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August 16, 2014 6:38:41 AM

I have an Asus K55A laptop and I am looking to upgrade my CPU and have been searching about for CPUs on Amazon Because I don't trust Ebay. Is it possible for me to use these CPU in my laptop-
Intel Core i7-620M

And where can I buy CPUs other than Amazon and Ebay?

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August 16, 2014 6:59:09 AM

You cannot upgrade your laptop CPU as its soldered to the CPU socket.
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August 16, 2014 7:54:39 AM

Another "expert"...

Laptop CPUs can be changed, by desoldering them. You can't do it yourself, but computer repair shop / service can.

These are supported CPUs:

Intel® Core™ i7 3610QM
Intel® Core™ i5 3210M
Intel® Core™ i3 3110M

http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K55A/specifica...

And probably other CPUs with rPGA 988B socket (Socket G2; FCPGA988).

And BTW, rPGA means that this CPU is not soldered (it has pins).
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August 16, 2014 8:06:37 AM

Slobodan-888 said:
Another "expert"...

Laptop CPUs can be changed, by desoldering them. You can't do it yourself, but computer repair shop / service can.

These are supported CPUs:

Intel® Core™ i7 3610QM
Intel® Core™ i5 3210M
Intel® Core™ i3 3110M

http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K55A/specifica...

And probably other CPUs with rPGA 988B socket (Socket G2; FCPGA988).

And BTW, rPGA means that this CPU is not soldered (it has pins).

Thank you for the reply and do you know anywhere I can buy the CPUs?
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August 16, 2014 8:09:08 AM

I think that you can only buy them second hand. So like eBay, Amazon, and other similar sites. It is best to find them in your local ads / sites (in your country), in case someone sells you a non working CPU:
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August 16, 2014 8:12:59 AM

Slobodan-888 said:
I think that you can only buy them second hand. So like eBay, Amazon, and other similar sites. It is best to find them in your local ads / sites (in your country), in case someone sells you a non working CPU:

I tried Ebay and I think the guy has scammed me that's why I would like to use different sites.
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August 16, 2014 8:13:23 AM

Yes only idiots like you would try to desolder it and damage the whole unit and cry here. Remember that your laptop was set up for that particular cpu and removing it can lead to problems.
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August 16, 2014 8:28:03 AM

rounakr94 said:
Yes only idiots like you would try to desolder it and damage the whole unit and cry here. Remember that your laptop was set up for that particular cpu and removing it can lead to problems.


Are you calling me or him an idiot?
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August 16, 2014 8:44:40 AM

Is it worth mentioning! Since your laptop runs on a battery its not worth to change the cpu. If it was a desktop the that would be a different case.
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August 16, 2014 8:47:55 AM

rounakr94 said:
Is it worth mentioning! Since your laptop runs on a battery its not worth to change the cpu. If it was a desktop the that would be a different case.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about, So will just stick to the other guys replies.

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August 16, 2014 8:51:09 AM

FuriousGamer said:
rounakr94 said:
Is it worth mentioning! Since your laptop runs on a battery its not worth to change the cpu. If it was a desktop the that would be a different case.

You don't seem to know what you are talking about, So will just stick to the other guys replies.



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August 16, 2014 1:49:58 PM

Don't upgrade the cpu on a laptop

Laptops are known for being poorly up-gradable. Upgrade to an ssd and if possible get more ram. If you get a fast processor it will most likely overheat because the cooler is made for the specific one. Also, depending on the cpu, it may not fit in your laptop because of proprietary connections. If it somehow works, drivers will be a HUGE issue and your warranty will be long gone and it will probably kill it. On an alienware you can go through quite some difficulty and upgrade the gpu, but NOT THE CPU. Don't do it. If so, update me on the dead laptop :) 
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August 16, 2014 2:42:25 PM

Pcbuilder123 said:
Don't upgrade the cpu on a laptop

Laptops are known for being poorly up-gradable. Upgrade to an ssd and if possible get more ram. If you get a fast processor it will most likely overheat because the cooler is made for the specific one. Also, depending on the cpu, it may not fit in your laptop because of proprietary connections. If it somehow works, drivers will be a HUGE issue and your warranty will be long gone and it will probably kill it. On an alienware you can go through quite some difficulty and upgrade the gpu, but NOT THE CPU. Don't do it. If so, update me on the dead laptop :) 


