Critic my new gaming rig? (1.5K budget)

eNSymbol · Aug 10, 2014

Hey guys, I am a newbie system builder, and would like some insight as to the solidity of my build.

I am a serious gamer, that means I will be looking for the best bang for my buck!

GOAL: To be able to max any game @ 1920 x 1080 res. (And stream/record footage with atleast 60FPS average on same games. BF4. Crysis 3. Ect.)

Budget: 1.5K

I do intend to overclock said parts (ram, cpu, gpu) to get the most performance from my gear, so that's why I included all-in-one watercooling for the cpu, and I would just like an ssd for faster boot/program loadups.(Could use some extra critique on this ssd bit, would an ssd be that useful to a gamer?)

I realize I will probably need some extra fans to help with airflow, please give me some advice on this too.

Any and all help/critiquing would be appreciated, thanks for the help!

PS. I'm sorry for not shortening the names of the components as other people do, like I said I am a novice!

Build:

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139038

Motherboard: http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-Z97MXG5

CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Intel-i7-4790K-Processor-Cache-BX80646I74790K/dp/B00KPRWAX8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407420595&sr=8-1&keywords=intel+cpu

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130933&cm_re=760-_-14-130-933-_-Product

SSD: http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Electronics-EVO-Series-2-5-Inch-MZ-7TE250BW/dp/B00E3W1726

WaterCooling_CPU: http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-Seidon-120V-All-/dp/B00FFCB0BG/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1407624449&sr=1-1&keywords=cpu+watercooling

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231589&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

PSU: http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817152036

GRUxTSAR · Aug 10, 2014

$1500 for PC only or $1500 for everything?

Alpha3031 · Aug 10, 2014

I would get a i5 4690k for ~100 less and a MX100 256 GB SSD for ~30 less. The AIO cooler isn't really going to be much help, you'd probably get more thermal headroom by getting a NH-D14. Finally, I'd get a GTX 770 and a better PSU (Raidmax not recomended https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/p/45344/323055.aspx#323055 )

Note: I doubt you'd be able to 60 FPS@Ultra@1080p
You will not be able to see the difference between 60 FPS and 60+ FPS unless you have a higher refresh rate screen anyway (though you will get tearing)

tiny voices · Aug 10, 2014

Case is too small. Get a 200r at least.

Yes, also get an i5 not an i7, and get rid of that time-bomb PSU in favor of an antec, XFX, Seasonic unit.

Also, get 8gb RAM and change the GPU to a gtx770 with saved money.

GRUxTSAR · Aug 10, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/Kk4MMp

You will max ANY game with 60fps while recording with Nvidia Shadowplay. I saved you $50 so you can choose a better case

tiny voices · Aug 10, 2014

GRUxTSAR :

Personally I would not get that h80i, but otherwise this is a very good build!

GRUxTSAR · Aug 10, 2014

tiny voices :

Well OP had liquid cooling in his original build, so I assumed he wanted some kind of AIO liquid cooler. He can easily change the CPU cooler to anything he wants though

Swordkd · Aug 11, 2014

For 1500 dollars, you should be able to get 60+ FPS in most games on ultra settings. What all parts do you need?

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

GRUxTSAR :

$1500 for the PC only, case/components and what not. I already have externals.

legend001523 · Aug 11, 2014

I would suggest you stick with a i7, Cause you say you will be streaming and recording so the extra cores will come in handy especially as bf4 is very cpu intensive, it will also last longer and i assume you will be rendering if you are recording so the i7 will also help and you can save money by not getting a expensive cpu xooler and just get a noctua instead, and what gpu are you buying, link isn't working for me

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

He said he wants to play at max settings.

An i7 and a gtx 760 will not be maxing and games, but an i5 and a gtx770 will max plenty of games while recording. As long as he is editing for youtube, and not rendering 2 hour HD+ projects, he will not see a difference between the i5 and i7.

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

Alpha3031 :

Could you explain as to why you would rather get these? (ssd: why would that model be cheaper?, cpu: I intend to stream quite a bit, would a downgrade from an i7 to an i5 hurt me in that area? cooler: what benefit would the NH-D14 have over an AIO cooler?

"I doubt you'd be able to 60 FPS@Ultra@1080p." Why would you say that? I was under the impression that $1500 could buy you a great gaming system. Any insight as to what I should change is welcome as always.

As to the monitor statement, do you think it's worth it to upgrade from my 60hz to a 120hz? My goal is to have the best quality/frames possible, and I am willing to go outside of the $1500 limit if a sizable boost in performance is clearly shown.
I am familiar with refresh rates after reading. http://www.tweakguides.com/Graphics_7.html

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

With your original build, you will not max games. The gtx760 simply won't cut it. You NEED a gtx770 to start maxing games. The reason people say to get an i5 is to put more money towards the GPU which will then allow you to max games.

