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August 18, 2014 6:57:39 AM

Hey guys, I'm in the process of building my new rig and I want to know if I would need an H100i (or something similar) or an air cooler like Hyper 212X would suffice. I've never tried liquid cooling before, never had the need for it but recent games have been a bit taxing on my CPU. Although the max temp I recorded so far was 78 degrees, I was using the stock intel cooler.

My usage includes gaming mostly and browsing and designing. I don't edit videos or use CPU heavy applications. My rig specs that I'm building are below. Plz note, I'm using some of old parts like my mobo and CPU :

CPU : Intel Core i5-3550
Motherboard : ASUS P8Z77-M PRO
RAM : Corsair Vengeance 8 GB
GPU : ASUS R9 280X DC2T
Case : NZXT H440
Storage : Segate 1TB HDD
PSU : Corsair CS650M
Display : Samsung S22B370, 1080p

My first choice was a Hyper 212X due to its low cost and fairly decent reviews.

p.s. I don't overclock :) 

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August 18, 2014 7:05:16 AM

Firstly, you don't need an af cooler with a locked CPU (like yours) and you can't really OC with it so getting any cooler isn't worth it. The Intel stock coolers are pretty decent until you decide to OC. I'd say go on with your stock cooler. OR if the temps are warm on stock cooler, get the CM Hyper EVO 212, nothing more :) 
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August 18, 2014 7:07:35 AM

stock cooler will be fine cause you can't oc
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August 18, 2014 7:49:13 AM

Is your GPU a reference blower cooler or is it a DCUII card? If it's the latter, then what's probably happening is that you're seeing higher than usual CPU temps during gaming because of the hot air that card exhausts back into your case.
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August 18, 2014 7:56:52 AM

PC noob said:
Yes a locked CPU will need lots of cooling or it will over heat. But don't forget to tape foam over it if you are scared of condensation or your pc will fail. If you are considering using liquid nitrogen then don't forget to pour some into your graphics card as it will speed it up whilst in use.

No it's not unlocked so you should be fine.

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August 18, 2014 7:58:50 AM

Right now I'm using a GTX 570 in my current build. I will be buying a 280X DC2T from Asus, updated the original post.
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August 18, 2014 8:16:21 AM

You still don't need any sort of cooling, neither for CPU (the stock ones're good) nor for GPU (Both Asus and Sapphire have proper cooling). Your call now.
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August 18, 2014 8:18:13 AM

Asus cooling is slightly better than sapphire, and more quiet.
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August 18, 2014 8:19:11 AM

I can't agree. Sapphire Tri X and Vapor X are the best AMD GPU coolers in the market!
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August 18, 2014 8:43:14 AM

Well the hyper 212X/evo should do better so if you're worried about the temps go for it.
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August 18, 2014 10:03:45 AM

some guy from another forum said:
I have Asus Direct CU, MSI Twin Froz and Sapphire Vapor X 7950

Speed:

1. Sapphire/ MSI
2. Asus (about 10% slower on same setting)


Noise:

1. Asus (Quiet)
2. MSI
3. Sapphire


Temperature:

1. Asus (coolest) GPU : 74 C, VRM1 : 78, VRM2 : 79
2. MSI GPU : 74 C, VRM1 : 82, VRM2 : 85
3. Sapphire. GPU : 74 C, VRM1 : 98, VRM2 : 102

Note,

ASUS, the Main GPU heat sink and VRM1 and VRM2 heatsink and connected together, hence the stable temperature.
Sapphire, GPU heatsink and VRM1 and VRM2 are separate, hence the big and high temperature in VRMs.
MSI, there are TWO VRAM which is NOT connected to the heatsink, very bad design.

For long term mining, ASUS direct CU is the BEST, but takes up 3 slots.


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August 18, 2014 10:11:01 AM

This topic is not about his gpu,maybe that you two can argue somewhere else? Maybe via pm?
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August 18, 2014 10:20:29 AM

Okay then goodbye :( 
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August 18, 2014 10:24:14 AM

Just research on Google about gap b/w heatsink (copper shim) and main unit in Asus GPUs, scores of issues.
Asus is good performance wise, not the best to go temp wise (Sometimes there's a noticible gap b/w copper blocks for heatsink and computing unit), especially in the R9 200 series. MSI/ Sapphire are good temp wise but Tri X/ Vapor X cruise ahead in performance, hence Sapphire.
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August 18, 2014 10:24:37 AM

Again,

Vic 40 said:
This topic is not about his gpu

he's talking about the stock intel cooler so get the point!

