Artifacting in game with two GPu and the IGPU.

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Hello,

Yeah that's right, i noticed artifacting in Firestrike benchmark with my two R9 290, alone and in crossfire, and with the igpu ( HD 4600 i think) and in game too, like in Murdered Soul Suspect, i get artifact with all three at the same place ( green pixel, green flash etc).

My system :
Msi Mpower Max AC
I5 4670k
Cooler Master Hyper 212 Evo
2x R9 290 Tri X
EVGA Supernova G2 1000W
Case Corsair Cardbide 540 air
8gb of Ram

I'm suspecting my PSU or my motherboard.
I got some freez sometimes.
One time, my second GPu weren't recognized by my mobo until i start the pc with my hdmi cable connect to the second GPU.

Edit : I just tested the 12v rail and it give 12,26 and 12,29 under load.
So... i think that it might be : my motherboard, or my Ram eventual.
Or a setting, somewhere


 

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I don't have a spare monitor, but i saw the artifacting on a video that i took during gameplay, so i don't think that's a Monitor error.
I'll try another HDMI cable.
I tried to resseting the Cmos and to change the GPU1 too the second PCIE slot and GPU2 to the first one.
No change.
So i'm down to : All my gpu being dead.
Bad motherboard
Bad Ram.

Could a bad Ram stick cause occasional artifact in game ? And a bad motherboard ?

And idon't think that there is something wrong with the install of the Benchmark, because it will not always show up, sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't.
 

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That's a litle odd imo.Especially with all three gpu's.

You could check the ram with the next,
http://www.memtest.org/
you need to create a boottable device= usb stick or cd/dvd and start from that,let it run for a few =~4 passes.
 

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No proble, thanks you for helping me.
Do you think that a Motherboard can cause this ?That would be my nightmare.
I tried underclocking my Gpu and that didn't helped with the artifacts in Firestrike for example. Undervolting, overvolting, exact same thing.
Changing HDMI cable. No change.
 

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Maybe it's the motherboard ,but more like do you have the latest bios?
Look for the latest drivers,start with chipset and further.

Otherwise would it be something/some fault in one of the pcie slots.Maybe reseat the gpu's again,but that doesn't explain the artifacts with the igp.Or it would have to do with the cpu ... hmmm?
 

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Make sure you are running the latest graphic drivers. Also, check your temps and make sure your case has proper airflow.

Artifacting is either software/driver related, GPU related, or heat related (or mix thereof). I don't think the motherboard has anything to do with it.
 

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I have the latest Bios.
i tried both Gpu1 and 2 alone, when they where in two different pcie slot.
When i install a driver apart for the CD one, CCC is always saying that there were some warning during instalation.
But the firestrike artifact is there with the Cd driver too. ANd i tried also 14.4 ands 14.6. 14.7 gave a BSOD.One of my GPu reached 100 degre the first day, and there were Big artifact all o f a sudden because of that, but second GPU didn't reached this kind of Temp. Now Temp are fine, First GPu never go above 80 degré and second one never go above 70. CPU didn't had any trouble with temp. There are artifact with the two different GPu, they all pass MemtestCl ( for the vram) and OCCT. Also once, , during one of the first day after i built it, the Bios showed a distorded screnn on the Igpu. that never happened again. But a this point i really don't know.
 

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Have you looked for bent pins in the cpu socket or something similar on the cpu.Maybe even try the stock cooler to see if the evo doesn't put too much pressure onto the cpu.

I'm really starting to guess now,but maybe worth taking a look at.The cpu is in charge of the pcie lanes.
 

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Did this kind of issue already happened ?
If a pins was bfailing, i would have other king of problem, no ?


I don't seem to have any artifact on the desktop.


But when i look at post with board or CPu bent pin, These are problem with pc that are not booting at all etc
 

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Disable the integrated graphics in your BIOS, you should be running on the 290s only. It sounds like you are having more than one issue, but to isolate the problem make sure the GPUs are running in the right temperature and the igpu is disabled.
 

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It's disabled i only enabledit when i wanted to try it.
And they are actually running at a normal temperature, i monitor it with Afterburner.
I should mention that then artifact are not always there and are quite rare during gameplay.
I notice some of then only when i watch some video that i took to check for artifact.Like a cinematic where i can see a little white line appearing when i look at the video, and if i redo this part the white line won't appear again.
 

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Well 100 degrees during firestrike would explain artifacts.

Little to no artifacts during gaming may mean you don't have a huge problem. Your ambient and case temperatures might be a bit hotter than they should be. As I said before make sure your case has good airflow. Occasional artifact may be driver related but if you notice more than one in a short amount of time something is wrong and you should probably back off and check temperatures.

If you consistently notice temps higher than they should be on one card, it may be defective and need RMA.
 

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Only one card did go to 100 degre and it was only the first day, and not in firestrike.
I'm playing games that i play with the first card with the second card that i moved on the first pcie slot and i saw a bit of artifacting in the game.
During firestrike, my gpu don't go over 70/75 degre and they show the sames littles white flashs at the same post in the first test. But sometimes they don't, and i always monitor temp now, they are never a problem. i'll try to clean driver to install the 14.7. Maybe the instalation will go better. Also, when i install the driver like 14.4, 14.6, they say that there were some warning, but in the report, there are nothing under error message....
 

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I'll give you more feedback. But stille the other one is giving some artifact too.
I'll also test my ram tomorrow .
If the issue continue but is minor at it is right now and if the Ram is not faulty, i think that i'm gonna wait ( as the problem doesn't seem to be the PSU...). In fact i need some spot in game where artifact would be more relevant and where i could compare between graphics card with more efficiency. because they are too random for now ( the only which is not is in firestrike, and in Murdered soul suspect but i didn't have green pixel when i continued to play the game further, and i read that there were error with green shadow etc in the game so... green flash, error with green in the game...maybe this one was game and driver related. Hard to know)
 

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I'm also curious if it only happens with one game in particular or all games. Are there any games it doesn't happen in?

I have not known RAM to cause artifacting. Bad RAM usually results in random crashes, reboots, or failure to start altogether.
 

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It happened in darksiders ( flickering black polygon and texture but and difficult to spot in real time etc), Murdered Soul supect ( green flash), Sleeping dogs have some white etxture that are flickering when i moove, i thnik i saw a blue square one time, but not sure. I had a big black artifact in Fable 3, but it happened after alt tabing and going back into the game. In watch dogs i have black spot and little black square on building and little white artifact that are appearing whenever i use any MSAA ( but if don't use MSAA, there are no artifact as far as i can tell) I tried the supersampling and siabling msaa to see if it was an artifact due to performance hit, but i didn't get this artifact with supersampling ( but lower FPS) on ly some white texture when driving quickly because i think they had problem to load quickily ( card ran out of vram in GPUZ ). I didn't really saw artifact in payday 2 and in Shogun total war thought.
 

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For this one, i can't really say, because it's really random, that's the problem...
I would need to have really big artifact in a place and see if with one or another gpu, the problem is till the same.
But the kind of artifact i have are not really game breaking for now, so i think i'll test ram, and i'll wait to see how it goes.