Intel said it should be fine as long is has a lower than the maximum voltage.
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August 16, 2014 2:49:00 PM

Best case you will need to update the bios, get a soldering iron and change it out and redownload the os and reinstall it. Why do you want to do this, by the way? You could much rather build a desktop or get a decent laptop instead
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August 16, 2014 6:38:07 PM

^Let him do what he wants, he is just one of those arrogant kids we come across everyday. But remember if anything bad happens we wont take any responsibilities.
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August 16, 2014 9:24:56 PM

Alright, sounds like a plan. Update us, though :) 
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August 17, 2014 11:26:20 PM

rounakr94 said:
^Let him do what he wants, he is just one of those arrogant kids we come across everyday. But remember if anything bad happens we wont take any responsibilities.


Pcbuilder123 said:
Alright, sounds like a plan. Update us, though :) 



The other CPU I originally ordered has been dispatched. when it arrives I will switch it and update you. Oh and another thing I am not arrogant just you are saying things that I know are wrong that's all.
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August 18, 2014 12:08:54 AM

I would recommend not doing it yourself, but taking it to the computer repair shot. Even taking laptop apart alone is tricky.

For example, my low-end laptop is such a low quality construction, that after 3 disassemblys, it completely fallen apart (it is now mostly held by super-glue). Even screen hinges, that are made of (low quality) metal, broke.
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August 18, 2014 2:49:17 AM

We'll see
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August 18, 2014 2:55:09 AM

You really want him to fail, don't you?
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August 18, 2014 11:21:41 AM

rounakr94 said:
We'll see


Lol

Slobodan-888 said:
You really want him to fail, don't you?


Yeah he seems to be wishing for it.

I just got an update from royal mail. It is guaranteed to be delivered tomorrow, If I get out of bed in time.

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August 18, 2014 12:15:20 PM

Haha dude de-soldering a laptop CPU and installing a new one is SO much more complicated that you can even begin to understand. First off let's pretend you have the $1,500 soldering set-up that would allow you enough control to do this. Second lets pretend you are good enough with it to not overheat the solder joint (that is almost microscopic btw) while removing and re installing the CPU, instantly destroying the CPU and socket. 3 lets pretend you can repeat this process over 1000 times for all of the contacts on the CPU... Ok so if all of this isn't enough to scare you off let's address the facts that your laptops power delivery and cooling system was designed for that exact cpu in the system. Adding something that sucks more power and runs hotter will ruin your laptop. PS any shop who actually do this job properly will charge over $300 and that is worth more than the laptop.
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August 18, 2014 12:24:32 PM

cmi86 said:
Haha dude de-soldering a laptop CPU and installing a new one is SO much more complicated that you can even begin to understand. First off let's pretend you have the $1,500 soldering set-up that would allow you enough control to do this. Second lets pretend you are good enough with it to not overheat the solder joint (that is almost microscopic btw) while removing and re installing the CPU, instantly destroying the CPU and socket. 3 lets pretend you can repeat this process over 1000 times for all of the contacts on the CPU... Ok so if all of this isn't enough to scare you off let's address the facts that your laptops power delivery and cooling system was designed for that exact cpu in the system. Adding something that sucks more power and runs hotter will ruin your laptop. PS any shop who actually do this job properly will charge over $300 and that is worth more than the laptop.

There is no soldering involved with my laptop.

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August 18, 2014 12:30:20 PM

cmi86 said:
Haha dude de-soldering a laptop CPU and installing a new one is SO much more complicated that you can even begin to understand. First off let's pretend you have the $1,500 soldering set-up that would allow you enough control to do this. Second lets pretend you are good enough with it to not overheat the solder joint (that is almost microscopic btw) while removing and re installing the CPU, instantly destroying the CPU and socket. 3 lets pretend you can repeat this process over 1000 times for all of the contacts on the CPU... Ok so if all of this isn't enough to scare you off let's address the facts that your laptops power delivery and cooling system was designed for that exact cpu in the system. Adding something that sucks more power and runs hotter will ruin your laptop. PS any shop who actually do this job properly will charge over $300 and that is worth more than the laptop.


