Sign-in / Sign-up
Your question
Solved

fps drops in all games on XFX 7970

Tags:
  • XFX
  • Games
  • FPS
  • Graphics
Last response: in Graphics Cards
August 17, 2014 1:18:53 PM

Hello I have a xfx 7970 and I have many problems with games that are getting fps drops like from 60fps to 20 fps while looking around or when there is much to render. the games that have fps issues are Saints Row 4, ace of spades, Skyrim, Hitman Absolution ect. I tried driver sweeper and tried various drivers and I already did bios updates and overclocks but there is no improvement. can someone help me?

rig:
XFX 7970 DOuble Dissipation 3gb
XFX PRO TS550 watt
AMD FX 8320 3,5Ghz
8GB ddr3 1600mhz corsair
1tb hdd
Windows 7 professional 64 bit

More about : fps drops games xfx 7970

August 18, 2014 12:49:49 PM

Quote:
Hello I have a xfx 7970 and I have many problems with games that are getting fps drops like from 60fps to 20 fps while looking around or when there is much to render


isn't that the norm for such situation? although i believe your GPU have enough power to get 60FPS in any situation in game like Skyrim/SR4. what about graphical setting? what setting did you use?
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:00:59 PM

I'm also using an XFX 7970. What version are you using? Is it the reference style version or the Double Dissipation (uses 2 fans; also called the Black Edition)
m
0
l
Related resources
August 18, 2014 1:02:38 PM

renz496 said:
Quote:
Hello I have a xfx 7970 and I have many problems with games that are getting fps drops like from 60fps to 20 fps while looking around or when there is much to render


isn't that the norm for such situation? although i believe your GPU have enough power to get 60FPS in any situation in game like Skyrim/SR4. what about graphical setting? what setting did you use?


actually I expected that the video card can run all games without fps dips under 30 on 1080p. even if there is much to render its never THAT much that it would lagg. I tried everything on low to ultra but the fps did not go higher.

and thanks that you respond on this thread. I like it when people take their time to help me out.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:07:47 PM

dovah-chan said:
I'm also using an XFX 7970. What version are you using? Is it the reference style version or the Double Dissipation (uses 2 fans; also called the Black Edition)


I am using the XFX Dissipation (non black edition) its the FX-797A-TDFC with dual fans.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:11:10 PM

Quote:
actually I expected that the video card can run all games without fps dips under 30 on 1080p. even if there is much to render its never THAT much that it would lagg. I tried everything on low to ultra but the fps did not go higher.


so it never happen before or it did happen from the very beginning? did you use different card before this?
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:12:38 PM

What temperature does it usually idle at? Mine hangs around 63℃ and I also get some fps drops in a few games that are otherwise non-intensive such as Sonic Generations. In Skyrim I do get extreme fps drops but that's because of the massive amount of graphics mods I have installed.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:19:47 PM

renz496 said:
Quote:
actually I expected that the video card can run all games without fps dips under 30 on 1080p. even if there is much to render its never THAT much that it would lagg. I tried everything on low to ultra but the fps did not go higher.


so it never happen before or it did happen from the very beginning? did you use different card before this?


yes a gtx 660 but that card was damaged and I bought this one instead. the drivers were uninstalled with driver sweeper before I installed AMD 14.4 drivers (tried 14.7 drivers but it made my situation worse). is there something in amd's software that let my card underperform?
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:20:55 PM

dovah-chan said:
What temperature does it usually idle at? Mine hangs around 63℃ and I also get some fps drops in a few games that are otherwise non-intensive such as Sonic Generations. In Skyrim I do get extreme fps drops but that's because of the massive amount of graphics mods I have installed.


skyrim is almost umodded (only hd textures from steam). but the card should handle that easily. my themps are like 59 degrees celcius max.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:33:31 PM

I know I've felt very wary about XFX's quality control and this can't just be a coincidence. I'm guessing that their cooler is not effective and is causing some sort of throttling leading to instability and variance in the frame rate. I've never had much to go on but now after seeing this I will go perform some of my own testing on the card, having seen another person with the same issues.

