I'll post my suggestion in a bit when I'm off work. pcpartpicker doesn't like my phone browser or I'd do it now.
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August 10, 2014 5:51:05 PM

gizzard1987 said:
I tell ya, I'm probably going to get flamed for saying this but from the games list you gave, you might look into going with an 8350 or something over an intel. It'll be a cheaper processor and that'll open up some options for some other fun toys in the build. I'll post my suggestion in a bit when I'm off work. pcpartpicker doesn't like my phone browser or I'd do it now.


That's a good point, depending on the build you might be better off with an 8350 than an i5. Especially if you can OC it, because the fx processors aren't bad at OCing. I am OCing my fx right now about .7ghz over the stock clock and I'm running at 4.2ghz. They get hot, though, so if you do get one get a good aftermarket cpu cooler
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August 10, 2014 5:59:41 PM

Thats not exactly a 1/2 bad idea, and I for one wouldn't flame you lol, but there is one not so good thing going on with AMD right now. Gamers and enthusiasts come in second. AMD is pushing to corner the market of the 'average joe' pc, doing so with APU based pc's, and they'll succeed with pricing the way it is. No 'ifs, ands or buts' about it, AMD is cheaper all around. So gamers come second, AMD had to create their own API, just because they are cut out of nvidia's deal with Microsoft directX, which meant poor performance vrs a similar nvidia card, but they are still working to improve that. Its not that AMD builds a bad product, or has crappy architecture, I personally think they are ahead in that respect, AMD just can't catch a break. The people who fesign games and other software are Intel first and foremost, with AMD coming in second, when you consider that its intel based companies who write their paychecks.

If you want to game, Intel is the better choice, if you just want to play, AMD is the cheaper alternative.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 11, 2014 12:29:34 AM

Karadjgne said:
Feeling guilty? Slighted? Offended?
1) never mentioned either of the msi boards, i like msi, i think the gigabyte i chose is the better board, in this case.
2) for major majority of games an ssd is of little to no use, some yes, mostly no.
3) op is using a 780ti, and while not the hottest running card, its still warm. Add to that an oc 125w cpu, which could easily push the 180w limit of a hyper212 evo, especially since op stated he likes MMO's like WoW which are heavy cpu usage, I'd prefer to have a beefier cooler over a faster boot time anyday.
4) g-skill sniper series ram is better binned than the popular, but good, g-skill ripjaws X, as I said. Did I mention the Corsair? Yeah... Not. The sniper is lower profile, and will fit under the nh-d14 cooler I chose, the ripjaws will have probs being taller heatsink.
5) I never made mention at all about Asus having bad cards. I own an Asus gpu, motherboard and 2x monitors. Asus makes some serious quality products. But s hit happens, and if i had a @$650 gpu, I'd rather deal with Evga's service and support. Asus version is not so good.
6) a good 90% of all cpu overheating problems after installing a new cooler can be laid at the feet of the paste. Its either too light, too heavy, not squashed enough from a lightly tightened cooler, over spill from an incorrectly tightened cooler. And cleaning the cpu is a disaster waiting to happen, and it does, frequently. Spills, touching the pins, not cleaning properly, leaving residue etc. Repasting is not for the faint of heart. Cloning a drive? Easy in comparison.

My first computer was a Vic20, then a Commodore 64 with space invaders on an external tape drive. If you have no idea what I'm talking about, you may just want to sit back, relax and get an education instead of spouting crap at people.


Why would I feel guilty or offended, it's a debate..
1. Firstly, I'll admit, looked at the wrong post, my bad, I apologise
2.Majority? Any games with a map is going to benefit from it, bf4, bf3, or even any campaign which has different sections to load, all of them benefit from a ssd, and you still haven't addressed how the OP is going to transfer their os to their ssd? Do you still think that's easier than mounting a cpu cooler?
3.http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/62733-evga-gefor...
http://www.ocaholic.ch/modules/smartsection/item.php?it...
Even when overclcoked the asus' temps are cooler, how about actually research your theories before you post
them?
And also, the stock is designed to keep the temps under control, tell me where the OP says they will OC straight away? Please, make me laugh and tell me, wow is cpu intensive but with a good quad core like the 4690k, oc is not required, in fact, the OP doesn't need to overclock at all. You just make assumptions that everyone is going to overclock sooner or later
4. No you did not mention the corsair, but, what about the crucial ballistix? it's cheaper than the RAM you listed. So tell me why the OP shouldn't save a few dollars and get your RAM over the crucial ballistix which is cheaper?
5.'Not so good' - I have not really seen any problems related to this card, here
https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=asus+dc+II+780+ti+pro...
6. You literally just squirt a fingertip of it on the middle of the chipset.

