Best price/performance/quality gaming/working/'mobile' rig under 950€/765GBP/1275$! HELP!

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Hello guys!

Being a "client" of tomshardware for a while, but now I need experts help to check what I've come to!
I'm looking towards building a good gaming rig (with Wi-fi, m-atx preferred since I'll be moving quite often) for about the mentioned price or less, without peripherals, and I currently have this:

http://de.pcpartpicker.com/b/cW3Ff7

CPU -> (Intel Core i5-4690K 4x3.5GHz 6MB Turbo/IntelHD Sock1150 (Haswell)):
https://www.cyberport.de/intel-core-i5-4690k-4x3-5ghz-6mb-turbo-intelhd-sock1150-haswell-box-2002-56Y_696.html

Correct GPU -> (SAPPHIRE VAPOR-X TRI-X 280X 3gb-gddr5):
https://www.cyberport.de/sapphire-radeon-r9-280x-oc-vapor-x-tri-x-3gb-gddr5-2xdvi-hdmi-dp-full-retail-2E01-7CX_792.html

SSD -> (Crucial MX100 128GB):
https://www.cyberport.de/crucial-mx100-ssd-128gb-2-5zoll-mlc-sata600-7mm-3310-01Q_498.html

HDD-> (Western Digital Blue 1TB SATA III 64MB (WD10EZEX)):
http://www.pcdiga.com/2/8788/Disco-Western-Digital-Blue-1TB-SATA-III-64MB-WD10EZEX

M-itx motherboard -> (asus-z97i-plus ac) :
https://www.cyberport.de/asus-z97i-plus-sata600-r-m-2-dp-dvi-hdmi-vga-wifi-bt-z97-mini-itx-sockel-1150-2301-9GH_697.html
(the options was this one or ASRock Z97E-ITX/ac)

RAM-> (8GB (2x4GB) G.Skill Sniper DDR3-1866 CL9 (9-10-9-28) RAM DIMM):
https://www.cyberport.de/8gb-2x4gb-g-skill-sniper-ddr3-1866-cl9-9-10-9-28-ram-dimm-kit-2415-00A_698.html

PSU -> (Fonte XFX 650W XTR (P1-650B-BEFX)):
http://www.pcdiga.com/2/14049/Fonte-XFX-650W-XTR-P1-650B-BEFX

CASE: -> (Bitfenix-Prodigy-W-Nvidia-Edition):
http://www.pcdiga.com/2/11684/Bitfenix-Prodigy-W-Edicao-Nvidia-BFC-PRO-300-KKWSKNV


would you change anything, keeping same performance/price? Could I get a better rig for less money, with about the same quality?

P.S: The GPU I want is different from that in pc.partpicker. The correct one is listed above.

P.S.2: If I wanted to get a cheaper build, what should the CPU and MOTHERBOARD be, to fully support my GPU and dont be a bottleneck for the rig? Since those are the things I'm most unsure about!

Thanks for your replies and help guys!
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a tri-x will not have that much difference over the dual-x only that some people have compatibility issues with crysis 3 with the tri-x but aside from that bothh are pretty much the same. It is a good build considering you'll upgrade later on.
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Thanks for the reply!

Though I forgot to mention that I need a Mobo with Wireless, prefering mini or micro ATX for the size, since I'll be moving the rig to friends house frequently... And for +15Euros, the z97 seems better to me...

Another thing, if I can get the i5-4690k for 5 euros more, why should I go for the 4670k?

Yet another concern of mine, many friends are having problems/issues with crossfire/sli, so they adviced me to get a single card for now, since I won't be updating my rig in the next two/three years.

Yet another thing, why go for a bronze, less powerful and expensive PSU, when I have a Tier 1 one with gold performance?


Thanks again for the reply, hope you can enlight my doubts!

 
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I'll rebuild that build.

I chose the 4670k instead of the 4690k 'cause I assumed with a k processor and a z97 you will overclock. Both processors are the same except for a .1 difference in both frequency and cpuboss score. (http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4670K-vs-Intel-4690K) So if you really wanna go with a 4690k you could.

Well, I do agree with the XFIRE issue so I'll try to fit a 780 ti or 290 in there.

Well the psu issue was honestly just to fit in the budget.

Stay online for the updated rig.
 
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Updated build: http://de.pcpartpicker.com/p/42wCZL

Well, I still am assuming you're gonna overclock so I still went with a 4670k. There wasn't a single z79 board with wifi so I got you a z78. I went with a mini itx board and case and a single 770. a single 770 is better than a 290 if you want to compare. PSU is kinda overkill but I wanted a cheap semi modular so it wont be messy in that small case.
 
