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August 13, 2014 4:29:00 AM

my friend built a new pc...
he wants to play
Crysis 3
battlefield 4
watchdogs

his specs
-pentium g2030
-ddr3 ram (4gb)
-18.5" dell 1366 x 768

he is looking to buy hd7770 or gtx650....

can he play above games????
if possible at what highest settings???

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a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2014 4:59:27 AM

Well ask your friend if he really want high graphics gaming then he definitely needs a cpu with quad core those are the most demanding games right now.

As for graphics card I would go for HD 7770.
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a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2014 5:01:10 AM

Chances on low-med settings. With that build.
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August 13, 2014 5:50:42 AM

he bought it just a few days back....cant upgrade now....i know there will be no kick in playing these games in low settings.....
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 13, 2014 5:55:04 AM

Tell him to try for a GTX 750.
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a b U Graphics card
August 13, 2014 6:07:01 AM

Yes, on low-med settings he should be fine but high setting it is not fair.
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August 14, 2014 12:51:10 AM

There will be bottleneck sure......gtx 750 is costlier too.....

which one do you prefer in these two cards-
Nvidia GTX 650 2gb ddr5
amd hd7770 1gb ddr5....

i asked him again he said he has no interest in upgrading processor playing games in low settings is enough.....
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:05:45 AM

sahityaraju said:
There will be bottleneck sure......gtx 750 is costlier too.....

which one do you prefer in these two cards-
Nvidia GTX 650 2gb ddr5
amd hd7770 1gb ddr5....

i asked him again he said he has no interest in upgrading processor playing games in low settings is enough.....


The 7770 if that is the only choice. They are very low end cards though.
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August 14, 2014 1:17:08 AM

okay then....
i am looking to buy a new pc too...
i3 3rd or 4th gen....i will add 2-4gb rams....
same monitor as my friends one...
plz suggest me the best graphics card...
look at flipkart.com my budget is 8000 inr...
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:25:10 AM

i3 with HD 7770 is a best combination you can beat your friends pc easily.
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:27:59 AM

I would spend less on the CPU (change down to a pentium) if it means you can get a better GPU. The 7770 is not very good.
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August 14, 2014 1:37:13 AM

adding a great gpu to pentiums is not a good thing.....
if i used r7 260 or gtx 750ti there will be bottleneck for sure and pentiums are already outdated and i saw my friends pc's and i3 is really snappy even doing multiple works at a time even on 2gb ram....
where pentium becomes laggy having 4gb ram.....
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:38:23 AM

sahityaraju said:
adding a great gpu to pentiums is not a good thing.....
if i used r7 260 or gtx 750ti there will be bottleneck for sure and pentiums are already outdated and i saw my friends pc's and i3 is really snappy even doing multiple works at a time even on 2gb ram....
where pentium becomes laggy having 4gb ram.....


But for games, the Pentium with a 750 ti will play much better than a i3 with a 7770.

It also depends on what penitum. The modern ones are very good, and basically an i3 without hyperthreading. The old ones sucked.
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:45:20 AM

Indeed core I3 entry level cpus even beat out some quad core of AMD's. I3 have been good for gaming great efficiency, lower TDP, and higher performance also there is not a big difference in prices of pentiums vs Core I3's. You can add a good gfx card with core i3's. Now the choice is yours?

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/CPU/1033
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:47:29 AM

@RobCrezz, you mad bro how cheap comparing you had made GTX 750ti vs HD 7770 ha ha you kidding right?
Ti series are much better than HD 7xxx
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August 14, 2014 2:15:15 AM

i prefer i3+hd7770

if possible i will add r7 260 or gtx 750ti.....

i hate pentiums......had a laptop with pentium sold it they are not a good choice at all for hardcore gaming......
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 3:50:06 AM

If you can afford GTX 750ti then surely performance will be twice as HD 7770.
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 3:58:28 AM

Pentiums are not really bad chips but they offer only limited performance you would not expect too much from pentiums.
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 4:00:52 AM

xtreme5 said:
@RobCrezz, you mad bro how cheap comparing you had made GTX 750ti vs HD 7770 ha ha you kidding right?
Ti series are much better than HD 7xxx


If you read my post, I mean if you can save money by changing the i3 for a Pentium Gxxxx, and use this money to get a GTX 750 instead, you will get better performance than the i3 + 7770.

