GTX 650 goes on my old video cards (GT 430) specs
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caymane
August 14, 2014 4:25:02 AM
I bought a GTX 650 recently, but according to GPU-z the video card is running on 700 core and 800 memory frequency. I also dont see any improvement in fps when im playing games.
I used a program called Vtune on my previous card, which can change the default frequencies. I didnt uninstall it when i changed the card. Is it possible that it changed the default specs?
Also, GPU-z says that the current bus interface is PCI-e x8. Should i reinstall my motherboard driver and then the vga driver?
I used a program called Vtune on my previous card, which can change the default frequencies. I didnt uninstall it when i changed the card. Is it possible that it changed the default specs?
Also, GPU-z says that the current bus interface is PCI-e x8. Should i reinstall my motherboard driver and then the vga driver?
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If you have an SLI motherboard ensure the GPU is installed in the primary PCIe x16 slot identifiable in your motherboard's manual.
I'd advise uninstalling your Vtune application. Also fully uninstall your GPU's drivers, reboot, download and install the latest (non-Beta) drivers from Nvidia's website.
I'd advise uninstalling your Vtune application. Also fully uninstall your GPU's drivers, reboot, download and install the latest (non-Beta) drivers from Nvidia's website.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 7:08:42 AM
i have a GIGABYTE 770T-D3L motherboard, it doesnt support SLI.
I've already uninstalled vTune and re-reinsalled the drivers but there is no change except for the bus interface. It recognises the PCI-E x16 now.
When i uninstall and reboot then the Windows automatic driver installer or whatever install a driver and it sets up those 700/800 Mhz frequencies. It recognises that its a gtx 650. although it only sees 96 shader processors.
A windows reinstall would solve the problem?
I've already uninstalled vTune and re-reinsalled the drivers but there is no change except for the bus interface. It recognises the PCI-E x16 now.
When i uninstall and reboot then the Windows automatic driver installer or whatever install a driver and it sets up those 700/800 Mhz frequencies. It recognises that its a gtx 650. although it only sees 96 shader processors.
A windows reinstall would solve the problem?
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Don't allow automatic driver installer to install for you. Follow this guide:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/82137-drivers-turn...
Delete the automatically installed drivers and reboot your system.
Download the latest non-Beta drivers and manually install them.
Hopefully that will fix the problem.
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/82137-drivers-turn...
Delete the automatically installed drivers and reboot your system.
Download the latest non-Beta drivers and manually install them.
Hopefully that will fix the problem.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 7:37:50 AM
caymane
August 14, 2014 8:08:11 AM
It's very possible your PSU is slightly underpowered for your GPU. A 400w PSU is recommended for the Geforce 650. However, that's a conservative estimate and personally I'd recommend 500w or more.
If at all possible try your GPU in a different system - preferably one with a high-powered PSU. If you get the chance, try a 500w or greater PSU in your current rig.
It's very possible the GPU is underperforming due to power constraints. If that's the case it means your PSU is working at maximum capacity, which can be very taxing for the component.
If at all possible try your GPU in a different system - preferably one with a high-powered PSU. If you get the chance, try a 500w or greater PSU in your current rig.
It's very possible the GPU is underperforming due to power constraints. If that's the case it means your PSU is working at maximum capacity, which can be very taxing for the component.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 8:19:23 AM
Follow this process to remove your old drivers:
Go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager > Display Adapters > Right-Click GPU and Select 'Properties' > Go to the 'Drivers' Tab > Click 'Uninstall'.
Verify the Uninstall was successful by proceeding to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Add / Remove Programs > Look for your drivers in the list - if they're still there Uninstall them.
Reboot your system and install the newest drivers available from the manufacturer's website.
If this fails, consider trying a driver removal program, many of which are available free online, to cleanly remove all old drivers from your system.
If the system believes your new card is your old card, it can only be as a result of residual drivers, potentially because VTune will edit driver and registry files.
