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August 15, 2014 7:12:16 AM

Hi, I am a week away from building my ultimate gaming rig !

Please help me decide which single unit graphics card should I opt for (price not a factor) which can keep me immersed in gaming for the next 2-3 years on games like BF4/COD Ghosts/Crysis 3 etc etc.

or should I look at a SLI/Crossfire option?

Note: I use a single Samsung 54 cms LCD Monitor which runs on 1920x1080 resolution.

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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 7:16:09 AM

single gpu would be 780 ti, or you can wait for the 800 series to be out next month, they will have a better pirce/performance ratio
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August 15, 2014 7:26:58 AM

I kinda have my heart set on the EVGA Geforce GTX 780ti KINGPIN Classified edition.. but open to other options as well.. I am not an experienced overclocker but would like to keep all options open in furure hence the above mentioned one is my primary choice.

If I go for a dual SLI with the GTX 780ti KINGPIN classified, will it give me a better experience on fps n stuff on the monitor I mentioned ??

another one- if the new GTX 800 series is getting launched within a month or so, will the prices of 700 series drop ? hell I can afford twO GTX 780tis now, but looking from a different point of view as well :-)
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 7:31:51 AM

Kingpin is only good if you ln2 cool, for air cooling get the evga dual classified, it's cheaper but offers the same really, to get the kingoin would be buying a f1 car to go to the shops, you can brag, but it will never reach its true potential, get a dual classified instead and yes the 700 series price will drop
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August 15, 2014 7:52:29 AM

thank you for the prompt responses LEGEND !! Admittedly, I am a noob regarding the new techs. I will go for Corsair water cooling on the CPU (think the LN cooling is very very expensive and meant for the pros at achieving records). Have yet to decide on either i5k or i7k with the ASUS MAXIMUS Formula Mobo or as I see swansongs often about the ASROCK Z97 series.. 16GB Corsair Dominatior Platinum 2400 (4*4/2*8).. Corsair AX1200i PSU.. and a lot of air cooling on the case. I might also exchange my old LCD with the new 4k displays but it will always be a single display screen at highest resolutions. Any ideas about the configuration or if you have better choices.. ?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 7:57:18 AM

Well a 780 ti classified will be better, if your build is gaming only, a I5 4690k will be enough with a asus maximus hero, then 8gb of dominator platinum :)  for 4k a single 780ti can get up to 60fps so that is do able
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 7:59:59 AM

So as far as I can tell this build will be:

i5 4690k/i7 4790k
Corsair H Series AIO cooler (e.g. H100i)
ASUS Maximus vii Formula/ASRock Z97
16GB Corsair Dominator Platinum
EVGA Classified GTX 780ti
Corsair AX1200i

Is this correct?

If so, and you are only gaming, as above drop to 8GB ram, get the i5 4690k, overclock it with that cooling system and motherboard (both are good, just make sure the ASRock is approved for SLi), and you should be good to go :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:01:24 AM

Why formula though? It's only worth it if you custom water loop, if you like the thermal armour look, get the sabertooth mk1 :)  but rest is fine
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:03:39 AM

legend001523 said:
Why formula though? It's only worth it if you custom water loop, if you like the thermal armour look, get the sabertooth mk1 :)  but rest is fine


This. The ASUS Z97 Sabertooth is my dream motherboard (not gonna lie) for a few reasons, it's ASUS so the build quality is second to none, the TUF armour is amazing, and its has a RIGHT ANGLED USB3.0 HEADER. These USB 3 headers annoy me so much when they're pointing upwards...
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:05:28 AM

Ahaha glad you like it, comes with a 5 yr warranty also, im getting the nk2 myself maybe :D 
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:09:09 AM

legend001523 said:
Ahaha glad you like it, comes with a 5 yr warranty also, im getting the nk2 myself maybe :D 


very nice :)  I'm gonna stick with my awful motherboard for now (ASUS mATX H61 board, it works as I have a non-K CPU) but when I eventually get a new CPU, probably Broadwell or whatever comes after that, I will be getting a K series chip with an OC'ing motherboard, so hopefully ASUS's Sabertooth line sticks around until then
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:13:35 AM