You don't know what youre talking about.

First, this cpu is in rPGA package. rPGA = reduced pitch pin grid array, meaning it is not soldered. It has pins just like desktop CPU, only the distance between pins is smaller.

Second, soldering/desoldering BGA (ball grid array) package components is done with hot air rework station, which can be bought for as much as 50 quid.

Third, soldering is not done by soldering individual balls at a time (which are not microscopic btw), but by heating up the top (or bottom, from the other side of the motherboard) of the CPU with hot air, until balls melt and solder the CPU too its footprint.
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August 18, 2014 12:32:20 PM

OK say that is true, what are you going to do about the extra voltage needed to supply that cpu that your motherboard isn't designed to supply ? Also what are you going to do with all the extra heat generated that the CPU cooler was never designed to dissipate. Go ahead man do what you want, ain't like I haven't been doing this for 10+ years. Just remember, we did tell you so.
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August 18, 2014 12:32:46 PM

Slobodan-888 said:
You don't know what youre talking about.

First, this cpu is in rPGA package. rPGA = reduced pitch pin grid array, meaning it is not soldered. It has pins just like desktop CPU, only the distance between pins is smaller.

Second, soldering/desoldering BGA (ball grid array) package components is done with hot air rework station, which can be bought for as much as 50 quid.


You look like you are the only one who is listening.
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August 18, 2014 12:34:17 PM

cmi86 said:
OK say that is true, what are you going to do about the extra voltage needed to supply that cpu that your motherboard isn't designed to supply ? Also what are you going to do with all the extra heat generated that the CPU cooler was never designed to dissipate. Go ahead man do what you want, ain't like I haven't been doing this for 10+ years. Just remember, we did tell you so.


The voltage of the new CPU is less than the recommend maximum voltage of the motherboard and when you say you have been doing this for 10+ years but don't know what rPGA stands for dosen't give me confidence in agreeing with what you say.
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August 18, 2014 12:37:24 PM

cmi86 said:
OK say that is true, what are you going to do about the extra voltage needed to supply that cpu that your motherboard isn't designed to supply ? Also what are you going to do with all the extra heat generated that the CPU cooler was never designed to dissipate. Go ahead man do what you want, ain't like I haven't been doing this for 10+ years. Just remember, we did tell you so.


Are you saying that same laptop models use different motherboards for every CPU that is offered for that laptop? And also use bigger heatsinks for more powerful CPUs rather than just using same heatsink capable of cooling all CPUs offering by the laptop model?

I really don't know, but based on logic, I would say that is is not in any way viable to manufacture motherboard that only supports 1 CPU as well as having to manufacture multiple heatsinks instead of using same one.
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August 18, 2014 12:48:42 PM

My perspective on this is that if you are skilled enough to de-solder and replace a laptop's CPU, you probably aren't someone who would be asking the Tom's Hardware forums about it in the first place.

I'm sure its "possible" to do this, at least for certain users, but that doesn't mean its worth doing. Seems like it would be more expensive than it's worth, and with the risk of bricking the motherboard fairly easily.
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August 18, 2014 12:52:38 PM

FuriousGamer said:
This is the one- Intel Core i7 3610QM


And what was your original CPU?

P.S. If you are doing this on your own, remember to install the latest BIOS first (with the old CPU). Unless BIOS version you have already supports new CPU.
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August 18, 2014 12:58:24 PM

Slobodan-888 said:
FuriousGamer said:
This is the one- Intel Core i7 3610QM


And what was your original CPU?

P.S. If you are doing this on your own, remember to install the latest BIOS first (with the old CPU). Unless BIOS version you have already supports new CPU.

Intel Celeron B820.
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August 18, 2014 1:00:59 PM

OK, it is the same socket.
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August 18, 2014 1:02:31 PM

Slobodan-888 said:
OK, it is the same socket.


Yeah I made sure I knew the socket before searching.
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August 18, 2014 1:51:50 PM

OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.



