Upgrading my monster so i want to ask that is this a good build !!!
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manish khan
August 19, 2014 1:56:01 AM
my rig which i am currently using and think to 2 upgrading it plz tel me is this a good build !!!!
PREVIOUS BUILD: core i5 3330,gtx 660 2gb,gigabyte z77 ds3,gx 750w,4 gb ram "which sucks"
NOW I AM THINKING TO UPGRADE THIS TO: CORE I7 4770K WITH GTX 770 4GB
WITH 8 GB RAM I AM STUCK IN MOTHERBOARD I WANT GIGABYTE MOBO IN FULL BLACK COLOR WHICH SHOULD BE UNDER 180$ OR 18000 PAK RUPESS PLZ TELL ME IS THIS A GOOD BUILD
PREVIOUS BUILD: core i5 3330,gtx 660 2gb,gigabyte z77 ds3,gx 750w,4 gb ram "which sucks"
NOW I AM THINKING TO UPGRADE THIS TO: CORE I7 4770K WITH GTX 770 4GB
WITH 8 GB RAM I AM STUCK IN MOTHERBOARD I WANT GIGABYTE MOBO IN FULL BLACK COLOR WHICH SHOULD BE UNDER 180$ OR 18000 PAK RUPESS PLZ TELL ME IS THIS A GOOD BUILD
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August 19, 2014 2:01:39 AM
beetlejuicegr
August 19, 2014 2:13:15 AM
Your next setup has some things to discuss
1) You want to make economy on the motherboard. This is one of the most important parts and must be the expensive one. Your thinking should be, 180$ must be the minimum to pay, not the maximum.
2) You want to buy a cpu that can be easily overclocked, meaning you want to have at some point a closed water cooling system meaning again that the motherboard must be a very very good one and able to dissipate the heat from it's components.
3)Now if you don't intend to overclock just go to a non-overclockable cpu and buy again a more expensive motherboard.
also, if you want to throw so much money on a new pc, i also strongly suggest a very good UPS to protect your investment from power spikes.
1) You want to make economy on the motherboard. This is one of the most important parts and must be the expensive one. Your thinking should be, 180$ must be the minimum to pay, not the maximum.
2) You want to buy a cpu that can be easily overclocked, meaning you want to have at some point a closed water cooling system meaning again that the motherboard must be a very very good one and able to dissipate the heat from it's components.
3)Now if you don't intend to overclock just go to a non-overclockable cpu and buy again a more expensive motherboard.
also, if you want to throw so much money on a new pc, i also strongly suggest a very good UPS to protect your investment from power spikes.
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first of all dont spent the extra money on i7 get the i5 4690k in gaming they will serve u equally........get a 1600 mhz of 2x4 gb ram in a pair......for the motherboard get a z97 chipset board ......here is a link u can search it in your local website and check out the prices......http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GA-Z97X-GAMING-Gaming-Ne...
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http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Z97-A-DDR3-2600-Motherboards...
you have not mentioned about any psu or cpu cooler so let me tell that u would need a good 600 watt psu with more than 42 amp @12+ volt on single rail........and if u oc the processor then definitely get an aftermarket cooler(hyper 212 evo cheap yet good)......& i will personally keep the oc to a moderate level and get an air cooler instead of water..... water cooler creates lot of troubles when it starts to age and there is always a danger of leakage which is harmful for other parts of the pc......
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http://www.amazon.com/ASUS-Z97-A-DDR3-2600-Motherboards...
you have not mentioned about any psu or cpu cooler so let me tell that u would need a good 600 watt psu with more than 42 amp @12+ volt on single rail........and if u oc the processor then definitely get an aftermarket cooler(hyper 212 evo cheap yet good)......& i will personally keep the oc to a moderate level and get an air cooler instead of water..... water cooler creates lot of troubles when it starts to age and there is always a danger of leakage which is harmful for other parts of the pc......
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manish khan
August 20, 2014 1:47:17 AM
manish khan
August 20, 2014 1:50:06 AM
manish khan
August 20, 2014 1:51:25 AM
manish khan
August 20, 2014 1:54:16 AM
manish khan
August 20, 2014 1:58:33 AM
no you cannot go with your previous motherboard z77 board have lga 1155 socket and will not match with your new processor......
you can oc the 4770k to 4.4 - 4.5 ghz safety.......
