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Hello all. I am new to building and would like some recommendations for parts. I'm on a budget so I've decided on the i5 4690 processor. What motherboards work well with this and cost less than 200? Also, same question with graphics card. Beyond that it's just the power supply, ssd, hd, RAM, cooling fan, and case right? Don't really need an optical drive. Any help would be appreciated :) budget is around 800.
 
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lol the 780 doesnt really trump the r9 290 and the r9 290x beats it and is on par with it. Especially at 4k or many multi monitors the r9 with 4gb vram is a way better choice. The r9 290 is usually 399$ from asus, asus is known to be quiet and have great cooling(28Dcb i think). The gtx 780 is 450-600$ depending if you get the cheap or top tier, the r9 290x is around 500$-600$ max the 780ti for 5-7fps more you pay (700$-900$).
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Do you need an operating system.

The build Kunthankenthe built is a really nice build for the money. I'll post it with my preference of case...Actually the price of his build just went up on pcpricepicker.com. Here is pretty much his same build with a few tweaks.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.05 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($77.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon R9 280X 3GB Dual-X Video Card ($239.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-DREAMER4-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Total: $833.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-15 21:17 EDT-0400
 
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Oh damn yeah, I forgot about the OS. I do need that :/ Also I should mention I want to game on this thing, and I do have a monitor already. I don't need much memory right now, as I plan to add more later. A cheap case is fine with me.
 
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never add 4gb to another 4gb they wont work at all/well. so either you get a 2x2 pack of 4gb or just a 4gb kit and add a 2x4gb latter.
 
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If it's for gaming, I would suggest losing the SSD and getting a better GPU.
 
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If there's a better deal than this, I haven't seen it. $15 less if no k (no overclocking)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1750592

$800 is lil tough for the rest

At this budget level, choosing a SSD will leave ya stuck with a low budget excruciatingly slow HD like the WD Blue which places 63rd on THGs HD charts..... a SSHD OTOH will give you most of the speed of the SSD

SSD boots in 15.6 seconds
SSHD boots in 16.5 seconds

$84 Seagate 1TB SSHD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178381

$90 - Case - At $90 nothing comes close tp the Case of the Year award winner for 2014
Add $10 for the windowed version ... anudder $10 if ya like white
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854003
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854004
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811854005

RAM:
2133 CAS 9 is running $100 for 2 x 4GB
1866 CAS 9 is running $90 for 2 x 4GB
1600 CAS 9 is running $85 for 2 x 4GB

Pick where ya think ya price break point is .... average gaming improvement is very small (2-4%) but in some games (F1, STALKER) can hit 11%.

Cost increase on ya $1200 box is 1.25%

Say $25 for a Hyper 212....drop if not OC'ing
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103099

That leaves us $500 for a PSU and GFX (I went with the 2133 RAM

$450 MSI 780
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127746

$65 XFX Core Edition puts ya $15 over ya $800 budget
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207014

Tho,.....I'd do an 850 watter and buy a 2nd 7870 soon after then 880 comes out next month.

$95 puts ya $45 over ya $800 budget with the XFX Core Edition....
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817207011

$15 more will get ya a Seasonic M12
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151108





 
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basically a ssd transfer files faster,edits fast,renders, and loads things in times a hdd can only dream of. It is not the biggest factor but once you get a ssd the next build WILL HAVE TO HAVE A SSD you'll become addicted to the speed and allergic to hard drive. BTW dont get a SSHD or a solid state(ssd is solid state) hard drive it really wont go faster it only has like 64mbs of ss storage.
 
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its bad. the 660 is way to weak to play modern games, the i5 46xx is a waste unless overclocking the 4570/4590 will perform just aswell. dont waste 900$.
that psu will blow in 2 months literally get a evga psu the 750w is 50$. get the noctua d14/15 instead of the h60 and get the z97x or z97 asrock fatality
 
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What do you think of this. And it stays on budget.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4590 3.3GHz Quad-Core Processor ($188.99 @ NCIX US)
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty H97 Killer ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($81.05 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-DREAMER4-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $797.94
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-15 21:55 EDT-0400
 
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SSDs don't have to wait for platters to spin and find stuff....it's no lag storage

Well put it this way.....

Test 1 - Two laptops .... one with SSD + HD and one with SSHD. No one in the office can tell them apart after 6 months

Test 2 - Single Desktop w/ (2) 256 GB SSHDs and (2) 2 TB SSHDs

a) Two SSDs in RAID 0 / SSHDs in RAID 1
b) OS and Programs on SSD1 / Games on SSD2
c) OS and programs on SSHD1 / Data on SSHD2

No one could tell them apart.

A. RAID did nothing
B. If you used a stopwatch while booting you could tell the difference (15.6 versus 16.5 seconds)....If you ran a disk benchmark you could see a big difference.
C, Running AutoCAD by day and games by night off the SSHD or the SSD was indistinguishable.





 
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Sweet. Here is also a better option for $30 over budget. For the extra money you get an overclockable i5(though I didn't include a CPU cooler suited for overclocking, so you would have to add that when you decide to overclock) and a Z97 board which is suited for overclocking.

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4670K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($227.38 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: MSI Z97 PC MATE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($79.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Kingston Fury Red Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Kingston SSDNow V300 Series 120GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($59.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon HD 7870 2GB Video Card ($131.98 @ Newegg)
Case: Apevia X-DREAMER4-BL ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ Mwave)
Power Supply: EVGA SuperNOVA NEX 750W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total: $835.27
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-15 22:01 EDT-0400
 
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i like it except the ssd. http://www.overclock.net/t/1457629/psa-about-the-kingston-v300-ssd-probable-foul-play-by-kingston

also topic creator the cpu cooler will add a extra 30$ for a exceptable one, 60$ for a good one and 100$ for the best.
 
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I personally would spend the extra money, as that CPU is long considered the CPU to compare other CPU's to for gaming purposes(untill the 4690k came along). I mean it's the first $800 that's hard to come up with, another 35 would be well worth the increase you get in performance in the future.

If not, I would still get the Z97 board instead of the board in the first post. It's a better board for the same price.
 
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