Sleeving PSU Cables

JediMaster2303 · Aug 13, 2014

I want to individually sleeve each cable on my PSU I'm getting which is a Corsair RM 750w but I need help.

Things I need help with:

- A guide on how to do it
- sleeving material
- materials list

Thanks

JackNaylorPE · Aug 13, 2014

It's all here:

http://www.overclock.net/a/lutro0s-video-guide-to-sleeving

byza · Aug 13, 2014

I thought I gave you all that info in your other thread. Anyway here is where you can buy MDPC
http://www.mdpc-x.com/
PET of various forms
http://www.cableorganizer.com/cable-sleeving/
and i'm sure you can find Paracord 550 somewhere that sells it in the required length and colour if you choose to go that option.

As a rough estimate you'll need about 60m but to work it out you'll need to get the length of the cables x how many cables make up the cord + a few meters to make mistakes with. You'll also want a few meters of heat shrink, around 1m to every 10m of sleeving.

As a side note, I'd go for this over the 750w RM
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20750xr.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

Why the evga?

byza · Aug 14, 2014

The RM doesn't have good capacitors. The EVGA G2's are really good PSUs. Do you really need 750w? Most single card build need 650w max.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

I am getting a i7 4790k, h100i,1tb HHD,240gb ssd, gtx 760, phanteks entho pro. I'm getting a 750w because somebody said to me that it should be " future proofed" also I will be overclocking

tiny voices · Aug 14, 2014

Some RM units are good. The 750 is not one of them. Don't buy it.

If gaming is what you are doing, you want an i5 and 770, not i7 and 760.

byza · Aug 14, 2014

As tiny voices said, for gaming an i5 + 770 is going to work better. Most games don't take advantage of hyperthreading so the i7 really isn't worth the money. If you're thinking of SLI 770s than maybe think about an 850w. A 750w would handle them but doesn't leave much head room.
http://pcpartpicker.com/part/evga-power-supply-220g20850xr

sarahragan2014 · Aug 14, 2014

If I were to buy a PSU that has some ugly cables, and I wanted to sleeve them, what brand of sleeving kit would I get? I want to sleeve black

byza · Aug 14, 2014

sarahragan2014 :

This is a copy of my response fron Jedi's other thread so forgive me for repeating myself Jedi but I cannot be bothered typing it out again.

MDPC have the best sleeving, but it is expensive and a bit more difficult to work with than other types, however it looks fantastic. You can also use Flexi PET, it's very cheap but the weave ususally isn't as thick, still looks better than standard cables. Third option is Paracord 550, you need to remove the 'core' threads and then you can slip your cables though there. In my opinion it looks better than PET, but if you go for paracord make sure to put tape around the pins so they don't get stuck. With paracord you can also melt the cord to the cable so you don't need heat shrink for a really professional look, but if you do you heat shink, you will need to use a bit more than with MDPC or PET as it doesn't hold the paracord as well as the other sleeving. Here is a guide on sleeving.
http://forums.overclockers.com.au/showthread.php?t=710559

There are other brands than MDPC that do braided cable sleeving specifically for computers as well but I don't know any brands or where to buy them in the US. There is a brand called Bitspower I can get in Aus, I believe it's a Taiwanese brand so maybe you can find that in the US but i'm not sure.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

Its okay with me byza because you are just trying to explain something.

JackNaylorPE · Aug 14, 2014

byza :

Hyperthreading is only one of the considerations here.

4690k = 3.5 Ghz
4790k = 4.0 Ghz

So if you have a $1200 box, adding $100 increases cost by 8% whereas it nets you a speed improvement of 14%.

JackNaylorPE · Aug 14, 2014

sarahragan2014 :

Lutro is the king of sleeving ..... in response to customer requests, Lutro went out and found the original supplier of the infamous MDPC sleeving tool and now sells a custom tool for less money , and if your are in the US, no overseas shipping costs and wait.

If that's an issue, MDPC would be the choice if you're in Europe, Lutro in the US..... if the wait and shipping doesn't matter....Lutro's stuff is superior.

http://lutro0-customs.com/
http://lutro0-customs.com/collections/all

You can also but much of his stuff from frozencpu.com
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g60/LutroO_Products.html?id=JvZz2Vj5

And again, watch the videos and make sure this is something you want to take on. Some of the cables require a bit of skill such as when you have two cables that wanna go in same hole.

Lotr0s work in developing the Heatshrinkless method has changed the face of sleeving.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1262904/video-sleeving-guide-series (See Part 9)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1368959/lutro0-customs-sleeving-and-computer-solutions

More here
http://www.overclock.net/newsearch?search=Lutro+Sleeving

Oh BTW, custom sleeving is the only instance where I see a 100% fully modular PSU as being an advantage. Unfortunately, in many PSU series, the step to full modular brought with it a reduction in component quality to offset the additional cost....ie Corsair RM series.

byza · Aug 14, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

When you take overclocking into account they reach similar speeds, depends if you get lucky with a chip or not. Also we were talking about keeping the price the same by trading the i7 for an i5 and the 760 for 770, as one would assume he's as his price limit if he's going with a 760. Now it does depend on which game you play, but I would say more often than not, an i5 + 770 would trump an i7 + 760.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

I have a $2000 max budget but I wanna keep it low for future upgrades. I live in Toronto so everything here is expensive but I might just go to micro center to buy some parts like the cpu and mobo.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

I haven't ordered my parts yet and I wanted everyone's opinion which PC to get.