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August 18, 2014 2:02:14 PM

cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




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August 18, 2014 2:11:58 PM

FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




Our big problem is that you 2 are sitting here talking this guy in to undertaking something that is widely frowned upon for several very good reasons. His CPU could be bga, could be (r)pga he really wont know until he spits the chassis. That said you could very well be right in that there are no solder points and that would indeed make this project a lot less risky. Still there are the questions of the TDP issues and what to do with them. Laptops are intentionally very closed very specific environments for a reason. Things like what you guys are telling this man to do don't often work and that is just real world experience. I'm not trying to be out right rude, what I am trying to do is stop someone from accepting bad advice and quite possibly botching their machine. And when he does hes gonna come back here to Toms... Not that anyone will really be held liable but it makes the whole site look bad.



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August 18, 2014 2:16:53 PM

cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




Our big problem is that you 2 are sitting here talking this guy in to undertaking something that is widely frowned upon for several very good reasons. His CPU could be bga, could be (r)pga he really wont know until he spits the chassis. That said you could very well be right in that there are no solder points and that would indeed make this project a lot less risky. Still there are the questions of the TDP issues and what to do with them. Laptops are intentionally very closed very specific environments for a reason. Things like what you guys are telling this man to do don't often work and that is just real world experience. I'm not trying to be out right rude, what I am trying to do is stop someone from accepting bad advice and quite possibly botching their machine. And when he does hes gonna come back here to Toms... Not that anyone will really be held liable but it makes the whole site look bad.




There is no solder points I have personal taken this laptop apart to the very core taken the CPU out and then back in as that is how my brain works.

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August 18, 2014 2:20:57 PM

Slobodan-888 said:
Another "expert"...

Laptop CPUs can be changed, by desoldering them. You can't do it yourself, but computer repair shop / service can.

These are supported CPUs:

Intel® Core™ i7 3610QM
Intel® Core™ i5 3210M
Intel® Core™ i3 3110M

http://www.asus.com/Notebooks_Ultrabooks/K55A/specifica...

And probably other CPUs with rPGA 988B socket (Socket G2; FCPGA988).

And BTW, rPGA means that this CPU is not soldered (it has pins).


Do you really think there are many people that can desolder and replace a BGA cpu? Your average computer repair shop isn't even going to know what BGA means.
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August 18, 2014 2:23:34 PM

FuriousGamer said:
I have an Asus K55A laptop and I am looking to upgrade my CPU and have been searching about for CPUs on Amazon Because I don't trust Ebay. Is it possible for me to use these CPU in my laptop-
Intel Core i7-620M

And where can I buy CPUs other than Amazon and Ebay?


I have done over 2000 eBay transactions since 1999 about 50/50 buying and selling. I have never once had an issue. eBay is the best way to source lots of computer gear.
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August 18, 2014 2:27:51 PM

bmacsys said:
FuriousGamer said:
I have an Asus K55A laptop and I am looking to upgrade my CPU and have been searching about for CPUs on Amazon Because I don't trust Ebay. Is it possible for me to use these CPU in my laptop-
Intel Core i7-620M

And where can I buy CPUs other than Amazon and Ebay?


I have done over 2000 eBay transactions since 1999 about 50/50 buying and selling. I have never once had an issue. eBay is the best way to source lots of computer gear.


The guy I bought the CPU off was causing some problems with me. It might just be my lack of experience on Ebay. I try to use Amazon as I have Prime.
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August 18, 2014 2:30:34 PM

FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




Our big problem is that you 2 are sitting here talking this guy in to undertaking something that is widely frowned upon for several very good reasons. His CPU could be bga, could be (r)pga he really wont know until he spits the chassis. That said you could very well be right in that there are no solder points and that would indeed make this project a lot less risky. Still there are the questions of the TDP issues and what to do with them. Laptops are intentionally very closed very specific environments for a reason. Things like what you guys are telling this man to do don't often work and that is just real world experience. I'm not trying to be out right rude, what I am trying to do is stop someone from accepting bad advice and quite possibly botching their machine. And when he does hes gonna come back here to Toms... Not that anyone will really be held liable but it makes the whole site look bad.