It will, there is also a rumoured sabranco edition where it has snow camo on it :D 
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August 15, 2014 8:19:57 AM

guys, you all are very much more experienced than me.. that's for sure.. I have a budget of about 3000-3333 $.. please make a configuration with a-z components required to build from scratch as per your views.. and please, EVGA Geforce 780ti classified dual SLI is a must ! thanks a ton guys !!
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:25:21 AM

Why sli? Any colour schrmes? And i7 or i5
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:30:55 AM

How about this as a starting point?

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($238.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1050W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Total: $2900.89
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-15 11:30 EDT-0400

To be honest though, on a single 1920x1080 monitor this is WAY overkill. A single 780ti would easily suffice
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August 15, 2014 8:34:46 AM

the rig is gonna be only for gaming n household multimedia purposes.. but 99% for gaming alone. and dusn't matter if it's an i5k or i7k (hyperthreading n as much as I know they don't help in gaming maybe 2-5 fps more).. highest resolution on a 4k display.. what would you go for if u had to build a rig around a budget of not less than 3000 $
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:39:27 AM

Kk, ill easily fit in a sli and any coliur schemes? I think black and red are quite common
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:39:46 AM

Oh and do you need a monitor included and keyboard mouse os?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:40:13 AM

rohitbose said:
the rig is gonna be only for gaming n household multimedia purposes.. but 99% for gaming alone. and dusn't matter if it's an i5k or i7k (hyperthreading n as much as I know they don't help in gaming maybe 2-5 fps more).. highest resolution on a 4k display.. what would you go for if u had to build a rig around a budget of not less than 3000 $


I'd build what I posted 4 posts up, but like I say a single 780ti is borderline overkill for a single 1920x1080 monitor, let alone 2 in SLi.

If you really want SLi though, then the rig I posted is $2900. With the extra $400 you specified as the max for your budget, you could get a nice 1440p monitor (maybe even 1600p) from newegg. Logan from Tek Syndicate is a big advocate for the Korean monitors they sell, so check out his review of them :)  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rQtubyNCQA&list=UUNovo...
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August 15, 2014 8:42:17 AM

I will exchange the 1920x1080 LCD with a 4k display later.. so building for that.. but it will always be a single screen display.
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August 15, 2014 8:44:53 AM

yes.. the 3000$ (3333$ max) budget has to include everything like a gaming keyboard n mouse.. except the 4k display which I will upgrade later when the prices drop a bit.. sorry for the confusion :-(
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:46:00 AM

You might be better served only getting one 780ti now, and buying the other when you get the 4k monitor. I'm guessing the 4k monitor upgrade is at least a few months away if not more, so the price of the 780ti should have dropped by then
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:46:18 AM

Kk, i wont be at home for the next 5 hrs so I'll just pm you the build later
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August 15, 2014 8:52:09 AM

yes.. the 4k display will be an upgrade in 2/3/4 months time.. Color scheme dusn't matter.. I will me waiting for your build config guys.. no problem when u find some time.. I have a general question also.. how much fps would a single 780ti classified give and a dual SLI 780ti classified give on a single 4k display.. will it vary much or SLI is advisable for other performance boosts as well other than fps ?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:53:11 AM

This is the same as the last build with added Corsair Gaming Keyboard and mouse

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4790K 4.0GHz Quad-Core Processor ($329.99 @ Newegg)
CPU Cooler: Corsair H100i 77.0 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($94.99 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: Asus SABERTOOTH Z97 MARK 1 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($238.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($162.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Samsung 850 Pro Series 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($188.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 3TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($99.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 Ti 3GB Dual Classified ACX Video Card (2-Way SLI) ($679.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Corsair 760T White ATX Full Tower Case ($169.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 1050W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($159.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (32/64-bit) ($94.99 @ B&H)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K70 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($129.99 @ Amazon)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($49.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $3080.87
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-15 11:52 EDT-0400
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 8:54:02 AM

