First Build ca 1200 CAD

elk123

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Hi,

After five years of using the same laptop, I finally want to try to build a PC. I'm either going to buy it in 9 days or one month. I really know nothing about building computers but I did a little bit of research and have come up with a rig that is slightly pricier than I want. Also, I don't really know if the parts are necessary for my needs, so I don't want to pay extra for features that I won't use.

I'd like the computer to be sufficiently powerful enough so that I won't have to play next year's games on low. Ideally, I'd like to play the games that are out now on high in 1080p but I don't know if my price range allows that (I don't want to spend much more than 1200 Canadian dollars and I'd rather not overclock). Video/music editing are also interests of mine but not of primary concern. I have a monitor, mouse, and keyboard. I haven't included that OS (Windows 7 or 8) in my total cost because I am waiting to see if I can get a deal on it from my school.

These are the prices that I've found on newegg.ca after looking up some parts, but honestly, I don't know much about them (especially the psu and the case).

CPU
i5-4690 quad core 3.5 ghz LGA 1150
230$
MOTHERBOARD
GA-Z97X-UD5H LGA 1150
190$
GRAPHICS
AXR9 280X 3gb
330$
RAM
G.SKILL 4GB DDR3 (2 of them)
89$
PSU
CORSAIR RM850 850w ATX12V GOLD Certifed
160$
CASE
NZXT H440
130$
SSD
SAMSUNG 840 EVO 250GB SATA 6Gb/s
150$
DVD ROM
ASUS
20$
Total Cost (with discount): 1305 CAD

So, that's a bit more than I 'd like to spend. I'd really rather spend around 1100, if possible, but then again if I lucked out and that build is great, I could probably stomach the 1305.

A few questions and comments:

Most of the cpu/motherboards I see say LGA 1155. Will getting an LGA 1150 (does it have to do with the pins on the cpu?) make it more complicated to upgrade in the future?

is 850w a bit much for my psu? the newegg psu calculator said I would need that much.

I don't mind not getting an ssd but shouldnt the operating system be installed on it (if I get one later). Will that be a nuisance if I have already installed it on a hard drive?

I know nothing about the case, I only read that it was good for cooling but it seems a bit expensive.

Thanks for the help.


 
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Here is a makeup of the suggestions I made, there are cheaper 280x's but I chose one with a high factory OC since you won't be OCing yourself. You could also upgrade the GPU to a 290 if you wanted, which will get you playing everything on ultra settings and come in at just over $1100, depending on sales and price fluctuations.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($235.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State...

byza

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Thats a very good motherboard, but since you are not overclocking you will want a H97 rather than a Z97. The Asrock Fatal1ty H97 Performance is good, or if you want M.2/SATA Express than the Fatal1ty H97 Killer. And yes it has to do with the CPU compatibility. You would also get a B series if you want to save more.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fatal1tyh97performance
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-fatal1tyh97killer

Make sure you get low CAS RAM, aim for 9 or lower with a frequency 1600Mhz or above. Since you would be getting an H or B series motherboard, the RAM will only run up to 1600Mhz, even if you buy higher frequency, as they do no support higher frequencies, so really focus on the CAS latency.

The case is one of my favourites, but you can get something much cheaper. The Corsair 200R and 300R are fantastic budget cases. Also the H440 doesn't have slots for cd/dvd drives.

I would get 600w+ for that build, although you could get away with lower. XFX have great quality, budget PSU's.
http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/part/xfx-power-supply-p1650snlb9

As far as performance goes, the SSD doesn't add anything for gaming other than loading times, but if you are editing things will load faster and the computer will boot faster. The EVO is a good SSD but if you want to save a bit the Crucial MX100 is cheaper and only slightly slower, probably not even noticeable in many situations.

And just get the cheapest cd/dvd drive you can.

You'll be playing games on high-ultra settings with this build.
 

byza

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Here is a makeup of the suggestions I made, there are cheaper 280x's but I chose one with a high factory OC since you won't be OCing yourself. You could also upgrade the GPU to a 290 if you wanted, which will get you playing everything on ultra settings and come in at just over $1100, depending on sales and price fluctuations.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($235.99 @ NCIX)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($122.00 @ Vuugo)
Memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($86.99 @ Memory Express)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($116.99 @ Amazon Canada)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($54.99 @ Canada Computers)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 280X 3GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($319.99 @ NCIX)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($54.95 @ DirectCanada)
Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($59.99 @ NCIX)
Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($16.79 @ DirectCanada)
Total: $1068.68
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-12 06:17 EDT-0400
 
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Hi, thanks so much for the help.

Will I be much better off if I overclock with the other motherboard and does the LGA1150 give fewer options for upgrading the future? I am just wary of overclocking because I haven't before. The storage options seems like a nice alternative. Should I be concerned that newegg suggesting 850w? Could that be a serious problem? That case seems to get great reviews and I also like the price but do you think I'll need to install another fan or replace any with better ones? Maybe that is something I'll have to wait and see with? I am considering upgrading the gpu.
 

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btw can anyone suggest an equivalent nvidia card? I read that the gtx 770 is better than the r9 280x and it is similarily priced.
Also, if I want to overclock should I go with the GA-Z97X-UD5H LGA 1150 and the i5 4690k? Would that be a better investment than a better graphics card? If I end up overclocking than should I get a better cpu fan?

Is there much to worry about with overclocking?