There is no solder points I have personal taken this laptop apart to the very core taken the CPU out and then back in as that is how my brain works.



Well that is good and I applaud you for being able to do so as most people can not do that. So one hurdle out of the way.
Now I am honestly asking what you plan to do about the voltage and cooling problems ? I know it would seem like a manufacturer would commonly create parts to save cost but in the real world that is simply not the case and is actually the exact opposite. 1 model of laptop can have 3 different motherboards with a handful of revisions each. The i3 model may have one heat pipe/ 1 fan i5 may have 2 heat pipes/ 1 fan i7m may have 3 heatpipes/1 fan i7QM may have 4 heatpipes and a different cooler design with a higher RPM fan. This I'm sure is not the exact configurations simply an example for you. The point I am making is manufacturers often engineer laptops at the bare minimum to keep the prices down and increase profit margin. i3 has less power draw and less heat. So less vrm hardware on the board and a smaller lower rated power brick plus a smaller less expensive copper cooling solution with cheaper lower RPM fan, This is how the laptop falls in to the $400 price range as opposed to carrying all this extra hardware/cost and falling in to a higher price bracket.

Again I am not trying to be rude and just save some trouble by explaining in detail the reasons this doesn't get done very often like you think it does.
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August 18, 2014 2:37:33 PM

cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




Our big problem is that you 2 are sitting here talking this guy in to undertaking something that is widely frowned upon for several very good reasons. His CPU could be bga, could be (r)pga he really wont know until he spits the chassis. That said you could very well be right in that there are no solder points and that would indeed make this project a lot less risky. Still there are the questions of the TDP issues and what to do with them. Laptops are intentionally very closed very specific environments for a reason. Things like what you guys are telling this man to do don't often work and that is just real world experience. I'm not trying to be out right rude, what I am trying to do is stop someone from accepting bad advice and quite possibly botching their machine. And when he does hes gonna come back here to Toms... Not that anyone will really be held liable but it makes the whole site look bad.




There is no solder points I have personal taken this laptop apart to the very core taken the CPU out and then back in as that is how my brain works.



Well that is good and I applaud you for being able to do so as most people can not do that. So one hurdle out of the way.
Now I am honestly asking what you plan to do about the voltage and cooling problems ? I know it would seem like a manufacturer would commonly create parts to save cost but in the real world that is simply not the case and is actually the exact opposite. 1 model of laptop can have 3 different motherboards with a handful of revisions each. The i3 model may have one heat pipe/ 1 fan i5 may have 2 heat pipes/ 1 fan i7m may have 3 heatpipes/1 fan i7QM may have 4 heatpipes and a different cooler design with a higher RPM fan. This I'm sure is not the exact configurations simply an example for you. The point I am making is manufacturers often engineer laptops at the bare minimum to keep the prices down and increase profit margin. i3 has less power draw and less heat. So less vrm hardware on the board and a smaller lower rated power brick plus a smaller less expensive copper cooling solution with cheaper lower RPM fan, This is how the laptop falls in to the $400 price range as opposed to carrying all this extra hardware/cost and falling in to a higher price bracket.

Again I am not trying to be rude and just save some trouble by explaining in detail the reasons this doesn't get done very often like you think it does.


I don't know the members names but I made a thread a while ago when I first got into this and they were saying the voltage of the new one was low enough to not cause any problems.

Also, Is it really not done that often? I thought people did it all the time.
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August 18, 2014 3:21:31 PM

FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




Our big problem is that you 2 are sitting here talking this guy in to undertaking something that is widely frowned upon for several very good reasons. His CPU could be bga, could be (r)pga he really wont know until he spits the chassis. That said you could very well be right in that there are no solder points and that would indeed make this project a lot less risky. Still there are the questions of the TDP issues and what to do with them. Laptops are intentionally very closed very specific environments for a reason. Things like what you guys are telling this man to do don't often work and that is just real world experience. I'm not trying to be out right rude, what I am trying to do is stop someone from accepting bad advice and quite possibly botching their machine. And when he does hes gonna come back here to Toms... Not that anyone will really be held liable but it makes the whole site look bad.




