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I get more FPS with intel graphics than with my Nivida?

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  • MicroVolts
  • Intel
  • Lag
  • Intel Graphics Card 4600
  • Graphics
  • FPS
  • Nvidia
  • Graphics Cards
  • GT 750M
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August 11, 2014 1:38:52 PM

I play a game called Microvolts and I use the Intel graphics card 4600 (because it was auto-selected) and when I switched it to the high performance Nvida processor it gives me more stutter, extreme drops, and overall a worse experience. Can someone help me?
I get over 100 steady fps with Intel 4600 but I am unable to even play 1280x720 with the GT 750M GPU without it jumping down to 60 back up to 100 and sinking to 30-50, etc.
I have a lenovo y510p, GPU = GT 750M...

I tried re installing the Graphics Card and still nothing.
I am able to run counter strike at 1280x720 with absolutely no lag at all with the fps staying consistent at 100.
I don't understand how the Intel provides me with more FPS than the Nvidia?
And this game doesn't even require much graphics either...

More about : fps intel graphics nivida

a b U Graphics card
August 11, 2014 1:45:18 PM

Do you have your monitor cable (VGA, DVI) plugged into the GPU or the Motherboard slot on the back of your pc?
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August 11, 2014 1:58:04 PM

He's using a laptop :p 

Use GPU-Z to monitor the two graphics processors and see which is being used.

You may find its already using the 750M by default and when your changing something it bugs it to the built in, but saying that microvolts should run smooth on either chip.
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August 11, 2014 2:10:43 PM

http://prntscr.com/4butm2

I use that to check if it is being used.
When I put it to auto select and choose the Nvidia from the droplist, it shows that it is not in use.
But when I put the preferred processor to Nvidia (global setting) it shows that it is in use BUT it gives me lots of FPS issues.
And I know I can close to max out the settings with the GT 750M, but I don't understand why it gives me FPS issues.
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August 11, 2014 2:13:51 PM

What are the load percentages and clocks at (of the nvidia) when your getting the fps issues? it could be a driver issue
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August 11, 2014 2:34:23 PM

Matt_1 said:
What are the load percentages and clocks at (of the nvidia) when your getting the fps issues? it could be a driver issue


How can I check this?
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August 11, 2014 2:38:41 PM

Using GPU-Z, it should show current clocks in the sensors tab
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August 11, 2014 3:11:12 PM

Matt_1 said:
Using GPU-Z, it should show current clocks in the sensors tab


Could I get a trustful link to where I can download "GPU-Z"?
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August 11, 2014 3:46:06 PM

techpowerup.com has it :) 
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August 13, 2014 4:48:55 PM

Matt_1 said:
What are the load percentages and clocks at (of the nvidia) when your getting the fps issues? it could be a driver issue


Matt_1 said:
techpowerup.com has it :) 


http://prntscr.com/4ckmug
GT 750M

and that is at at 1280x720, though I HAVE to play on 800x600 due to the immense lag spikes I get because the FPS is just jumping up and down...

I can run battlefield 4 1280x720 at high settings with that turning blur motion thingy on ultra and I still get an average of 40-60 FPS which mainly sits at 50 around heavy areas.
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August 14, 2014 2:08:36 AM

Ok, the gpu-z screenshot shows that your 750m is going down to idle clocks while your in game, even so, its only taking about 45% load (from what i can see), so it should be ok, can you get another screenshot of when battlefield 4 is running?
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August 14, 2014 2:43:32 PM

Matt_1 said:
Ok, the gpu-z screenshot shows that your 750m is going down to idle clocks while your in game, even so, its only taking about 45% load (from what i can see), so it should be ok, can you get another screenshot of when battlefield 4 is running?


Alright, seems like Battlefield has changed a lot because now I am getting lag spikes around heavy isolated areas...
http://prntscr.com/4cv7r6
I used to be able run this game on 80 solid fps with the same settings, I don't understand what's going on Dx.

Here is counter strike: (updating)
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August 14, 2014 2:52:25 PM

Well that seems more promising - battlefield is actually using the gpu now :)  but i still see dips in usage, which may or may not correspond to the lag spikes your getting, can you confirm this?
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August 14, 2014 2:55:52 PM

Matt_1 said:
Well that seems more promising - battlefield is actually using the gpu now :)  but i still see dips in usage, which may or may not correspond to the lag spikes your getting, can you confirm this?


http://prntscr.com/4cvd4k
Here is the counter strike at 1920x1080 which doesn't drop below 60 fps around heavy isolated areas.
When I am playing it at 1280x720 I don't drop below 80 FPS, usually resting at 100.

And yes I am getting lag spikes!
How are you able to see dips in usage? I don't really understand this program.
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August 14, 2014 6:27:10 PM

sharksz said:
Matt_1 said:
Well that seems more promising - battlefield is actually using the gpu now :)  but i still see dips in usage, which may or may not correspond to the lag spikes your getting, can you confirm this?


http://prntscr.com/4cvd4k
Here is the counter strike at 1920x1080 which doesn't drop below 60 fps around heavy isolated areas.
When I am playing it at 1280x720 I don't drop below 80 FPS, usually resting at 100.

And yes I am getting lag spikes!
How are you able to see dips in usage? I don't really understand this program.


look at the picture you posted, notice how both "gpu core clock" and "gpu memory clock" are both a straight red line?


Now look at "gpu load" see the white "spikes"? How it is not a straight filled in red line?

Those white spikes means gpu usage is dropping at those moments.