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August 18, 2014 10:27:32 AM

Vic 40 said:
Again,

Vic 40 said:
This topic is not about his gpu

he's talking about the stock intel cooler so get the point!



Oops sorry was typing so didn't see your msg, you're right.
OP: You don't need an af cooler as your CPU is locked, but if you really are experiencing warm temps, then get CM EVO 212, anything more would be a waste of money.
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August 18, 2014 11:08:30 AM

rohver said:
StupidNoob said:
For a budget build and if you want a water cooled cpu, then this would be quite good.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-TX3-Tower/d...


How does that compare to the Hyper 212X? TX3 is much cheaper. What about noise levels?



The Hyper 212 and the tx3 are better and at slightly better price points. For water cooled CPUs, I recommend larger radiators with tighter packed fins for better heat dissipation.
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August 18, 2014 11:30:09 AM

StupidNoob said:
For a budget build and if you want a water cooled cpu, then this would be quite good.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-TX3-Tower/d...

Does this mean,in the way that you tell it, that the hyper tx3 is water cooling according to you?
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August 18, 2014 6:09:18 PM

The Seidon 120V is a great case in my opinion and I would suggest it.
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August 18, 2014 6:23:08 PM

rohver said:
Hey guys, I'm in the process of building my new rig and I want to know if I would need an H100i (or something similar) or an air cooler like Hyper 212X would suffice. I've never tried liquid cooling before, never had the need for it but recent games have been a bit taxing on my CPU. Although the max temp I recorded so far was 78 degrees, I was using the stock intel cooler.

My usage includes gaming mostly and browsing and designing. I don't edit videos or use CPU heavy applications. My rig specs that I'm building are below. Plz note, I'm using some of old parts like my mobo and CPU :

CPU : Intel Core i5-3550
Motherboard : ASUS P8Z77-M PRO
RAM : Corsair Vengeance 8 GB
GPU : ASUS R9 280X DC2T
Case : NZXT H440
Storage : Segate 1TB HDD
PSU : Corsair CS650M
Display : Samsung S22B370, 1080p

My first choice was a Hyper 212X due to its low cost and fairly decent reviews.

p.s. I don't overclock :) 


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August 18, 2014 6:43:33 PM

What I have learned is unless you are doing extreme overclocking you do not need liquid cooling and then it should be custom. But that said if that be the reasoning of some that because you are not overclocking the stock cooler is fine, ding dong you may be wrong. If Granny has a 2.0 Ghz processor and turns it on twice a day to check email and face book obviously
the stock is fine unless she has no air conditioning and and ambient temps are high 90's or in the hundreds and she want to watch a dvd movie on her computer. It all depends on the situation. If you are doing anything that stresses your computer for sustained periods temperatures will rise and that is where stock coolers fail. It's the wise person that does not rely on them. Lets take your case. your gaming and getting temps that you do not like. They may be at or above the recommended thermal margin of your cpu. Is not the wise choice to keeps temps as low as reasonably possible for long cpu life ?.
YES!. Then the wise course is an aftermarket cooler. No wonder when tested along with average aftermarket coolers they are DEAD last. The Hyper 212 would be a wise choice.
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August 19, 2014 2:22:36 AM

Vic 40 said:
StupidNoob said:
For a budget build and if you want a water cooled cpu, then this would be quite good.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Cooler-Master-Hyper-TX3-Tower/d...

Does this mean,in the way that you tell it, that the hyper tx3 is water cooling according to you?


sora said:
The Seidon 120V is a great case in my opinion and I would suggest it.

How does the Seidon 120V compare to the hydro series from corsair?
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August 19, 2014 6:53:41 AM

H60<H75<Seidon 120V<H80i<H100i<H110.
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August 19, 2014 6:59:24 AM

So I guess I don't really need a water cooler. I'll search for a good silent air cooler and I'm good to go...
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a c 241 à CPUs
August 19, 2014 7:06:41 AM

You don't really need any cooler. But yes getting a cooler is always better. Don't go beyond air coolers or it'd be a waste of money and space.
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August 19, 2014 7:07:32 AM

Yes,that's right.

And i meant this,

Quote:
So I guess I don't really need a water cooler. I'll search for a good silent air cooler and I'm good to go...


(just saw the other post in between)
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August 19, 2014 1:50:27 PM

Yes
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August 19, 2014 1:59:31 PM

^ what the stupidnoob said
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August 19, 2014 2:14:26 PM

^ what the legend said
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August 19, 2014 2:22:06 PM

Fyi. A noctua nh d4 oe nh 12s would be good
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