There is no solder points I have personal taken this laptop apart to the very core taken the CPU out and then back in as that is how my brain works.



Well that is good and I applaud you for being able to do so as most people can not do that. So one hurdle out of the way.
Now I am honestly asking what you plan to do about the voltage and cooling problems ? I know it would seem like a manufacturer would commonly create parts to save cost but in the real world that is simply not the case and is actually the exact opposite. 1 model of laptop can have 3 different motherboards with a handful of revisions each. The i3 model may have one heat pipe/ 1 fan i5 may have 2 heat pipes/ 1 fan i7m may have 3 heatpipes/1 fan i7QM may have 4 heatpipes and a different cooler design with a higher RPM fan. This I'm sure is not the exact configurations simply an example for you. The point I am making is manufacturers often engineer laptops at the bare minimum to keep the prices down and increase profit margin. i3 has less power draw and less heat. So less vrm hardware on the board and a smaller lower rated power brick plus a smaller less expensive copper cooling solution with cheaper lower RPM fan, This is how the laptop falls in to the $400 price range as opposed to carrying all this extra hardware/cost and falling in to a higher price bracket.

Again I am not trying to be rude and just save some trouble by explaining in detail the reasons this doesn't get done very often like you think it does.


I don't know the members names but I made a thread a while ago when I first got into this and they were saying the voltage of the new one was low enough to not cause any problems.

Also, Is it really not done that often? I thought people did it all the time.


People rarely upgrade anything in a laptop. Occasionally ram. The odd SSD.
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August 18, 2014 3:22:46 PM

FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:
OK man like I said, do what you want. I tried to talk a little sense in to you but if you don't want to listen to real world experience and would rather go with these guys who I can almost guarantee know absolutely nothing of what they are actually talking about and are simply googleing everything as they go well then that is on you too. Just remember I highly doubt they will be so willing to put forth their 2 cents when you run back here crying because you lappy doesn't work anymore.

BTW Slobodan you are real crafty with google... did you know this laptop is available with CPU's that are BGA as well and some of the available CPU's may actually use either platform depending on the implementation. Keep reading wiki's, you'll get to that part eventually.

I don't see what you and the other guys big problem is you say you have years of experience, That may be true but when your main argument is that soldering is a problem and multiple people have told you there is no soldering you still seem to be certain of my failure like it is some sort of impossible task.




Our big problem is that you 2 are sitting here talking this guy in to undertaking something that is widely frowned upon for several very good reasons. His CPU could be bga, could be (r)pga he really wont know until he spits the chassis. That said you could very well be right in that there are no solder points and that would indeed make this project a lot less risky. Still there are the questions of the TDP issues and what to do with them. Laptops are intentionally very closed very specific environments for a reason. Things like what you guys are telling this man to do don't often work and that is just real world experience. I'm not trying to be out right rude, what I am trying to do is stop someone from accepting bad advice and quite possibly botching their machine. And when he does hes gonna come back here to Toms... Not that anyone will really be held liable but it makes the whole site look bad.




There is no solder points I have personal taken this laptop apart to the very core taken the CPU out and then back in as that is how my brain works.



Well that is good and I applaud you for being able to do so as most people can not do that. So one hurdle out of the way.
Now I am honestly asking what you plan to do about the voltage and cooling problems ? I know it would seem like a manufacturer would commonly create parts to save cost but in the real world that is simply not the case and is actually the exact opposite. 1 model of laptop can have 3 different motherboards with a handful of revisions each. The i3 model may have one heat pipe/ 1 fan i5 may have 2 heat pipes/ 1 fan i7m may have 3 heatpipes/1 fan i7QM may have 4 heatpipes and a different cooler design with a higher RPM fan. This I'm sure is not the exact configurations simply an example for you. The point I am making is manufacturers often engineer laptops at the bare minimum to keep the prices down and increase profit margin. i3 has less power draw and less heat. So less vrm hardware on the board and a smaller lower rated power brick plus a smaller less expensive copper cooling solution with cheaper lower RPM fan, This is how the laptop falls in to the $400 price range as opposed to carrying all this extra hardware/cost and falling in to a higher price bracket.

