Why do video games stutter when loading

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Before anyone says it may be my rig, after 2 weeks of testing and such, i've determined its not.

Why do a majority of games stutter when loading things in, regardless of rigs power, settings and wether or not they run off an SSD or HDD?

Mainly on the fly loading games like mmo's and open world games, they just stutter entering new zones, its terrible, happens rather frequently on many games and drives me insane, my rig should crush the games no problem.

i7 2600 @ 3.4ghz, 8gb RAM, nvidia 680 2gb power edition.

Arkham City, TERA, Skyrim.

I do adjustments to make them not as bad but its beyond annoying, as ive noticed it on other peoples rigs and if i put the games on my ssd or not it doesnt matter, every game just stutters when loading new things, framerate drops quickly below 60 to a low value then right back up 0.5 seconds time.
 
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The i7-2600 is a pretty good chip.
To test if your stuttering is sensitive to individual core speeds:
In windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.
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Going from 60fps to 59fps is a stutter?

I'll assume that was a typo and ask, have you tried different drivers? While running skyrim I would run the "skyrim performance monitor" its a pretty decent program and might help out a bit. (in skyrim loading screens are set to 30fps so when testing its normal to see drops of 30fps when at a loading screen)
 
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Fraps shows 59, but it's definately a larger very split drop, happens in a bunch of games that load on the fly, and has nothing to do with my rig after weeks of looking into it.
It wasnt a typo.
Skyrim i fixed the problem to make it a lot better, same with bioshock infinite, but just most games stutter for a tiny split second when loading things, and its not my computer or drives as this is now a fresh install and ive tested every part and seen it on 3 other friends rigs.
 
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What adjustments are you making that make the stuttering not so bad?
That would be a clue to me as to the cause.

What are the things that you are loading?

As a counter intuitive thought, see what happens if you disable hyperthreading.
Hyperthreads are 1/4 the speed of a normal thread. If your task gets dispatched on a hyperthread, it will take much longer to complete.
 
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Hyper Threading is disabled

The fixes for Skyrim were a few ini tweaks, the fixes to arkham to make it better was increasing the poolsize, same with Bioshock, the unreal engine is used mostly by incompetent developers who dont seem to understand how to port to the platform they develop on.

 
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It isnt the fact it drops to 59, it's the fact that when loading new areas it drops really low, but only shows as 59, or 58 on fraps, in which point the game locks up for 0.5 of a second and then starts again.
 
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I cant stand this anymore its making all my games unplayable and im close to throwing away the rig as its a great rig yet cant play any games? and its not my rigs fault, i've tried every fix known to man and upgraded it a fuckton in the span of two weeks, this is stupid.
 
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Perhaps a video might help us understand what you are seeing? Also adaptive v-sync?
 
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Have you tried it? Anytime vsync drops down from 60fps (such as when your loading things in) it goes down to 30fps. Perhaps just try no v-sync at all?
 
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The i7-2600 is a pretty good chip.
To test if your stuttering is sensitive to individual core speeds:
In windows power management, limit the maximum cpu% to something like 70%.
Go to control panel/power options/change plan settings/change advanced power settings/processor power management/maximum processor state/
This will simulate what a lack of cpu power will do.
Conversely what a 30% improvement in core speed might do.
 
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I am certain it is.
But, by REDUCING the cpu power you can get some idea if lack of cpu power is causing your problem.

In a same vein, disabling one core will tell you if adding more cores will be helpful(I predict not)

Normally, the amount of Vram in a graphics card is not that important.
But, I hear that skyrim, particularly with mods can be very vram intensive.
When the graphics card needs something that is not in vram, it needs to load it across the pcie interface.
This is one place where pcie 3.0 may be better than 2.0.
Also, if your system ram is at all limited the vram contents may need to be loaded from your ssd or hard drive.
That might be a good case for 16gb of system ram.

 
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I see what you mean.

I noticed TERA runs on Unreal 3 engine aswell, and id like to add all these stuttering problems only ever occur on Unreal Engine games, and a few non unreal games rarely (watch dogs but thats ubisoft and a global issue, skyrim which i fixed with ini tweaks)

Usually increasing the poolsize helps me on unreal but TERA doesnt seem to take that from the baseengine file like normal, oh well guess another game i cant play.
 
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Yeah tera can be more or less crossed off the list. Nothing I do will make that game playable at > 25fps. Terrible optimization.

Do the stutters show up in benchmark applications?
 
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Not unless it loads another chunk. so in most instances no, infact unreal games and watch dogs/far cry 3 are the only games that suffer this problem.
Also The Secret World, and Fallen Earth, but those MMO's are dead and have had problems since launch.

Yea, Tera suffers the same problem, the unreal texture streaming makes it a heck of a lot more laggy at times and then shoots the fps back up./

Gonna try Guild Wars 2 latera s a friend got me a copy, hopefully that'll run well.

Also WoW never had this problem for me.
 
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i have loading stutters too in unreal engine games like batman arkham city , origins & bioshock
increasing poolsize doesn't help because the game calculate it automatically
did you manage to fix it ?!
 
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I get the exact same stutter too!!! help us please!!! its not the hardware and I re-installed windows many times and ran games on fresh install.. even 1 fps drops can cause stutter
 
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