No, i have no idea what you're talking about, but you should actually do some research on things you say before you start posting and actually learn to read things properly
The Op asks if it is possible to not bottleneck a 780 ti under 1300 dollars, he didn't say, 'oh and I am definitely going to overclock as soon as I've built the PC'
Any build with a motehrboard that's z97 compatible and has a pcie 3.0 x16 or even 2.0 is fine, and as long as he has a z87 or z97 chipset and 8gb of ram, no bottlenecks are going to be seen. Unless you think having a stock cpu cooler is going to seriously mess his 780 ti up? Or , or.. what about the case???!!!!
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August 11, 2014 2:30:02 AM

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor ($179.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: Asus Sabertooth 990FX R2.0 ATX AM3+ Motherboard ($170.00 @ Amazon)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Storage: Sandisk Ultra Plus 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Matrix Video Card ($739.99 @ Amazon)
Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $1331.92
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-11 04:55 EDT-0400

So here's my suggested build for you amazing 780 ti. I tried to keep you on premium level parts since your main focus is a $700 GPU. I didn't want to skimp anywhere that might make you regret it later on, especially on the theme of this build. This is why I chose one of the best 780 ti's on the market. To all those who bash on Asus customer service, I've never had problems with them, not to mention the ROG product line gets specialized service. I only went with 8 GB of ram because that's something you can order at another time when you've got the extra dough, though 8 GB of ram should be plenty for gaming. I also chose a 1 TB HDD because once again, that's something you can add later on. I made sure there was room for a decent SSD because I know how much of a pain it is to change everything over to a SSD after you've already gotten things situated on a larger one. I went with the Asus Sabertooth mobo because it's going to provide you with tons of expand-ability for years down the road. The Sabertooth will also allow you to overclock when you decide to do so due to its advanced thermal dissipation technologies. I went with a cheaper, yet aesthetically pleasing case from Corsair which has won several award from numerous online reviewers. The Spec-2 has great ventilation and plenty of room for more fans if you so choose and even has support for most water cooling solutions.

I did some research on your PSU for you just to give a little peace of mind. A lot of people on random forums flamed this PSU because it only has an 80+ rating. I found 2 professional reviews that most certainly show otherwise.
http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Topower-PowerBird-900-W-Power-Supply-Review/738/10
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2008/10/07/topower_powerbird_series_power_supplies/1#.U-iDbPldVmM

I hope all this helps. Cheers and Good Luck!
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August 11, 2014 12:00:50 PM

legend001523 said:

look at what I wrote.

I did,your edit came later than my post.

I don't see why the gtx 780 ti should be in this build.The r9 290(X) should do fine on that resolution he wants to play.This saves a lot of money which can be spend on other=better parts.

Haven't seen much posts of the t.s. too so maybe he can some feedback?
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August 11, 2014 9:44:38 PM

ok, seems like you need an education. Lets say the game is BF4. Dude runs through a map, a new section, kills a german officer, objective over. Now, that's all new data, next objective, all new data etc. Nowhere will a SSD help in BF4 other than if that german officer is respawned. That's how SSD's work, data is stored in cache memory to be used repeatedly, but it has to be loaded first. SSD's help somewhat in loading MMO's since every other mob IS a respawn, even the BOSS get respawned, I'd like to see that german officer come back from the dead. SSD not much help in BF4, sorry. Too many unrepeated maps, scenarios, characters. Well mebe some of the tanks are the same mesh. whoopee.

