Normal Frame Rate range for World Of Warcraft

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I know there is probably a few threads out there with this title, but my situation might seem alittle different. I was wondering if this was a "normal" frame rate range for World Of Warcraft.

I currently play with some settings on fair and others on high with Vsync/triple buffering enabled (due to screen tearing, and yes i get the same fps whether on/off).

High settings:
- shadows
- particle density
- texture resoltuion
- (rest are on fair/good)

Out and about: 60 fps
Crowded cities (like shrine): 30 fps, sometimes dipping into 20's. (I play on a high pop server)
Raid bosses with 25+ people: usually steady 30 fps+ but i have seen it dip to 16 fps.

PC specs:
CPU: AMD FX 6300 6 core 3.5ghz
GPU: AMD radeon r9 270 (OC alittle to match 270x)
RAM: 8gb DDR3 1600
MOBO: msi760gma-p34(fx)
SSD: Samsung evo 250gb 840
PSU: evga 600W bronze +

All drivers, bios, windows updates, (power plan settings set to performance) are updated to latest releases.

Am i expecting more out of my hardware or should i be seeing better frame rates?
 
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Lee-m
I feel like I have answered this question a million times.
25-30 fps on wow is normal, regardless of your hardware. Wow needs to keep everyone and all the animations in sync. So you often see a big yo-yo in dps. On 25 man fights expect a big frame hit on the boss pull.


As long as the game is playable, your fine. and 25ms local or world server is considered a good ping, anything less is a bonus.
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Well V-sync will cap your FPS at 60 no matter what. And warcraft is also not a multi-threaded application anyways so your 4/5 cores don't help at all.

WoW is a slightly more CPU intensive game than graphically intensive.

If you get screen tearing you might want to get a new monitor.
 
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Yes I know vsync will cap frame rates to the monitors refresh rate. Buying a new monitor wouldn't solve anything considering it is a Dell S2240 21 inch 1080p only 2 months old. Screen tearing occurs when you are producing a higher frame rate above what your monitor is capable of displaying at any given time.

In this case without vysnc in enabled I've seen frames as high as 250 and why make my gpu work harder for a few frames I will never see.

I do know that wow is a very old game and isn't multi threaded but as I described above is this typical frames for a older game like this with this kind of hardware setup?
 
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Your monitor is a 7ms repsonse time, that might be why you get screen tearing. Ideally you'd want 5ms or lower. (2-1ms would be for the best)

I'm willing to bet your CPU is bottlenecking your graphics card in WoW. WoW is older, but it's CPU requirements are where it's harshest, hence why you could get better FPS with a stronger CPU and weaker grahpics card from the same settings.

 
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I appreciate your help. Let me just start off by saying that. 7ms makes sense, but I'm not going to go spend another 150 when I have a pretty good working monitor.

As for the cpu bottle necking my GPU. This actually is not the case. I have an amd monitor tool that monitors both cpu and GPU usage at the same time, along with windows built in resource manager and even under heavy load I never see the cpu nor the GPU go above 65% usage.

I probably should of mentioned I am a software technician with multiple certs and that I have taken multiple steps to see if there is some kind of bottleneck but I have been unable to find any resource in my computer being fully maxed out under stress.

If you would like to see amd/resource monitor I can take a screen shot under load and show you.
 
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Well, exactly, WoW won't use your whole CPU. That's the problem, it's using 1/3rd of it maybe.
Are there other games, newer and older, online and offline, that have the same issues?

A game like BF4 might even run better.
 
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I feel like I have answered this question a million times.
25-30 fps on wow is normal, regardless of your hardware. Wow needs to keep everyone and all the animations in sync. So you often see a big yo-yo in dps. On 25 man fights expect a big frame hit on the boss pull.


As long as the game is playable, your fine. and 25ms local or world server is considered a good ping, anything less is a bonus.
 
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So I have ran other games such as Elders Scroll Online and WildStar.

Elders Scroll Online with most things set to high gave me 60+ fps like 90% of the time, and in crowded cities i only have ever seen it dip to 35 fps.

Wild Star was the same thing as ESO except at times where i should be getting 60 or more walking around i was getting 45+ and 25+ in cities. I found out this issue was with the AMD drivers itself, not my video card. The R9 drivers have a beta version of 14.7 that is suppose to increase Wild Star performance by 24%, which is huge for a driver alone.

Here is the link to that if you are interested: http://support.amd.com/en-us/kb-articles/Pages/latest-catalyst-windows-beta.aspx

I do feel at this point it is more on WoWs side than mine and games like BF4 and Titanfall would have no issues playing seeing as how they are more multi threaded and can take access of all 6 cores.

Lee-m,

yes you probably have answered this same question like a billion times. I just wanted to get some sort of verification it wasn't my hardware. I am picky like that you could say lol. Thanks for the help.
 
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Its cool, its not a big deal. Tho a quick search of the forum would have given you an answer in 2-3mins.

As regards WoW, it is not your hardware, its just the way the game is.
 
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