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Which fitting would have better 'performance per euro'?

I have a budget around 600€ and would like to fit through this website: http://www.mifcom.de/

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Chassis : Thermaltake - Commander MS1, black
CPU (Processor) : AMD Piledriver FX-6300, 6x 3.5GHz
Mainboard : ASRock 980DE3/U3S3, AMD 760G
GPU : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 750 Ti 2GB
8GB DDR3-1600 (1x 8GB)
SSD : 128GB SanDisk X110 (would it be better to take the 120GB Samsung 840 EVO?)
HD : 1TB WD Caviar Blue
DVD-Burner 24x Samsung SH-224DB
400W - BeQuiet! SystemPower 7

Cost : 635,00 €


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Chassis : Thermaltake - Commander MS1, black
CPU (Processor) : AMD Piledriver FX-4300, 4x 3.8GHz
Mainboard : ASRock 980DE3/U3S3, AMD 760G
GPU : NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB
8GB DDR3-1600 (1x 8GB)
SSD : none
HD : 1TB WD Caviar Blue
DVD-Burner 24x Samsung SH-224DB
400W - BeQuiet! SystemPower 7

Cost : 637,00 €


Thanks in advance for your afford and response.

Best regards,

Taras W.
 
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Novuake
Both are perfectly possible.
Since a case is pure preference, you can shop around for one you like that is of decent quality, if you are not sure you can ask me or you can read reviews on it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€86.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€31.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€63.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.90 @...
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Thanks for your response.

It should act as a gaming pc, but still run stuff like converting (no rendering) without a mess. Shouldn't I better keep an eye on the GPU instead of the CPU? Because that's what matters in games.
I would like to take a GeForce as GPU.

Best regards,

Taras W.
 
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None of those builds are decent gaming and even less rendering machines.

DROP the SSD if you are on a tight budget.
That motherboard is VERY bad.
BeQuiet PSUs are also not known for reliability.


Now assuming you can buy from more retailers or incorporate my below suggestion using OTHER retailers in Germany, then the below build is A LOT better in both quality AND performance.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€86.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€31.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€63.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 280 3GB WINDFORCE Video Card (€214.10 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (€11.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€58.15 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (€15.29 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €602.62
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-14 12:49 CEST+0200

 
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Thanks for your response.

Is it possible to work with a NDIVIA GeForce instead? If so, which would you advise? Is it possible to choose another ATX Mid Tower?

Thanks in advance.

Best regards,

Taras W.
 
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Both are perfectly possible.
Since a case is pure preference, you can shop around for one you like that is of decent quality, if you are not sure you can ask me or you can read reviews on it.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD FX-6300 3.5GHz 6-Core Processor (€86.90 @ Caseking)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler (€31.63 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Motherboard: Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard (€63.85 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport XT 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory (€69.90 @ Caseking)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive (€50.90 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Video Card: Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 2GB WINDFORCE Video Card (€214.48 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Case: BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case (€11.90 @ Caseking)
Power Supply: EVGA 600B 600W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply (€58.15 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Optical Drive: Lite-On iHAS124-14 DVD/CD Writer (€15.29 @ Amazon Deutschland)
Total: €603.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-14 13:13 CEST+0200
 
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Thank you very much for your response. I'm glad to hear that my budget is capable of taking a NDIVIA instead of a AMD. I'm new to hardware, and now somehow impressed. I thought I have to decide between better CPU and better GPU, this fitting has CPU and GPU better than the fittings I was interested in. The case does have to be a ATX Mid Tower, right?
I'm not familiar with assembling.. but I'll ask a schoolmate or look for a shop, if he is out of time, to assemble the parts. Looks like it's worth, maybe, paying extra 50 bucks for assembling in a shop but getting a better performance system in the end. I'm not sure if I could do it, even though people say it is not so difficult. Anyway, thanks for your compilation.

Best regards,

Taras W.

edit: pcpartpicker lists 2 Compatibility Notes
BitFenix Shinobi ATX Mid Tower Case has front panel USB 3.0 ports, but the Biostar TA970 ATX AM3+ Motherboard does not have onboard USB 3.0 headers.
Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs.

Is that a problem?
 
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The case has to be able to take a normal ATX motherboard, so yes, mid tower ATX preferably.


Some AMD 970 chipset motherboards may need a BIOS update prior to using Vishera CPUs.

That part was a problem when Vishera just released, its EXTREMELY unlike to need a BIOS update.

The first part just means you will not have front panel USBs. All will be in the back.

 
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Thanks for response.

Is it possible to get them front USBs working? Maybe without USB 3.0?
Another noob question: Do I need any more cables etc. to assemble that pc? I'll go for that Shinobi Case since it's cheap, I also havn't noticed the side window (which I personally find very nice with gaming pcs).

For the GPU, there is a "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce 3X OC Rev. 2.0, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (GV-N760OC-2GD)" and a "Gigabyte GeForce GTX 760 WindForce 2X OC, 2GB GDDR5, 2x DVI, HDMI, DisplayPort (GV-N760WF2OC-2GD)". Which to take?

Thanks for your response in advance.

Best regards,

Taras W.
 
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The first mentioned GPU has SLIGHTLY better cooling, but get whichever is cheaper.

You will STILL have USBs in front, they will be USB2 though, not USB3.

No you won't need any more cables, the chassis and motherboard comes with all the needed accessories.

 
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You don't understand, this is the flagship of the HSA architecture, there is literally nothing faster when it comes to operations that require shared cache by the video card and the CPU. Its faster, it will eat less power and you will have a very high settings 1080p gaming with room to spare for better other components such as more hard drive space of an even bigger monitor.

Don't throw away the benefits because of a nvidia fanboy stunt!

And if you ever decide to overclock, it will clock a lot higher because of lower TDP than that ancient FX that runs hotter than my grandma's broken oven, where the goose is burnt on the outside and still raw on the inside!
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