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Hello Guyz.
Straight to the point ,here is my current rig:
Intel Core i7 860
ASUS P7P55DLE
8 GB Ram (4*2,668 mhz)
GIGABYTE GTX 760 2 GB
1440x900 resolution.
2*1 TB HDD
I am planning to buy a new rig with following specifications:
GIGABYTE GA-Z97X-Gaming G1 WIFI-BK (MOTHERBOARD)
CPU: i7 4790k
RAM: G.SKILL 2400 mhz (dunno the model)
VGA: same as the old rig
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I have already asked for advise for the new rig so I told someone to buy it for me. (ofc I'll pay for it) So this is not the case.
The problem is with this current rig and current resolution, people say I shouldn't have any problems. But I am having problems. (Haven't gotten the new rig yet)
I can't even maintain steady 45 fps in need for speed rivals (silly game doesn't let you turn vsync off so you have to cap it some where) even sometimes it goes down to 20. Well It isn't only this. AC IV Is also crap. alot of fps drops everywhere. Even in hitman absolution highest settings I can't maintain 60fps. The shit becomes much worse when I turn physx on.Even The good ol Mafia 2 is unplayable at high physx. I also have problems in bf4. even sometimes in bad company 2. Are my Expectations too high (according to my rig). Or there is some problem here? Like software problem? My gut tells me I would still have these problems even if I get the new rig. What is wrong? should I throw away this silly 2gb 760 and get some new stuff?
Thanks for reading folks
 
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I'll check it out. Does cpu incompatibility with games only show itself as bottleneck? You know I am gonna get a 128 gb ssd for my new rig. I am gonna keep this os on this hdd and install another os in the new ssd to use it as my main Operating system and leave the old. that might help. I am also gonna get a significant increase in ram frequency and space.
The shit is so wired man are you sure it can run at 100 fps or more? Sounds a little strange pal...
 
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My brother has a 2GB GTX 760, and he hasn't encountered a game it can't max at 60 fps, aside from Crysis 3. Crysis 3 on ultra it's at 45-50 fps (and that can be pushed to 55-60 fps simply by reducing AA and switching motion blur to "camera" rather than the high-impact "object" at a nearly unnoticeable loss to image quality). But aside from that, over 60 fps in every game (100fps+ in many), and that's at 1920x1080, not 1440x900.
 
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Bro... AC black Flag, NFS Rivals etc. games you mentions are low optimized. Ubisoft biggest problem is low optimizing of games so frame-rates are not good, suddenly frame-rates down. EA games have performance bugs in most of games. Like BF4 has one of the biggest performance issues. Keep your drivers updated and when games update came then always update them. Then have some fixes.
 
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Most of the time when I hear about games being badly optimized it's coming from people with AMD CPUs, or older CPUs. People tend to underestimate the importance of a CPU's core-per-core performance to gaming. Mostly that's because Ubisoft games are meant for the consoles, and the engines are set up to spec for consoles, but when they make the PC port they move all the CPU reliance to 1-2 cores, rather than the 6 weak ones the PS3 has. This requires a CPU with extremely strong individual cores, not many cores. it's easy to keep Ubisoft games at playable framerates on even mid-lower range rigs, but they're CPU reliant and as a result you get diminishing returns on stronger and stronger video cards. By the time someone sticks in a GTX 780 Ti for Ubisoft games, it's always their CPU holding it back. Classic PS3 optimization quirks.

Having said that, I would bet that the poster's performance issues are mostly coming from his CPU. The i7-860 loses out badly in core-per-core performance to the i3-4130, and it's core-per-core performance that matters most in the games he listed, especially AC IV.

People sometimes ask me why I got the i3-4360. It's because it crushes badly optimized games, as 90% of the time 'badly optimized' is just slang for 'needs a CPU with stronger core-per-core performance'.
 
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Ty Guyz. Something is seriously wrong here. Even if I change the setting to the lowest possible and change the resolution to 1280x800 it is still the same shit. i mean in nfs rivlas.
@Rationale Do you think my upcoming i7 4790k would fix the problem?
BTW updating my gpu driver that just came out (apparently)
And also my problem is i can't maintain 60 fps in games which I think is probably natural. But prit87 said i can maintain 100 while i am having problems to maintain even 45. when you can't reach the fps cap in nfs rivals you will have serious problems. the game slows down. I'll update when I get the new rig
 
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If you change the settings and resolution and the framerate doesn't change much, that's a sure indicator of a CPU bottleneck, as I said.

Yes, your new i7 would most likely solve the problem. However, I should mention that new i7s are typically considered overkill for gaming. Not your old one, ofc. But the i5-4690K would offer identical gaming performance to the i7-4790K right now. It's only future games where the i7-4790K has a chance of performing better (depending on how quickly 8-thread optimization catches on).
 
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I know i7 4790k is overkill right now and i5 4690k is more cost efficient choice. I read the article in this website regarding to it (Best Gaming cpus for the money)
And I agree with it. But I don't see any harm on spending a little more on CPU. I'll update when I get the new rig
 
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Guyz wth! I updated my gpu drive to 340.52 and now it can even maintain 60 fps. However not solid all day long 60 fps. Sometimes it drops but It is really really better. I am confused.
BTW my cpu usage is about 50% while playing nfs rivals.
Guyz I don't know if I really should have upgraded. Maybe I really didn't need it. Anyway Hell to it, I am upgrading anyway.
The strange thing is on the change log of the driver it didn't even mention my vga or nfs rivals. It was all about improvement in metro: redux. And guyz I always update my vga. I had the latest version before this one came out.
And I haven't gotten the new rig yet..
 
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Bro... CPU usage doesn't remain same all the time, sometimes it gets lowered mostly when we move to main-menu or move from one place to other in games. The best CPU according to your GPU is core-i5. In almost all games frames-rates are different in every mission.
 
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It doesn't matter if you get a new OS, but you should reinstall the old one.
 
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