Again I am not trying to be rude and just save some trouble by explaining in detail the reasons this doesn't get done very often like you think it does.


I don't know the members names but I made a thread a while ago when I first got into this and they were saying the voltage of the new one was low enough to not cause any problems.

Also, Is it really not done that often? I thought people did it all the time.


People say a lot of things, are you willing to bet your laptop on what "people say" ?
There are just so many variables it honestly does just come down to a crap shoot of what will happen when you power on

One motherboard revision may be BGA that only has BIOS available to support i5 up to 35w
Next motherboard revision may be (r)PGA that has all available BIOS i7 up to 35w
next motherboard revision may be (r)PGA that only has BIOS for i7 45w
next motherboard revision may be BGA that only has BIOS for i3 up to 25w

again this is merely an example I have illustrated to show you it is far more complicated than just saying "oh it fits in the hole so it should work..."

It's like bolting a pair of bone stock 307 cylinder heads on to an 800HP street rod. Will they bolt on, yeah... will it run, probably not... Might it start, maybe.... but it certainly won't run as it should.

As far as folks tearing apart their laptops to put in un confirmed hardware and hope it all turns back on and functions properly based on "someone said it should work" no that is not very common.
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August 18, 2014 3:33:15 PM

cmi86 said:


People say a lot of things, are you willing to bet your laptop on what "people say" ?
There are just so many variables it honestly does just come down to a crap shoot of what will happen when you power on

One motherboard revision may be BGA that only has BIOS available to support i5 up to 35w
Next motherboard revision may be (r)PGA that has all available BIOS i7 up to 35w
next motherboard revision may be (r)PGA that only has BIOS for i7 45w
next motherboard revision may be BGA that only has BIOS for i3 up to 25w

again this is merely an example I have illustrated to show you it is far more complicated than just saying "oh it fits in the hole so it should work..."

It's like bolting a pair of bone stock 307 cylinder heads on to an 800HP street rod. Will they bolt on, yeah... will it run, probably not... Might it start, maybe.... but it certainly won't run as it should.

As far as folks tearing apart their laptops to put in un confirmed hardware and hope it all turns back on and functions properly based on "someone said it should work" no that is not very common.


I have emailed Asus support team to see what they say.
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August 18, 2014 4:50:07 PM

Wow..... Dude that is like using 4770 on an h81 board. Is the socket type even the same? Is the tdp under the coolers max? Really, is this upgrade even worth the risk??
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August 18, 2014 6:17:35 PM

FuriousGamer said:
cmi86 said:


People say a lot of things, are you willing to bet your laptop on what "people say" ?
There are just so many variables it honestly does just come down to a crap shoot of what will happen when you power on

One motherboard revision may be BGA that only has BIOS available to support i5 up to 35w
Next motherboard revision may be (r)PGA that has all available BIOS i7 up to 35w
next motherboard revision may be (r)PGA that only has BIOS for i7 45w
next motherboard revision may be BGA that only has BIOS for i3 up to 25w

again this is merely an example I have illustrated to show you it is far more complicated than just saying "oh it fits in the hole so it should work..."

It's like bolting a pair of bone stock 307 cylinder heads on to an 800HP street rod. Will they bolt on, yeah... will it run, probably not... Might it start, maybe.... but it certainly won't run as it should.

As far as folks tearing apart their laptops to put in un confirmed hardware and hope it all turns back on and functions properly based on "someone said it should work" no that is not very common.


I have emailed Asus support team to see what they say.


There ya go. You seem dedicated to doing this and if you really are that gung ho about it contacting asus is a great place to start. They know more about this situation than anyone here that can help you, myself included. My intent was never to be rude and I hope you understand that. I just wanted to get you to really understand the complexity of what your are getting in to and and wrap you brain around all the variables that are actually involved as opposed to the common sense stuff that immediately comes to mind. Good luck !
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August 18, 2014 7:45:03 PM

Same man. Didn't mean to discourage you, it will be a bit hard and maybe not worth it. If you save the skills and tools it might just work.
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