Dont mistake the modern pentiums for the old pentium D, or Pentium Dual core, as they sucked. The new ones are pretty much the same chip as the i3 but without hyper threading.


My home theatre PC has an i3 540, which is similar performance to a Pentium G3220 and changing to a better graphics card made a big difference, currently has a GTX 660 in it and runs games very well.
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 4:18:20 AM

I3 for the win as you said you had I3 540 (older Gen) performance similar to Pentium G3220 (New Gen) still I3 better with old technology but yes if you put better GFX with Pentium then definitely it will outperform i3 if the same case with I3 surely it will beat pentium with same card.

Now OP asking about what Generation to Buy 3rd or 4rth both are execellent, If I was him I would choose 4th Gen for better, smooth performance with lower TDP.

Hyper-Threading Completely useless for gaming, this feature is designed for multi-tasking jobs.
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 4:20:04 AM

Both chips are good at thier origins. Thats it :) 
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August 14, 2014 4:28:21 AM

multi tasking is my first preference because on i always play games while listening songs also torrents running back and browser opened for facebook.....and pentium really struggled a lot......
i will save some money if possible and buy a 750ti....
but my monitor is 19.5" aoc 1366x768 i dnt have a led tv too......so no need of hdmi.....gaming at 720p is strictly enough for me......thats why i prefer i3 3rd gen and hd7770 with 8gb so that it can perform well in multitasking and bf4 and crysis3 at high yet okay performance !
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 5:53:40 AM

xtreme5 said:

Hyper-Threading Completely useless for gaming, this feature is designed for multi-tasking jobs.


Totally wrong. Hyper threading on i3s allow games to use 4 threads and get a performance boost.


Look here and you can see benchmarks in games with HT turned on and off.

http://www.computerbase.de/2011-04/test-intel-core-i3-2...
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 6:01:57 AM

You can also see here in Tomshardware own recommendations:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/gaming-cpu-review-overclo...

Quote:
Conversely, benchmark data makes it clear that the company's Hyper-Threading technology is effective in helping improve the performance of Core i3 CPUs in those same blockbusters.
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August 14, 2014 8:18:22 AM

i3 is my first preference because of hyperthreading....benchmarks proves it.....
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 8:24:21 AM

sahityaraju said:
i3 is my first preference because of hyperthreading....benchmarks proves it.....


Yup for sure, but only worth it if you can get a good graphics card, or you will be graphics card bottleneck anyway....
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August 14, 2014 11:37:43 AM

suggest me ....
and i will also look for i5
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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:39:32 PM

@RobCrezz,
You're picking a descriptions of I3 haha show me where is tomshardware recommending HT?
You also picked a cpu for a money hahah thats funny :D .

Now let me tell you Games majorly requires 2 or 4 cores least requires thread, you said HT helps in game I agree but for a shortest time. In those benchmarking the guys using core i7 with HT on off, a very little fps increase due to frequency of i7 not hyperthreading. See here
http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-gam...

Final answer HT neither helps nor hurt when Gaming.

Another thread see here
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/354727-28-does-hypert...

So even if you keep HT on with I3 cpu it might effect gameplay. Fps Down :) 
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 1:56:52 PM

xtreme5 said:
@RobCrezz,
You're picking a descriptions of I3 haha show me where is tomshardware recommending HT?
You also picked a cpu for a money hahah thats funny :D .

Now let me tell you Games majorly requires 2 or 4 cores least requires thread, you said HT helps in game I agree but for a shortest time. In those benchmarking the guys using core i7 with HT on off, a very little fps increase due to frequency of i7 not hyperthreading. See here
http://www.overclock.net/t/671977/hyperthreading-in-gam...

Final answer HT neither helps nor hurt when Gaming.

Another thread see here
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/354727-28-does-hypert...

So even if you keep HT on with I3 cpu it might effect gameplay. Fps Down :) 




Sorry, you are wrong. In the case of the i3, as many games can utilize 4 threads, HT does help performance, its been proven time and time again.

