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ASMEDIA 106X Sata II

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August 12, 2014 2:54:06 PM

Greetings,

Gotta figure this out.

Here are the facts...

I have an H61M-DS2 Micro-ATX Motherboard.
I have an ASMEDIA 1061 Sata III Controller
I have an SSD (Kingston V300 Sata III SSD)

When I plug in my SSD (by itself) w/ the correct drivers installed. I can only achieve sata two speeds of 266.6 MB/S. HDTUNE, and ATTO benchmarking software.

On both software it reads as me having a SATA II hard drive.

What is wrong?

My motherboard by default has no SATA II ports, does this mean the Motherboard is "bottlenecking" the expansion PCI card? Meaning, does the lack of Sata III ports natively mean although the expansion card supports SATA III it does not work due to lack of support?

Thanks, sort of bummed this card didn't allow my SSD to run faster. The port is clearly the bottleneck, as no matter what medium I use to run the SSD I am brick walled by the Sata II speed limit.

Thanks,
Godbless & Most Sincerely,
Mathew

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August 12, 2014 3:08:19 PM

actually 250mb/s is the limit that PCI-E 1.0x1 will allow. which unfortunately is what your slot is that you're plugging the adaptor into on your motherboard

that ASMEDIA 1061 Sata III Controller card is a pcie 2.0x1 card... which would allow a double that transfer rate (500mb/s); unfortunately the slot on your motherboard is PCI-E 1.0, not PCI-E 2.0...

your problem is the motherboard, not the pci-e card.
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August 12, 2014 3:08:43 PM

what does it read on the intel controller? I never use the asmeida drivers for that controller I just let windows pick it up with its default driver ,but that's just me .
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August 12, 2014 3:10:07 PM

ingtar33 --- i'll go for that
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August 12, 2014 3:13:03 PM

On my motherboard store page it reports PCI Generation 3

"The GIGABYTE motherboard is fully configured to provide gamers with the latest Gen.3 PCI Express technology, delivering maximum data bandwidth for forthcoming discrete graphics cards.
* PCIe Gen. 3 is dependent on CPU and expansion card compatibility."

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...
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August 12, 2014 3:14:34 PM

If this is true, and I only have 250mb/s to work with.

Would I be better off using the SATA II in the motherboard? Or is this faster? (I reach speeds of 266 MB/s, which bypasses the 250mb limit...)
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August 12, 2014 3:15:48 PM

chaotixblade said:
On my motherboard store page it reports PCI Generation 3

"The GIGABYTE motherboard is fully configured to provide gamers with the latest Gen.3 PCI Express technology, delivering maximum data bandwidth for forthcoming discrete graphics cards.
* PCIe Gen. 3 is dependent on CPU and expansion card compatibility."

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=...


except it's not. No h61 motherboard comes with PCIE 3.0... pci-e 3.0 didn't arrive on intel motherboards till z77; that motherboard sports PCI-E 2.0x16 for the one pci-e slot... everything else is pci-e 1.0x1

EDIT: weird... i just checked the page... very strange because the h61 chipset doesn't support pci-e 3.0, yet gigabyte clearly claims it does. newegg's product page for that motherboard claims it's pci-e 2.0 not 3.0... very strange.

I suspect gigabyte is playing with words... the wording they're using is "conforms to pci-e 3.0 standard"... that is a strange turn of phrase... i suspect it's really pci-e 2.0 but they're claiming it will work with a 3.0 device.

I'm going to do more research into this one.
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August 12, 2014 3:26:39 PM

yeah... amazon and other online retailers all agree, as does the 2 youtube reviews... it's a PCI-E 2.0x16 slot and 2 pci-e1.0x1 slots. regardless what gigabyte claims on their website everyone else in the universe seems to agree about what's on the motherboard.

your problem is the motherboard. pci-e 1.0x1 is capped at 250mb/s transfer speed... and that's basically whats happening to you. looks pretty cut and dry really.
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August 12, 2014 3:26:57 PM

1.1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16
(The PCI Express x16 slot conforms to PCI Express 3.0 standard.)
* PCIE Gen.3 is dependent on CPU and expansion card compatibility.
2.2 x PCI Express x1 slots
(The PCI Express x1 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)
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August 12, 2014 3:27:48 PM

I greatly appreciate your input. But try and read all of the OP's posts...

"If this is true, and I only have 250mb/s to work with.

Would I be better off using the SATA II in the motherboard? Or is this faster? (I reach speeds of 266 MB/s, which bypasses the 250mb limit...)"

Thanks dude, I'll give you best answer if you can answer my question.
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August 12, 2014 3:29:16 PM

junkeymonkey said:
1.1 x PCI Express x16 slot, running at x16
(The PCI Express x16 slot conforms to PCI Express 3.0 standard.)
* PCIE Gen.3 is dependent on CPU and expansion card compatibility.
2.2 x PCI Express x1 slots
(The PCI Express x1 slots conform to PCI Express 2.0 standard.)


I know. i read what gigabyte claims... i also have checked out multiple reviews and retailers... i suspect the slight of hand gigabyte is using is the word "conforms"... it can conform all it wants to those standards... it simply doesn't run at those speeds. the H61 chipset pretty much tells us what those slots are.

1- PCI-E 2.0x16
2- PCI-E 1.0x1

chaotixblade said:
I greatly appreciate your input. But try and read all of the OP's posts...

"If this is true, and I only have 250mb/s to work with.

Would I be better off using the SATA II in the motherboard? Or is this faster? (I reach speeds of 266 MB/s, which bypasses the 250mb limit...)"

Thanks dude, I'll give you best answer if you can answer my question.


the SATAII ports on your motherboard would be faster... sataII basically caps out around 300mb/s
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August 12, 2014 3:30:23 PM

seems the onboard intel controller would be the better asmeida as I said above can be flakey
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August 12, 2014 3:31:10 PM

This is my third attempt at securing an answer from someone.

Answer my question, and you get the best answer.

A. Because the drive is achieving 266 mb/s of the supposed "250mb" limit, does this negate the assertion that its pci 1.0.

B. If in fact it is PCI 1.0, am I better off having my SSD run natively off of my Sata 2.0 port found on my motherboard?

Best answer is a short distance away...

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August 12, 2014 3:33:08 PM

chaotixblade said:
This is my third attempt at securing an answer from someone.

Answer my question, and you get the best answer.

A. Because the drive is achieving 266 mb/s of the supposed "250mb" limit, does this negate the assertion that its pci 1.0.

B. If in fact it is PCI 1.0, am I better off having my SSD run natively off of my Sata 2.0 port found on my motherboard?

Best answer is a short distance away...

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a) nope, just a vagary in the benching software
b) yep. SATAII would cap you around 300mb/s it's nothing amazing but it is about 20% faster.
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August 12, 2014 3:35:22 PM

I've modified my best answer selection. The best answer was supposed to be the one above this response, but the only way to change the best answer is to click the green button in my email. (A backdoor I've discovered a while ago...)

Anyways, there was no email for the above response.

Thanks for the thorough input, you deserve it.

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August 12, 2014 4:10:13 PM

I knew I got ripped off, but not that bad... My numbers are carbon copies of those results.

I have already swore never to buy another Kingston product, my family will do the same.
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August 12, 2014 4:31:29 PM

I don't care as long as you got the right help on this
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August 12, 2014 4:47:21 PM

Much Respect.
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August 12, 2014 5:15:53 PM

junkeymonkey said:
I don't care as long as you got the right help on this


:D  same.

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