Thank you for your patience :)  on 4k a sibgle classified will get 50-60, sli will give you 80+
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August 15, 2014 9:02:27 AM

great graphs ^^^ CGurrell^^^
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:08:40 AM

rohitbose said:
great graphs ^^^ CGurrell^^^


No worries :)  Also note that there are multiple games tested in the drop down menu on that link, just be sure to look at the 3480x2160 graphs
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August 15, 2014 9:19:17 AM

from the graphs, what I understood is GTX 780ti is the fastest card out there (even faster than the more expensive TITAN) when used as a single GPU. However it will come good if it is used as a single card.. or the SLI used at a 2560x1440. that's when it trumps the Radeon series mostly.. but on higher resolution like 3840x2160, the R9 290X CF wins mostly.. correct me of I am wrong.. and what's UBER btw..
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:22:08 AM

Don't know but radeon cards can get quite hot sometimes and bear in mind not all games support sli, so for games that don't, you have to disable a gpu and that's where a nvidia sli will be better also :) 
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:23:32 AM

rohitbose said:
from the graphs, what I understood is GTX 780ti is the fastest card out there (even faster than the more expensive TITAN) when used as a single GPU. However it will come good if it is used as a single card.. or the SLI used at a 2560x1440. that's when it trumps the Radeon series mostly.. but on higher resolution like 3840x2160, the R9 290X CF wins mostly.. correct me of I am wrong.. and what's UBER btw..


I think Uber is simply the name of the PC that has the CF 290x's in. The 780ti is better for gaming than the titan, however the titan is mainly a rendering GPU, which is why it's more expensive.

The 290x is a great card, and tbh I prefer it over a regular 780, but if you were going to get dual 290x's, I would suggest the r9 295x2 as it exhausts most it's heat directly out of the case via a 120mm radiator.

More graphs here http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/gtx_780_ti_sli_gef...
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August 15, 2014 9:36:07 AM

the R9 295x2 is a 1500$ card.. :-( although it's a dual chip GPU.. Titan Z is 3,000$.. Titan Z Black is about 2000/2100$.. I can get dual SLI classified 780tis for 1300/1350$.. on a price/performance level and without compromising nawt, the classified dual SLI gtx 780tis make much more sense.. what say guys ?!?
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:38:42 AM

I prefer the sli cause its evga and lets you experiment with ocing to the max and also there are voltage unlocking tools on the internet for it aswell :D  not to mention if you fk up your card via ocing, evga replaces it I hear
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August 15, 2014 9:43:09 AM

lol.. one point for EVGA
UBER = CrossfireX (whatever the hell it means
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:45:26 AM

rohitbose said:
the R9 295x2 is a 1500$ card.. :-( although it's a dual chip GPU.. Titan Z is 3,000$.. Titan Z Black is about 2000/2100$.. I can get dual SLI classified 780tis for 1300/1350$.. on a price/performance level and without compromising nawt, the classified dual SLI gtx 780tis make much more sense.. what say guys ?!?


Go for Dual 780ti classified's for 4k. As i said, IF you were going for dual 290x's I'd say to consider the 295x2, but dual 780ti's will do you proud :) 