Go to Control Panel > System > Device Manager > Display Adapters > Right-Click GPU and Select 'Properties' > Go to the 'Drivers' Tab > Click 'Uninstall'.
Verify the Uninstall was successful by proceeding to Control Panel > Programs and Features > Add / Remove Programs > Look for your drivers in the list - if they're still there Uninstall them.
Reboot your system and install the newest drivers available from the manufacturer's website.
If this fails, consider trying a driver removal program, many of which are available free online, to cleanly remove all old drivers from your system.
If the system believes your new card is your old card, it can only be as a result of residual drivers, potentially because VTune will edit driver and registry files.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 9:06:14 AM
Another option is that you may be CPU bottlenecked in the game(s) you've tested. It'd be difficult to bottleneck a GTX 430 or GTX 650, but an old Athlon X2, original Phenom, or Core 2 Duo could do it. Anything along those lines.
A change from ~50w to ~65w shouldn't really be enough to cause problems, and tbh it doesn't sound like a PSU issue to me. Every time I've heard of a PSU underperforming, the PC would shut down randomly in games.
A change from ~50w to ~65w shouldn't really be enough to cause problems, and tbh it doesn't sound like a PSU issue to me. Every time I've heard of a PSU underperforming, the PC would shut down randomly in games.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 9:35:37 AM
caymane said:
i dont know, i checked the frequencies with aida64, and through nvidia control panel and all of them wrote the same datas. I will try to reinstall windows, that should solve the problem for sure, right?If you're dealing with a software (driver / registry) error then reinstalling Windows almost certainly should fix it.
Before reinstalling Windows try the advice listed in this thread:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/358664-33-uninstall...
It's specific to the GT 430. However, instead of installing the GT430 Drivers, install your new GTX 650 drivers.
Try the tip of running a Driver Cleaner in Safe Mode.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 10:47:39 AM
caymane
August 14, 2014 11:49:41 AM
Are you certain the card is installed in the PCIe x16 slot of your motherboard?
You could list your motherboard here and I'll point out the correct slot or consult your motherboard's manual to confirm it's in the PCIe x16 slot.
SLI / Crossfire capable motherboards often have the secondary PCIe slot running at 8x.
It's also possible that you might be running a PCIe x16 1.0 motherboard. This will cause bottlenecks in the card's performance.
You could list your motherboard here and I'll point out the correct slot or consult your motherboard's manual to confirm it's in the PCIe x16 slot.
SLI / Crossfire capable motherboards often have the secondary PCIe slot running at 8x.
It's also possible that you might be running a PCIe x16 1.0 motherboard. This will cause bottlenecks in the card's performance.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 12:10:32 PM
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/120626/IMG_20120626_112018_www.k...
The video card is in the blue slot in the middle, there is a "PCI Express 2.0" nearby. That is the right slot, right?
My motherboard is a GIGABYTE 770T-D3L.
The video card is in the blue slot in the middle, there is a "PCI Express 2.0" nearby. That is the right slot, right?
My motherboard is a GIGABYTE 770T-D3L.
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caymane said:
http://kepfeltoltes.hu/120626/IMG_20120626_112018_www.k...The video card is in the blue slot in the middle, there is a "PCI Express 2.0" nearby. That is the right slot, right?
That is indeed the correct slot.
You could try checking your BIOS to see what statistics it reports about the card. Creating a new hardware profile in the BIOS could potentially correct the problem.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 12:26:00 PM
im not really familiar with the BIOS. I didnt find anything about the video card in the bios, only cpu and ram and some other things.
Where can i find the hardware profile?
my BIOS looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFLRCwhjujM
on the left i didnt find any useful, i didnt try what does the other side do. Should i load the optimized defaults?
Where can i find the hardware profile?
my BIOS looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFLRCwhjujM
on the left i didnt find any useful, i didnt try what does the other side do. Should i load the optimized defaults?
