next generation gaming engines
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MeteorsRaining
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What do you mean by 'gaming engines', GPUs? Well they should be better at power efficiency in the coming generations. They don't really have anything other than graphics and power consumption.
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^Adding to that:
No real innovation expected. every game is taking up more and more resources, and there's a change in graphics that's all. I'd love to see games which gives more detail than ever with relatively less requirements.
Also, I can't really see this with any of the games, sigh. I don't know if that was your question lol.
No real innovation expected. every game is taking up more and more resources, and there's a change in graphics that's all. I'd love to see games which gives more detail than ever with relatively less requirements.
Also, I can't really see this with any of the games, sigh. I don't know if that was your question lol.
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I would have thought that since the new Consoles are x86 based and have GCN architecture that games would be much better ports. the PS4 and Xone have the rough equavilant of the HD 7870 and HD 7850 though the Xone one has slightly less SP/ shader units and half the ROPs. My thought is that right now Games are running not so well on PC. Watch dogs for Example is a nightmare to play. Right now in 2014 the PC even with the superior hardware cannot take full advantage of the current and upcoming titles and Engines. DX11 just is very dated in the PC world. Yes DX12 is promised by MS to be out by 2015. The Next Big game imo is Star Citizen and does Cryengine 3 i think or modded Cryengine 3. Also is supporting Mantle. Another title I am looking foward to is Tom Clancy's The Division. I believe it will be using the Snowdrop Engine which i do not know enough aabout to advocate for. I can go on and on but i have to leave....
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yes u get close to my question,ever since I played prince of Persia the real change seemed to me assassins creed in terms of gameplay and gta got the open world and mass effect ,cod and battle field but from quite some time they are rebranding the same without much change in the way we experience it.making more hardware year after year and increasing sales and for us we are buying hardware to play the same .I have an r9 290 which is way better than consoles of next gen but gaming looks even better in those than in mine as they are programed that way, as to make us go for consoles instead of pc. but how about the prospects of future gaming like holographic technology,3-d,like kinnect just not only for basic games but also for every game.how many years my GPU will last in terms of gaming
yes u get close to my question,ever since I played prince of Persia the real change seemed to me assassins creed in terms of gameplay and gta got the open world and mass effect ,cod and battle field but from quite some time they are rebranding the same without much change in the way we experience it.making more hardware year after year and increasing sales and for us we are buying hardware to play the same .I have an r9 290 which is way better than consoles of next gen but gaming looks even better in those than in mine as they are programed that way, as to make us go for consoles instead of pc. but how about the prospects of future gaming like holographic technology,3-d,like kinnect just not only for basic games but also for every game.how many years my GPU will last in terms of gaming
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I agree with you. The last real innovation was open world I'd say. Many games are based on it, and its spin offs, enhance it, sometimes beautifully but then at the end its essentially a single type of game.
Consoles are better in a way as they're attached to TV (except handheld ones) and are dedicated to gaming. They don't really do anything else. Even with less physical hardware they get more audience since more people want a platform ONLY for gaming. I know gaming rigs can be much, much more powerful but then its essentially a PC.
The only things we're increasing on is the number of cores, core speed, memory speed and the memory bus of graphics cards lol. We're developing games to utilize more and more cores and stuff. But who has thought of developing a game with same level of graphics and detail but using less resources? No one!
If we do that, then our current rigs can be more than enough for UHD gaming, holographic displays and more. 'Bigger is better' is not the idea now, 'efficient is better' is. Produce a game like BF4 which uses less resources with same detail.
I know that's not possible, but that's what'll be REAL INNOVATION. I really like Intel on these terms. They produce more efficient models over more powerful ones. They don't have a 5GHz CPU, but still people choose it over FX 8xxx or 9xxx. Its about quality of gaming, not quantity in GPU requirements IMO.
If there's the REAL INNOVATION which I'm talking about, then your card is good for Ultra for 5+ years. Otherwise 2-4 years for Ultra as we say it standardized.
Consoles are better in a way as they're attached to TV (except handheld ones) and are dedicated to gaming. They don't really do anything else. Even with less physical hardware they get more audience since more people want a platform ONLY for gaming. I know gaming rigs can be much, much more powerful but then its essentially a PC.
The only things we're increasing on is the number of cores, core speed, memory speed and the memory bus of graphics cards lol. We're developing games to utilize more and more cores and stuff. But who has thought of developing a game with same level of graphics and detail but using less resources? No one!
If we do that, then our current rigs can be more than enough for UHD gaming, holographic displays and more. 'Bigger is better' is not the idea now, 'efficient is better' is. Produce a game like BF4 which uses less resources with same detail.
I know that's not possible, but that's what'll be REAL INNOVATION. I really like Intel on these terms. They produce more efficient models over more powerful ones. They don't have a 5GHz CPU, but still people choose it over FX 8xxx or 9xxx. Its about quality of gaming, not quantity in GPU requirements IMO.
If there's the REAL INNOVATION which I'm talking about, then your card is good for Ultra for 5+ years. Otherwise 2-4 years for Ultra as we say it standardized.
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Still, that's a 7870/7850. And these consoles are once again expected to last a while. How long were the last ones around, almost a decade? And the 7870 is barely a mid-range card. If PC's are held back by consoles, as they tend to be, then we won't see any significant advancements from AAA titles at least.
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I doubt it. Just because they didn't sell on release doesn't mean they won't continue to sell over time. Especially at launch, there are hardly any titles available for the consoles, certainly no need to 'upgrade' from the previous gen. Consoles are where the bulk of the money is, they will sell.
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