DO NOT get a 120hz monitor unless you have a system that will easily max any game. Basically you need a gtx780 or better.

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/49dbRB
Just buy that and be done. It is as good as yo uwill do. An i7 and a 780. It will max any game and edit/ stream like a champ.

GRUxTSAR · Aug 11, 2014

eNSymbol :

http://pcpartpicker.com/p/34VFmG

The FX 8350 is better for streaming/recording. Big PSU for overclocking and possible future GPU upgrades, and $80 left over for a case of your choice. The 780 ti will max ANY game at 1080p with at least 80-100fps while recording

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

GRUxTSAR :

What was the reason behind the switch from the AIO cooler I provided and the one you have listed here?
With an I5, would I still be able to stream not just record, at 1080p?

2x4 gigs, would I benefit from having16gig? (4x4gigs) I was under the impression that the more ram your system has available, the better quality your stream/recording would be as it can have reserves to draw from if the load because too much to bear.

Now to the graphics card, why that particular model of the gtx 780? why not the GTX 780TI 4G?
And while we're on the topic of graphics cards, would it not be more efficient to purchase two 770's or 760's which are cheaper, and sli them up? I know cooling and powerdraw would be increased but there are always fans for the first one.

Last but not least the case. Would the case that I provided be able to house everything comfortably?
As tiny voices said, the case I provided would be too small to house everything, do you concur?

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

Look at the link I posted and buy that. It has an i7 and a gtx780. That is as good as it gets. Just buy it and be done.

GRUxTSAR · Aug 11, 2014

eNSymbol :

GRUxTSAR :

What was the reason behind the switch from the AIO cooler I provided and the one you have listed here?
With an I5, would I still be able to stream not just record, at 1080p?

2x4 gigs, would I benefit from having16gig? (4x4gigs) I was under the impression that the more ram your system has available, the better quality your stream/recording would be as it can have reserves to draw from if the load because too much to bear.

Now to the graphics card, why that particular model of the gtx 780? why not the GTX 780TI 4G?
And while we're on the topic of graphics cards, would it not be more efficient to purchase two 770's or 760's which are cheaper, and sli them up? I know cooling and powerdraw would be increased but there are always fans for the first one.

Last but not least the case. Would the case that I provided be able to house everything comfortably?
As tiny voices said, the case I provided would be too small to house everything, do you concur?

I just made a new partslist for you that should be in the comments here

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

GRUxTSAR :

eNSymbol :

I just made a new partslist for you that should be in the comments here

I was managing two little brothers while I was replying, thanks for all the info!
I am going over the two builds with some friends, will reply in a bit.

Thankyou everybody for your input and time!

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

GRUxTSAR5's build (I revised it, took out a few things I did not need.) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/2MHWJx $1305.66
tiny voices's biold (same changes as above, I also took out the case for comparing) http://pcpartpicker.com/p/DgfdGX $1212.43

Could I get some insight as to why you said the AMD FX-8350 4.0GHz 8-Core Processor would be better in this case? I mean a 100+ drop in price must be for something other than just brand right?

I would also appreciate some case suggestions to house the whole thing. Thanks!

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

It will not game nearly as well as the i7 in pretty much all places. There will be a difference.

Also, if you are only playing at 1080p, the 780ti is a big waste. The normal 780 is plenty.

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

Thanks everyone for the help, but I have decided to go with tiny voices' recommendation.
On a closing note, would you be able to link me to a case you would suggest with this build?

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

Something like a Corsair 500r or NZXT Phantom 410 would be great for this build.

eNSymbol · Aug 11, 2014

Thanks for the help everyone, I've decided to go with the following.

CASE: http://www.ncix.com/detail/corsair-carbide-series-500r-mid-tower-c6-62757-1248.htm

CPU: http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117369&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

COOLER http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1683570902

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231468&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

SSD: http://www.ncix.com/detail/samsung-840-evo-series-mz-7te120bw-55-87760-1248.htm

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487002&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

MB: http://www.newegg.com/global/au/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128711&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=

PSU: http://www.ncix.com/detail/xfx-650w-pro650w-core-edition-ab-59616-1248.htm

tiny voices · Aug 11, 2014

If you get a 780ti, get a 750w PSU. I recommend only a 780, as there is NO difference between them at 1080p. ONLY get the 780ti if you play on 3 monitors or at WELL over 1080p on one monitor.

Also, you will need a HDD in addition to the SSd.

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