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caymane said:
im not really familiar with the BIOS. I didnt find anything about the video card in the bios, only cpu and ram and some other things.Where can i find the hardware profile?
my BIOS looks like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFLRCwhjujM
on the left i didnt find any useful, i didnt try what does the other side do. Should i load the optimized defaults?
You're looking for the PCI-E x16 slot information. There may be an option attached to this setting to change the slot's speed. You should ensure the slot is set to x16.
You could also try Control Panel > System > Device Manager > Display Adapters and check what your GPU is listed as there.
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caymane
August 14, 2014 12:58:30 PM
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caymane
August 14, 2014 9:59:27 PM
i'm pretty sure its the VGA BIOS. i wrote the version number in the google and its the GT 430's version... I'll try to update it but it sounds risky.
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The VGA BIOS should work if it has the same device ID? mine is 10DE-0FC6.
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?architecture=NVIDIA&manufacturer=&model=GTX+650&interface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=2048&did=10de-0fc6--
These BIOS versions should be compatible then, right?
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The VGA BIOS should work if it has the same device ID? mine is 10DE-0FC6.
http://www.techpowerup.com/vgabios/index.php?architecture=NVIDIA&manufacturer=&model=GTX+650&interface=PCI-E&memType=GDDR5&memSize=2048&did=10de-0fc6--
These BIOS versions should be compatible then, right?
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caymane
August 15, 2014 5:17:52 AM
i tried to flash a GTX 650 vBIOS, but i got errors.
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10B0.0FC6)
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (0000.0000).
WARNING: Firmware image Board ID (E010) does not match adapter Board ID (CE07).
I also tried to flash a GT 430 vBIOS (its interesting, that the Board ID is similar in this one)
WARNING: Firmware image Board ID (CE13) does not match adapter Board ID (CE07).
ERROR: GPU Mismatch
The modification date is 07/03/14, so its not my fault, it seems like someone screw up the vBIOS before me.
It seems like a faulty card, it was too cheap to be true. I'll contact the seller and hoping for a full refund.
BUT my old GT 430 doesnt work now. when i try to boot, the comp beeps 1 long and 2 short. It means monitor or graphic card error. How could i make it work?
WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10B0.0FC6)
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (0000.0000).
WARNING: Firmware image Board ID (E010) does not match adapter Board ID (CE07).
I also tried to flash a GT 430 vBIOS (its interesting, that the Board ID is similar in this one)
WARNING: Firmware image Board ID (CE13) does not match adapter Board ID (CE07).
ERROR: GPU Mismatch
The modification date is 07/03/14, so its not my fault, it seems like someone screw up the vBIOS before me.
It seems like a faulty card, it was too cheap to be true. I'll contact the seller and hoping for a full refund.
BUT my old GT 430 doesnt work now. when i try to boot, the comp beeps 1 long and 2 short. It means monitor or graphic card error. How could i make it work?
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caymane said:
i tried to flash a GTX 650 vBIOS, but i got errors.WARNING: Firmware image PCI Subsystem ID (10B0.0FC6)
does not match adapter PCI Subsystem ID (0000.0000).
WARNING: Firmware image Board ID (E010) does not match adapter Board ID (CE07).
I also tried to flash a GT 430 vBIOS (its interesting, that the Board ID is similar in this one)
WARNING: Firmware image Board ID (CE13) does not match adapter Board ID (CE07).
ERROR: GPU Mismatch
The modification date is 07/03/14, so its not my fault, it seems like someone screw up the vBIOS before me.
It seems like a faulty card, it was too cheap to be true. I'll contact the seller and hoping for a full refund.
BUT my old GT 430 doesnt work now. when i try to boot, the comp beeps 1 long and 2 short. It means monitor or graphic card error. How could i make it work?
Try cleaning the PCIe x16 slot with Isopropyl Alcohol.
Test one or both GPUs in a different PC to rule out hardware failure. If they don't work you have a bad card or cards.
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August 18, 2014 3:30:24 AM
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