I am going to be building a new pc and it is between these two cases. I will be getting a micro atx mobo I have already picked out so that does not matter. The 450d comes with more fans, but on Linus tech tips he said he did not think the 450d was obsidian series quality. I think they both look great so it really comes down to which has better cable managment. And if you guys think the 350d is better, should I get the windowed or non windowed?