You are an idiot. you are trying to compare 2 different benchmarks, used on 2 different test beds by different standards and you think 1 result means for definite that ASus runs cooler than anyone? Who mentioned Asus at all? Learn to read dude, you already screwed up and read wrong posts, then tried to flame me on it. 780ti's run hot when pushed, its a fact, get over it. 290x's run hotter, that's a fact, get over it.
OC is a hobby, not a necessity, but that said, why would someone buy an unlocked 'K' CPU, pair it with a Z97 motherboard and an aftermarket cooler if they weren't going to OC? maybe I'm stupid and like to overspend for no reason? Of course OP is going to OC sometime, sooner or later, even if its just a little experimental bump in multipliers to 4.2-4.3, wow that was a hard assumption to make.
Crucial Ballistix? are you for real? You honestly trying to compare low binned, 3rd rate Ballistix chips to the High binned, 1st rate chips used in the Sniper series? wow dude, you may want to learn some about ram. Contrary to popular belief, ram is not just ram. Its binned silicon, just like a cpu. That's like saying a fx8300 is just as good as a fx9590, it is after all the same cpu, but way better binned.
If you've never seen an asus gpu go bad, you don't read much, hahahaha.
There is a lot more to pasting and repasting than 'squirting a fingertip', which is wrong btw.
Might want to re-read some stuff, just saying
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August 11, 2014 10:25:54 PM

Please stop and just contribute instead of arguing over silly stuff. This isn't the place for it.
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August 12, 2014 1:49:43 AM

Karadjgne said:
ok, seems like you need an education. Lets say the game is BF4. Dude runs through a map, a new section, kills a german officer, objective over. Now, that's all new data, next objective, all new data etc. Nowhere will a SSD help in BF4 other than if that german officer is respawned. That's how SSD's work, data is stored in cache memory to be used repeatedly, but it has to be loaded first. SSD's help somewhat in loading MMO's since every other mob IS a respawn, even the BOSS get respawned, I'd like to see that german officer come back from the dead. SSD not much help in BF4, sorry. Too many unrepeated maps, scenarios, characters. Well mebe some of the tanks are the same mesh. whoopee.

You are an idiot. you are trying to compare 2 different benchmarks, used on 2 different test beds by different standards and you think 1 result means for definite that ASus runs cooler than anyone? Who mentioned Asus at all? Learn to read dude, you already screwed up and read wrong posts, then tried to flame me on it. 780ti's run hot when pushed, its a fact, get over it. 290x's run hotter, that's a fact, get over it.
OC is a hobby, not a necessity, but that said, why would someone buy an unlocked 'K' CPU, pair it with a Z97 motherboard and an aftermarket cooler if they weren't going to OC? maybe I'm stupid and like to overspend for no reason? Of course OP is going to OC sometime, sooner or later, even if its just a little experimental bump in multipliers to 4.2-4.3, wow that was a hard assumption to make.
Crucial Ballistix? are you for real? You honestly trying to compare low binned, 3rd rate Ballistix chips to the High binned, 1st rate chips used in the Sniper series? wow dude, you may want to learn some about ram. Contrary to popular belief, ram is not just ram. Its binned silicon, just like a cpu. That's like saying a fx8300 is just as good as a fx9590, it is after all the same cpu, but way better binned.
If you've never seen an asus gpu go bad, you don't read much, hahahaha.
There is a lot more to pasting and repasting than 'squirting a fingertip', which is wrong btw.
Might want to re-read some stuff, just saying


I need a education? ahahahah you need to learn how to read. You still haven't addressed the difficulty on whether the Op would have more difficulty screwing in 4 screws for a cpu cooler, or cloning his files for the OS, ssd over cpu cooler any time, you need to get your priorities straight, the first post mentioned asus,.... So tell me then, show me a benchmark in games that your ram beats cheaper 1600mhz ram? Yes, he could OC sooner or later but not as soon as he gets his pc, ocing is not needed even for his processor unless he does it for fun, therefore the stock cooler is fine and a ssd is more important. I even did a search on google for you :)  there were no results to suggest asus make bad gpu's or that their gpu's have problems, whereas a lot of people would say the acx cooler is worse than the reference cooler, do people say that about the DU CII cooler? no. You still haven't addressed the point where I said the Op wanted to know if he won't get bottleneck with a 780 ti under 1300 dollars, so are you saying he can't? And that he has to spend more money? because your build would certainly suggests that
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