Another issue I think that might be causing these dips is unoptimized power delivery. This is could be due to XFX's custom PCB design lacking in proper power phase cooling and quality components.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:36:50 PM

dovah-chan said:
I know I've felt very wary about XFX's quality control and this can't just be a coincidence. I'm guessing that their cooler is not effective and is causing some sort of throttling leading to instability and variance in the frame rate. I've never had much to go on but now after seeing this I will go perform some of my own testing on the card, having seen another person with the same issues.

Another issue I think that might be causing these dips is unoptimized power delivery. This is could be due to XFX's custom PCB design lacking in proper power phase cooling and quality components.


well the coller is pretty quite and the temps are low (lowest was 26 degrees on idle) but there is something software based wrong. it haves the reference pcb (at least i think it is). well I hope there is a sollution to this. do I need an another cooler?
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:41:07 PM

did you use DDU to sweep the driver or using different software?
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 1:57:10 PM

renz496 said:
did you use DDU to sweep the driver or using different software?


yes I did use DDU to sweep the driver.
is my psu too weak? I have a xfx pro 550 watt 80plus bronze.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 2:14:20 PM

550w should be enough for 280X. as for DDU i think it is one of the best driver sweep program for nvidia/amd gpu right now but sometimes this kind of software can lead to more problem. personally i will only use DDU if uninstalling/reinstalling driver did not solve my issue.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 2:27:42 PM

XFX does not use the reference PCB for their double dissipation cooler cards. Well at one point in time they did, but this was way back when the 7970 first launched in 2011. After about 4 months they then switched to their own custom PCB and locked the voltages on their cards.
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 2:31:33 PM

dovah-chan said:
XFX does not use the reference PCB for their double dissipation cooler cards. Well at one point in time they did, but this was way back when the 7970 first launched in 2011. After about 4 months they then switched to their own custom PCB and locked the voltages on their cards.


oke my card is made in 2012 or so... well that sucks but strange that other people get huge fps without big drops while my card can get 137 fps in saints row 4 and get drops like 19 fps and then its unplayable. the same goes for games like ace of spades
m
0
l
August 18, 2014 2:59:43 PM

renz496 said:
550w should be enough for 280X. as for DDU i think it is one of the best driver sweep program for nvidia/amd gpu right now but sometimes this kind of software can lead to more problem. personally i will only use DDU if uninstalling/reinstalling driver did not solve my issue.


I have an amd hd 3000 onboard videocard. will that disturb my xfx 7970's performance? because my MSI gtx 660 had no problems at all and never had fps drops.
m
0
l
August 19, 2014 4:55:03 AM

It will not. Because when you use discrete GPU the on board GPU will not be used by the system. Have you tried reinstalling the games?
m
0
l
August 19, 2014 6:34:42 AM

renz496 said:
It will not. Because when you use discrete GPU the on board GPU will not be used by the system. Have you tried reinstalling the games?


yes I tried that but its fixed for 75% (I have upgraded to windows 8) and I have much fewer times fps drops.
now I am trying to get windows 8.1 and amd 14.7 driver and see what happens with the frame rate. the only problem I have now is that all my games does not exceed 60 fps (like vsync but in game the vsync = off). is there also a solution for that?
m
0
l

Best solution

August 19, 2014 6:38:40 AM

Did you use any third party software that can mess up with graphic setting? Also is there option to force v-sync in catalyst control center? If such option available make sure the option are not enabled.
Share
August 19, 2014 7:07:52 AM

renz496 said:
Did you use any third party software that can mess up with graphic setting? Also is there option to force v-sync in catalyst control center? If such option available make sure the option are not enabled.


thx the vsync problem is gone (before I upgraded to win8 I had flashed my bios to black edition version of the card so maybe its a little bit faster because of that and that I started fresh with a new windows installation). still I am not sure what the cause of the problem was but its fixed now by upgrading to windows 8.
m
0
l
August 19, 2014 9:54:04 AM

renz496 said:
Did you use any third party software that can mess up with graphic setting? Also is there option to force v-sync in catalyst control center? If such option available make sure the option are not enabled.


ehm... there is still one problem though. saints row 4 and far cry 3 can't be played at higher settings and keeps having fps issues. but the fps issues in gta 4 or ace of spades are gone.
m
0
l
August 20, 2014 7:19:15 AM

I've played (and beaten) Far Cry 3. The best settings that work for me is to put it at the ultra presets, set your MSAA to 2X, and instead of using HDAO use SSAO. Also make sure you either turn your max buffered GPU frames to either 2 or off (I use off). I also keep v-sync off since I can't keep a steady 60fps.