Did you not read the link for best CPUs for the money, where Toms says HT on the i3 helps performance in games.

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a b U Graphics card
August 14, 2014 2:36:08 PM

Agree but only 3 or 4 fps increase but depends on (min, avg, max) it may effect performance in minimum fps, while increase avg same with max.
Show me I3 HT with a big boast in performance?
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August 14, 2014 11:29:37 PM

whats the difference in various i3's????is it only igp's or anything else.....best balanced i3-cost performance ratio????
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 15, 2014 1:50:02 AM

xtreme5 said:
Agree but only 3 or 4 fps increase but depends on (min, avg, max) it may effect performance in minimum fps, while increase avg same with max.
Show me I3 HT with a big boast in performance?


COD: Black ops
http://www.computerbase.de/2011-04/test-intel-core-i3-2...

Min framerate is boosted by 18fps by turning HT on

Avg Framerate boosted by 14fps with HT on
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a b U Graphics card
August 15, 2014 9:02:20 AM

LAWLzzz, Only 1 game hahah okay its fine.
Still doesn't worth but from my side I would pick 3rd gen of I3. Thats it
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 15, 2014 9:11:03 AM

sahityaraju said:
whats the difference in various i3's????is it only igp's or anything else.....best balanced i3-cost performance ratio????


xtreme5 said:
LAWLzzz, Only 1 game hahah okay its fine.
Still doesn't worth but from my side I would pick 3rd gen of I3. Thats it


No, its literally every game that uses 4 threads, use your brain...

Why do you think the i3 performs better in games? Its mainly HT that separates it from the Pentiums! Think about it....
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August 15, 2014 9:57:56 AM

HT may or may not being useful but there is no other processor that can perform better at this price range (fx-6300 i cant get that in my town) so as you said i will go for I3 3Rd gen.....
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a b U Graphics card
August 15, 2014 2:42:24 PM

@RobCrezz, You know I'm a big Fan of intel and I knew everything about it, I like both processors pentium or Corei family both are great chips, you said why do you think I3 performs better its not about HT at all, all it does that is about core efficiency and greater frequency HT won't boast in games.
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August 15, 2014 8:36:47 PM

hmm.....hey guys i want to know why should i buy 1Gb hd7770 instead of gtx650 2gb....both are ddr5 but why 7770 is powerful than 2gb gtx650
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2014 12:32:15 AM

Because of higher clock frequency.
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2014 4:32:20 AM

HD 7770 has 640 stream processors while GTX 650 got only 384 stream processors.
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August 16, 2014 5:39:07 AM

ok got it.....but on a 768p screen is it worthy to buy a high end card???
720p gaming will be enough i guess due to our eyes limitation....what do you say???
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2014 7:12:38 AM

Yes, It is enough since its not an high-end card but will fillfull your needs. At @720p you'll be getting decent frame rates in all most every game.
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August 16, 2014 7:26:03 AM

yeah the thing is i will buy hd 7770 but for 720p gaming r7 250 isnt enough????
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a b U Graphics card
August 16, 2014 8:05:53 AM

Nah, Basically R7 250 is slower then HD 7770, if you love gaming @720p resolution then I would still suggest HD 7770 its being a great card for gaming.
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August 16, 2014 8:38:16 AM

is 768p monitor enough for gaming or change to 1080p...i believe there will be no difference because of eye limitations.....what monitor you are using???
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a c 78 U Graphics card
August 16, 2014 10:02:58 AM

xtreme5 said:
@RobCrezz, You know I'm a big Fan of intel and I knew everything about it, I like both processors pentium or Corei family both are great chips, you said why do you think I3 performs better its not about HT at all, all it does that is about core efficiency and greater frequency HT won't boast in games.


The I3 and the Pentium have the same cores, i3 have the HT enabled....
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a b U Graphics card
August 17, 2014 1:07:18 AM

What do you mean by Eye Limitations?
Of course there is big difference between 768p vs 1080p, depending on a graphics card.

Yes, 768p is more than enough.
I'm using this one Full HD 1080p.
http://www.dell.com/ed/business/p/dell-s2240l/pd
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