1.) http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/JediMaster2303/saved/V7vdnQ - Intel
2.) http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/user/JediMaster2303/saved/Jbwypg - AMD

byza · Aug 14, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

sarahragan2014 :

Lutro is the king of sleeving ..... in response to customer requests, Lutro went out and found the original supplier of the infamous MDPC sleeving tool and now sells a custom tool for less money , and if your are in the US, no overseas shipping costs and wait.

If that's an issue, MDPC would be the choice if you're in Europe, Lutro in the US..... if the wait and shipping doesn't matter....Lutro's stuff is superior.

http://lutro0-customs.com/
http://lutro0-customs.com/collections/all

You can also but much of his stuff from frozencpu.com
http://www.frozencpu.com/cat/l1/g60/LutroO_Products.html?id=JvZz2Vj5

And again, watch the videos and make sure this is something you want to take on. Some of the cables require a bit of skill such as when you have two cables that wanna go in same hole.

Lotr0s work in developing the Heatshrinkless method has changed the face of sleeving.

http://www.overclock.net/t/1262904/video-sleeving-guide-series (See Part 9)
http://www.overclock.net/t/1368959/lutro0-customs-sleeving-and-computer-solutions

More here
http://www.overclock.net/newsearch?search=Lutro+Sleeving

Oh BTW, custom sleeving is the only instance where I see a 100% fully modular PSU as being an advantage. Unfortunately, in many PSU series, the step to full modular brought with it a reduction in component quality to offset the additional cost....ie Corsair RM series.

Lustro's sleeving looks really nice. Shame most of it is out of stock. Would have gotten my GF's dad to bring out some Royal Blue for me next month.

byza · Aug 14, 2014

JediMaster2303 :

I would say you are better off getting the best parts you can right now, rather than saving money to upgrade later. for example, if you get a 760, you will need to SLI to get ultra settings, so why not just get a 780 or R9 290 now since you have the budget?

Of the two build you posted, i'd go with the intel build.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

I don't do alot of gaming now because I have a crappy laptop. But I'm planning on doing some gaming. Not like Crysis 3 at 1080p ultra. I play games like DayZ and other games among the lines.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 14, 2014

I have a $2000 budget but I only want spend $1500 - $1700. I'm saving a bit because I also need a monitor and mouse.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 15, 2014

Also I know this has nothing to do with sleeving but what's a good and fairly cheap 27 inch monitor ? I live in Toronto so its expensive here but I'm planning on going to the Detroit Micro Center and some other places to find one. Can anyone suggest some stores I can get a cheap 27 inch?

JackNaylorPE · Aug 15, 2014

byza :

The 4770k's were better overclockers....which makes sense cause if a 4670k could do what a 4770k, it woulda been sold as a 4770k ..... not a lot better but even w/ 2600k, gamers would buy it and turn off HT for better OC'ing. Understand ya point about the budget but remember that lotta peps lurk, read what was said and then repost w/o coming back and qualifying the statement. Pushed into a corner, Id take a better GFX card over the 15 => I7 upgrade, but w/o being pushed, I'd find a way to do both.

4690k + 770 + SSD + HD

or

4790k + 780 + SSHD

I'll take the latter every time.

JackNaylorPE · Aug 15, 2014

JediMaster2303 :

I wouldn't buy a 27":

1. 27" @ 2560 x 1440 is beyond your budget
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/rog-swift-pg278q-g-sync-monitor,3897-11.html

2. 27" @ 1980 x 1080 is to low of a ppi (pixels per inch). The human eye can start to see individual pixels at about 96 ppi. At 27", 1920 x 1080 is only 83.8 making the image appear grainy as you can see the individual dots. I'd by The 24" Asus 144 Hz

http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236313

byza · Aug 15, 2014

JackNaylorPE :

byza :

The 4770k's were better overclockers....which makes sense cause if a 4670k could do what a 4770k, it woulda been sold as a 4770k ..... not a lot better but even w/ 2600k, gamers would buy it and turn off HT for better OC'ing. Understand ya point about the budget but remember that lotta peps lurk, read what was said and then repost w/o coming back and qualifying the statement. Pushed into a corner, Id take a better GFX card over the 15 => I7 upgrade, but w/o being pushed, I'd find a way to do both.

4690k + 770 + SSD + HD

or

4790k + 780 + SSHD

I'll take the latter every time.

Good point and I agree.

JediMaster2303 · Aug 15, 2014

Then how many inchs should I get instead of 27?

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