Oh and I'm unable to do any testing on my card for what issues might have really been causing it since I still get many unstable drops and I'm running on Windows 8.1. The reason why I'm unable to is because I'm a bit busy and I'm going to send my card to AMD for a completely different problem. I've been keeping in contact with an AMD rep and I've been helping him and the driver team troubleshoot a serious bug.
m
0
l
August 20, 2014 1:46:23 PM

dovah-chan said:
I've played (and beaten) Far Cry 3. The best settings that work for me is to put it at the ultra presets, set your MSAA to 2X, and instead of using HDAO use SSAO. Also make sure you either turn your max buffered GPU frames to either 2 or off (I use off). I also keep v-sync off since I can't keep a steady 60fps.

Oh and I'm unable to do any testing on my card for what issues might have really been causing it since I still get many unstable drops and I'm running on Windows 8.1. The reason why I'm unable to is because I'm a bit busy and I'm going to send my card to AMD for a completely different problem. I've been keeping in contact with an AMD rep and I've been helping him and the driver team troubleshoot a serious bug.


well after trying some games my gpu is still performing bad after all this afford! look at this in saints row 4 gameplay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaUHN19dQeg&feature=you... I hope you can help me with it..
m
0
l
August 20, 2014 2:06:21 PM

I had a XFX 7950 DD Black Edition and what i notice is that GPU usage and core clock keept throttling down i had to set the power limit to 17%-20% depending on the game, to get the usage stable and core clock at it's rated speed. That fixed the bad FPS and FPS drops. Might have the same issuse with 7970
m
0
l
August 20, 2014 11:09:15 PM

DJready said:
I had a XFX 7950 DD Black Edition and what i notice is that GPU usage and core clock keept throttling down i had to set the power limit to 17%-20% depending on the game, to get the usage stable and core clock at it's rated speed. That fixed the bad FPS and FPS drops. Might have the same issuse with 7970


I already had put the power settings on 20% but the card is getting pretty warm like 70 degrees Celcius on 53% load?
its strange.
m
0
l
August 20, 2014 11:50:23 PM

thats normal with power limit upped
m
0
l
August 21, 2014 12:49:59 AM

DJready said:
thats normal with power limit upped


well if my video card is above 40-50% the fps are smooth but if it goes below that then it will stutter. so its not normal.
it should be 70 degrees on 100% load. I am going to do an unigine heaven check and give you the results.
m
0
l
August 21, 2014 1:09:56 AM

DJready said:
thats normal with power limit upped


Unigine Heaven Benchmark 4.0

FPS:
31.0

Score:
781

Min FPS:
10.8

Max FPS:
70.1


System

Platform:
Windows NT 6.2 (build 9200) 64bit

CPU model:
AMD FX(tm)-8320 Eight-Core Processor (3500MHz) x4

GPU model:
AMD Radeon HD 7900 Series 14.100.0.0 (3072MB) x1


Settings

Render:
Direct3D11

Mode:
1920x1080 8xAA fullscreen

Preset
Custom

Quality
Ultra

Tessellation:
Extreme

is this good or bad? it is on max settings possible on 1080p.
m
0
l
August 27, 2014 5:25:28 AM

maybe you can google about 7970 unigine score to compare your score with others. or you can use the same setting used by reviewer to compare your score. but the score between unigine 3 and unigine 4 are not comparable. if i'm not mistaken at the same setting unigine 4 are much more demanding to run hence lead to much lower score than unigine 3. also it is weird that you got stutter when your GPU unitization are below 40%
m
0
l
August 31, 2014 10:41:20 AM

I had 6-10 fps less then others. but I do not own the amd 7970 card anymore (I switched to nvidia asus gtx 760 oc).
the card was on 100% load (but it only does that on unigine heaven and not in games where it stick between 15-50%).
But I am happy now with my geforce card.
m
0
l