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Hi again.

Yes I intend to have the option to overclock, so I can get some extra juice if some game does not run at full 1080p smoothly in times to come. I also understand your choices for the second build, as I said pc.partpicker does not allow to select all boards with all prices and it is more alike with what I intend, but still I still prefer my build over yours:

- As I said, for 5 euros more I can get the i5-4690k.Why shouldnt I then? (I understand the differences are minimal, still)
- For the Mobo, you selected an z87 (not z78 :p) chip (well, that's fine, I looked at it as well, but it is more expensive than the z97 as you can see in my description link! so thats why I went for the new chip). Also, you have some other z97 m-itx with wireless:ASRock Z97E-ITXac - but only 1 year warranty, that's why I did not chose it and the MSI Z97I Gaming AC , that seem to me having less features than the Asus, and it is a lot more expensive;

Now, the GPU I chose, is the same price as the gtx770 and I think it's better because: it has better cooling (3 fans Vapor-x) and better benchmark results (http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2014-vga-charts/compare,3593.html?prod%5B6953%5D=on&prod%5B6797%5D=on) Note: the picture and name for the Mobo is wrong, google the reference, which is correct (11221-12-40G).
Any reason why should go with the gtx 770 over the Tri-x Vapor-x 280x that I'm not seeing?

And man, noooo way a 770 is better than a 290 :p Why you say that?
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/2014-vga-charts/compare,3593.html?prod%5B6783%5D=on&prod%5B6953%5D=on&prod%5B6797%5D=on

Now about the SSD, you got me thinking twice. Both drives seem good, but I can get the SAMSUNG for the same price as the crucial. Should I do the swap? Since is for gaming mostly, and the speeds of the EVO are more apealing, I think I you follow you on this one.

For the PSU,since your suggestion seems good and its more affordable, I will think in swap that as well, need to check the semi-modular from XFX and compare the prices (i don't know Lepa brand).

Thanks again!


 
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well, I will expand my resources outside pcpartpicker and research products myself. Again, you could go with a 4690k. But I forgot to put this in the build. An aftermarket cooler. O/Cing on stock will possibly overheat your cpu so get a good, high performance, low profile aftermarket air(or closed loop liquid if possible) cooler and O/C the heck out of it. Mini-itx cases aren't usually the best for O/Cing but with strategic placement airflow won't be a problem. I watched some benchmarks on youtube and You're right. 290 is better than 770. Most of my friends are nvidia fanboys and they tell me what's awesome about it. The only difference between samsung and crucial is reliability. Samsungs tend to last more. for gaming the only thing you'll notice from a SSD is blazing fast load times. So it's your choice. Lepa is a common brand here where I live (Philippines) since it is inexpensive and probably the only 80+ Gold I've ever seen. (I usually buy online for parts.) My friend's old 450w Lepa lasted 3 years before it fried 'cause of a faulty overclock. XFX is awesome though so you might have some options.
 
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Yes, I will go for the Samsung SSD.
Same price, same warranty, more reliablity. Thanks for the suggestion.

About the PSU, will have to check that brand, because XFX is simply great and comes with 5 years warranty on top of that, dunno about the Lepa.

And yes, pc.partpicker is very good to tell you about compabilities and stuff, and to build a PC very fast with nice layouts and stuff, but it kinda lacks on better options from where to buy parts (check www.cyberport.de, it ships to many countries and I couldn't find better prices. Also, the shipping costs were lower than the other sites I saw).

Wow, you're near to Australia, I'm thinking about moving in there, it's my dream country to live :).
Is it easy for you to get cheap components? Since you live on an island :p

P.S: About the OC, it's not for now, it's something to do in a year or so. But since the difference from a i5 4590 or 4460 to the 4690k it's about 40Euros, I think the 4690k it's a clever choice. Do you think a lower CPU as the ones I meantioned, will bottleneck the GPU?

Best regards.
 
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a 780 ti would normally cost 22,500 Php ($514) and shipping's no problem. (there's boats everywhere!) A 4590 Won't bottleneck a 280x. But buying a k processor now would save you much more money than buying something lower now then buying a newer one later.
 
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Ye, that's my dilema right now. I'll post the cheaper build that I have, with the normal Vapor-X 280x, not the beast that I want :(

Also, I saw that Lepa is about the same money in my country (80Euro, for the one you mentioned), and in cyberport.de (where I am ordering stuff) they dont have Lepa to compare prices, so I'll stick with the XFX.


 
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a tri-x will not have that much difference over the dual-x only that some people have compatibility issues with crysis 3 with the tri-x but aside from that bothh are pretty much the same. It is a good build considering you'll upgrade later on.
 
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