Everytime you get a white "valley" in the red line your gpu is not operating at full performance.
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August 14, 2014 6:40:16 PM

maxalge said:
sharksz said:
Matt_1 said:
Well that seems more promising - battlefield is actually using the gpu now :)  but i still see dips in usage, which may or may not correspond to the lag spikes your getting, can you confirm this?


http://prntscr.com/4cvd4k
Here is the counter strike at 1920x1080 which doesn't drop below 60 fps around heavy isolated areas.
When I am playing it at 1280x720 I don't drop below 80 FPS, usually resting at 100.

And yes I am getting lag spikes!
How are you able to see dips in usage? I don't really understand this program.


look at the picture you posted, notice how both "gpu core clock" and "gpu memory clock" are both a straight red line?


Now look at "gpu load" see the white "spikes"? How it is not a straight filled in red line?

Those white spikes means gpu usage is dropping at those moments.

Everytime you get a white "valley" in the red line your gpu is not operating at full performance.


How can I fix this?
This is a real bummer ;//
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August 16, 2014 1:53:41 AM

Can you get a screenshot of your CPU load alongside the GPU load (use task manager for the cpu load), then we can see what correlates to what
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August 17, 2014 12:59:03 PM

Matt_1 said:
Can you get a screenshot of your CPU load alongside the GPU load (use task manager for the cpu load), then we can see what correlates to what


http://i.imgur.com/IJMDizz.png (Microvolts)

http://i.imgur.com/tgGDoqh.png(Battlefield 4)

From my point of view it seems like the only way to fix this is to send it back and have it replaced...
Sucks because I am going to college this week and will be 5 hours away meaning I probably won't get it back until a month later...
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August 19, 2014 5:26:16 AM

Kinda sounds like maybe your power supply may be going bad, and not feeding your GPU. Happened to my buddies laptop as well. Power supply was trickling power in, but barely, and the GPU would just stop working for very short periods of time. He replaced it, and it's fine again. Even then, he has to play games with it plugged in, or the GPU draws too much power. Worth a shot.
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August 19, 2014 8:46:06 AM

Vellinious said:
Kinda sounds like maybe your power supply may be going bad, and not feeding your GPU. Happened to my buddies laptop as well. Power supply was trickling power in, but barely, and the GPU would just stop working for very short periods of time. He replaced it, and it's fine again. Even then, he has to play games with it plugged in, or the GPU draws too much power. Worth a shot.


I should buy another power supply then?
And what if this is not the case? What should I do then?
I'm going to call lenovo support and tell them about my charger and GPU problem, I doubt they will be able to help regarding graphics Dx

UPDATE: I upgraded my Lenovo Energy Management and I set it to maximum battery life, it is now charging and currently at 62%.
I hope it is a driver problem that is causing this...
Here is a link to the drivers :http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-ne...

I looked around and found the display and video graphics and found this VGA BIOS update which I have no idea what it is? Can someone elaborate?
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August 19, 2014 9:34:19 AM

That's where I would start. If that's not the issue, return it and move on to the next possible solution. Have to start eliminating potential problems somewhere, may as well be the cheapest and easiest first.

Driver updates are always a good idea....always keep the newest drivers for everything. This COULD potentially cause the problems you are experiencing.

As for the bios update, they can be kind of a pita...and if done wrong, will brick your hardware.
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August 19, 2014 10:11:31 AM

Vellinious said:
That's where I would start. If that's not the issue, return it and move on to the next possible solution. Have to start eliminating potential problems somewhere, may as well be the cheapest and easiest first.

Driver updates are always a good idea....always keep the newest drivers for everything. This COULD potentially cause the problems you are experiencing.

As for the bios update, they can be kind of a pita...and if done wrong, will brick your hardware.


Well it is charging fine now, I put it to optimized battery health where it stops at 60%.
The graphics problem still persist...
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August 19, 2014 2:02:37 PM

sharksz said:
Vellinious said:
That's where I would start. If that's not the issue, return it and move on to the next possible solution. Have to start eliminating potential problems somewhere, may as well be the cheapest and easiest first.

Driver updates are always a good idea....always keep the newest drivers for everything. This COULD potentially cause the problems you are experiencing.

As for the bios update, they can be kind of a pita...and if done wrong, will brick your hardware.


Well it is charging fine now, I put it to optimized battery health where it stops at 60%.
The graphics problem still persist...


I told ya what I'd do....troubleshooting is a process of elimination. Ya gotta start somewhere, you just have to decide where.
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August 19, 2014 6:19:27 PM

Vellinious said:
sharksz said:
Vellinious said:
That's where I would start. If that's not the issue, return it and move on to the next possible solution. Have to start eliminating potential problems somewhere, may as well be the cheapest and easiest first.

Driver updates are always a good idea....always keep the newest drivers for everything. This COULD potentially cause the problems you are experiencing.

As for the bios update, they can be kind of a pita...and if done wrong, will brick your hardware.


Well it is charging fine now, I put it to optimized battery health where it stops at 60%.
The graphics problem still persist...


I told ya what I'd do....troubleshooting is a process of elimination. Ya gotta start somewhere, you just have to decide where.


Well I am going to send it in for repairs because even the technician could not verify the problem.
They will be replacing the graphics card is what I was told.
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August 20, 2014 12:37:59 AM

Idk if u got the solution and I didn't read it all so I'll tell one thing

set ur power setting on high performance it may fix ur problem because I get around 120 or more on high performance and 30-50 on balanced and if ur laptop over heat turn ur Vsync on my laptop is I5 2.6GHz NVIDIA 820m or so its 8xxm
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