Then again, maybe you should wait until the 800 series cards are released, as they may contain something more relevant to your needs
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August 15, 2014 9:45:28 AM

quote "Flipping the switch to enter "uber" mode raises the card's blower speed from 40% to 55% of its potential maximum. (Don't .... Radeon R9 290X CrossFire is a beast for gaming! I love it."."
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August 15, 2014 9:53:54 AM

when the 800 series launches, the prices will be sky high.. even if they come with some new tech which the normal eye can't distinguish, I will still look at the 780tis if I do wait around, with an added advantage of prices coming down. Plus, when a new series is launched, it's not the final product of the series.. classifieds get launched way after after looking at pros n cons and after much tweaking.. btw, 870 n 880 will still be Kepler whereas the lower ones 820,830,850 will be on Maxwell.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:56:49 AM

rohitbose said:
when the 800 series launches, the prices will be sky high.. even if they come with some new tech which the normal eye can't distinguish, I will still look at the 780tis if I do wait around, with an added advantage of prices coming down. Plus, when a new series is launched, it's not the final product of the series.. classifieds get launched way after after looking at pros n cons and after much tweaking.. btw, 870 n 880 will still be Kepler whereas the lower ones 820,830,850 will be on Maxwell.


That's very true, but there's a lot we don't know about the 800 series, e.g. if an 890 card is released which is better than 2 780ti's for less money, then that would clearly be more viable
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 9:57:36 AM

No, the 880 is supposed to be under 500 dollars while offering 780 ti performance, that's what makes it so appealing to ppl llanning to buy pcs this quarter, and wiyhin a week most manufacturers release their own, the classified did take a year roughly to be released but the superclocked version of evga will be out, so will the asus dcii and gigabyte will release one too within a week or 2
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August 15, 2014 10:12:51 AM

@ Legend
as u said, 880 would be 500$ and 780ti performance.. so a SLI on 880 is roughly 1000$ and that too, on a unproved new series.
after the launch of 800 series, prices may fall for 700.. so a classified 780ti SLI would cost about (2*600) = 1200$ roughly of not less and it's a tried and tested formula..

the following has been taken from NVidia's own website..
"While it was expected that Nvidia Corp. plans to launch two high-end graphics cards this October, the company apparently intends to release three new products aiming different market segments that month. The launch of three new products will help Nvidia to maximize its sales later this year.
Hermitage Akihabara web-site reports that Nvidia plans to introduce high-end GeForce GTX 870 and GeForce GTX 880 graphics cards based on the GM204 graphics processor in early October. In late October the company intends to release GeForce GTX 860 graphics adapter aiming mid-range market segment. It is likely that the solution will also be based on the GM204 graphics processing unit.
Keeping in mind that the GeForce GTX 860 will unlikely cost substantially more than $300/£200, it is logical to assume that the GM204 chip is not too expensive to manufacture.

What is unclear is what performance levels will be offered by the new GPUs. Theoretically, the GeForce GTX 880 should be faster than the GeForce GTX 780, however, that graphics card is based on the GK110 GPU, which is the world’s most complex graphics processor ever designed and which is probably more expensive to make than the GM204.
Nvidia’s GM204 graphics processing unit is based on the second-generation Maxwell architecture and is made using 28nm process technology."

I still say 780ti classifieds.. ;-)
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 10:16:33 AM

I'm behind you on that :)  that was my gpu of choixe for my build until I saw the inno3d 780ti ichill herculez dhs edition :p  but yes, sli 780 ti ftw
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August 15, 2014 10:19:27 AM

@ CGurrell
880 will never double the performance of 780 being less costly as the company would be sitting with unsold 700 stocks.. it can only happen if 700 series prices are reduced to half or lesser than that.. either way it's worth the wait..

btw, here's the link to the read..
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-s...
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 10:20:29 AM

rohitbose said:
@ CGurrell
880 will never double the performance of 780 being less costly as the company would be sitting with unsold 700 stocks.. it can only happen if 700 series prices are reduced to half or lesser than that.. either way it's worth the wait..

btw, here's the link to the read..
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/anton-s...


Note: I didn't say 880. I said 890
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August 15, 2014 10:41:00 AM

don't think 890 will be released this year though.. only 860,870 n 880 as per the articles as it looks.
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a b 4 Gaming
August 15, 2014 10:44:43 AM

^true dat
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