How much fps should I get?

hamidd1234 · Aug 17, 2014

Cpu: Amd Phenom 9600 quad core @2.3 ghz
Gpu: Asus 7770 1gb ddr5
Ram: 4gb. 2x2 mushking silver line ram
Hard-drive: 1tb westren digital green 7200 rpm
Windows software: Windows 7 ultimate 64bit.
Psu: 650 watt Cooler Master psu.
MotherBoard: M4A-78E Asus.

How much fps do you think I should get with this on minecraft? Everything on low setting's, v-sync off.

Rayven2 · Aug 18, 2014

Perhaps around 50-60, what kind of monitor are you using?

hamidd1234 · Aug 18, 2014

Rayven2 :

its a small 15" how about in bf3?

Rayven2 · Aug 18, 2014

hamidd1234 :

Well not much of a point having v-sync off then, you might as well keep it on. As for bf3 you'll most likely get around 30-40 with ultra settings, so you might want to just play them on medium or high and get a solid 60ish

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hamidd1234 · Aug 18, 2014

Rayven2 :

Wow .-. I think theirs something wrong with my computer then, on ultra I get about 20-30 fps on low I can get 40 fps while looking down in an open area not too detailed :c and on minecraft I just dont know what to say... it drops down to 20 fps all the time at spawn.

Rayven2 · Aug 18, 2014

hamidd1234 :

Rayven2 :

Wow .-. I think theirs something wrong with my computer then, on ultra I get about 20-30 fps on low I can get 40 fps while looking down in an open area not too detailed :c and on minecraft I just dont know what to say... it drops down to 20 fps all the time at spawn.

It is just approximate estimations based only on the GPU itself, you might have some bottle necking due to the CPU. As for Minecraft it can strain much more while playing online on a server.. Still playable tho, hope that helps a bit.

Rationale · Aug 18, 2014

It's certainly a CPU bottleneck. The Phenom 9600 wasn't good when it was new, and now it's 7 years old. It's also just about the worst CPU in existence for Minecraft, due to how it handles multiple cores (or rather, how it doesn't handle them).

hamidd1234 · Aug 18, 2014

Rationale :

do you think this would be a good upgrade? http://www.newegg.ca/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.1800154

Rationale · Aug 18, 2014

hamidd1234 :

Yes. It's not an amazing CPU ofc, but it's strong for the price and would remove the bottleneck from your HD 7770. Also, if you upgrade your GPU in the future, the Athlon 750K is very easy to overclock for at least a bit of future-proofing.

If your main priority is Minecraft or MMOs, the Pentium G3258 is a better option.
If your main priority is most other games, the Athlon 750K ends up being roughly as good of a choice. A bit lower framerates than the Pentium G3258, with a bit better frametime variance to make up for it.

hamidd1234 · Aug 18, 2014

Rationale :

hamidd1234 :

Yes. It's not an amazing CPU ofc, but it's strong for the price and would remove the bottleneck from your HD 7770. Also, if you upgrade your GPU in the future, the Athlon 750K is very easy to overclock for at least a bit of future-proofing.

If your main priority is Minecraft or MMOs, the Pentium G3258 is a better option.
If your main priority is most other games, the Athlon 750K ends up being roughly as good of a choice. A bit lower framerates than the Pentium G3258, with a bit better frametime variance to make up for it.

How much fps do you think I would get with the athlon 750k compared with the intel Pentium? Will I be able to max out minecraft with 100fps?

Rationale · Aug 18, 2014

hamidd1234 :

With an HD 7770 and Pentium G3258, yes, you should put Minecraft on ultra at around 100+ fps. However, that's really not necessary, as most monitors only display up to 60 fps (60hz means it refreshes at a frequency of 60 times per second). Even turning vsync off does not allow the monitor to display more frames; it just allows the video card to draw more invisible (useless) frames.

The downside to vsync is not that it limits performance (because it doesn't), but rather that it consistently adds several milliseconds of input lag due to an inherent synchronization problem between monitors and video cards, regardless of your framerate.

There's no denying that Minecraft would benefit more from the Pentium G3258 than the Athlon 750K. However there's a mod for Minecraft called Optifine. It allows Minecraft to use more cores effectively, and would partially close the gap between the Pentium G3258 and Athlon 750K. In fact, you may want to try Optifine with your Phenom 9600 and see if it helps.

hamidd1234 · Aug 18, 2014

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hamidd1234 :

With an HD 7770 and Pentium G3258, yes, you should put Minecraft on ultra at around 100+ fps. However, that's really not necessary, as most monitors only display up to 60 fps (60hz means it refreshes at a frequency of 60 times per second). Even turning vsync off does not allow the monitor to display more frames; it just allows the video card to draw more invisible (useless) frames.

The downside to vsync is not that it limits performance (because it doesn't), but rather that it consistently adds several milliseconds of input lag due to an inherent synchronization problem between monitors and video cards, regardless of your framerate.

There's no denying that Minecraft would benefit more from the Pentium G3258 than the Athlon 750K. However there's a mod for Minecraft called Optifine. It allows Minecraft to use more cores effectively, and would partially close the gap between the Pentium G3258 and Athlon 750K. In fact, you may want to try Optifine with your Phenom 9600 and see if it helps.

I have optifine, also an optifine cape (I have my own youtube chanel) I pvp allot and I checked of the "multi-core still crap fps.

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