& i dont think there is a blue and black combination of gigabyte board but if u want that combo then msi have one .....http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboards-Z97S-SLI-PLUS/dp...
you can oc the 4770k to 4.4 - 4.5 ghz safety.......
& i dont think there is a blue and black combination of gigabyte board but if u want that combo then msi have one .....http://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboards-Z97S-SLI-PLUS/dp...
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manish khan
August 20, 2014 2:37:28 AM
manish khan
August 22, 2014 1:00:05 PM
beetlejuicegr said:
Your next setup has some things to discuss1) You want to make economy on the motherboard. This is one of the most important parts and must be the expensive one. Your thinking should be, 180$ must be the minimum to pay, not the maximum.
2) You want to buy a cpu that can be easily overclocked, meaning you want to have at some point a closed water cooling system meaning again that the motherboard must be a very very good one and able to dissipate the heat from it's components.
3)Now if you don't intend to overclock just go to a non-overclockable cpu and buy again a more expensive motherboard.
also, if you want to throw so much money on a new pc, i also strongly suggest a very good UPS to protect your investment from power spikes.
It is crazy how people buy top shelf cpu's and gpu's and cheap out on everything else.....
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beetlejuicegr said:
Your next setup has some things to discuss1) You want to make economy on the motherboard. This is one of the most important parts and must be the expensive one. Your thinking should be, 180$ must be the minimum to pay, not the maximum.
No. No. No.
I'm with a 100$ motherboard on my I7 4790k. It's getting me up to 4.8ghz and possibly higher. I have all features I want. Now tell me a single reason why I should have spent $1 more on my motherboard.
Ohwell, please don't come with the 0-2% stronger performance on the same clock I would get with a $350 motherboard.
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manish khan
August 23, 2014 2:14:40 AM
manish khan
August 23, 2014 5:06:19 AM
DubbleClick said:
beetlejuicegr said:
Your next setup has some things to discuss1) You want to make economy on the motherboard. This is one of the most important parts and must be the expensive one. Your thinking should be, 180$ must be the minimum to pay, not the maximum.
No. No. No.
I'm with a 100$ motherboard on my I7 4790k. It's getting me up to 4.8ghz and possibly higher. I have all features I want. Now tell me a single reason why I should have spent $1 more on my motherboard.
Ohwell, please don't come with the 0-2% stronger performance on the same clock I would get with a $350 motherboard.
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manish khan
August 23, 2014 5:06:45 AM
@prit87
Because any other name brand does manufactur just as well boards in the lower price cathegory?
I picked my board for $100. An asus equivalent would have costed $180. If it's worth to you then sure, go ahead. I'd recommend getting the board you can get the relatively best performance/price deal on.
Because any other name brand does manufactur just as well boards in the lower price cathegory?
I picked my board for $100. An asus equivalent would have costed $180. If it's worth to you then sure, go ahead. I'd recommend getting the board you can get the relatively best performance/price deal on.
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manish khan
August 24, 2014 12:35:37 AM
DubbleClick said:
@prit87Because any other name brand does manufactur just as well boards in the lower price cathegory?
I picked my board for $100. An asus equivalent would have costed $180. If it's worth to you then sure, go ahead. I'd recommend getting the board you can get the relatively best performance/price deal on.
there are as rock board much less costly than gigabyte and asus ....and they are reliable....
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manish khan said:
dubbleclick can i run core i7 4770k or 4790k on gigabyte z77-ds3the question was not for me but still i am answering it.......NO you cant run 4th gen processor in your current z77 board....i have already said this before...... they have different sockets lga 1150 and z77 have lga 1155 socket.....
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Yeah, they aren't compatible. The best you could get with a z77 board is the 3770k, which is still a very powerful cpu. If you already have the board, go with that one.
@prit87
The asrock board equivalent to mine is the extreme 4 with slightly worse rating. Yet it's 20€ more expensive. I do enough research to know what I'm buying.
@prit87
The asrock board equivalent to mine is the extreme 4 with slightly worse rating. Yet it's 20€ more expensive. I do enough research to know what I'm buying.
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manish khan
August 26, 2014 5:51:13 AM
manish khan
August 26, 2014 5:54:48 AM
Kevin123
August 26, 2014 6:01:32 AM
manish khan said:
my rig which i am currently using and think to 2 upgrading it plz tel me is this a good build !!!! PREVIOUS BUILD: core i5 3330,gtx 660 2gb,gigabyte z77 ds3,gx 750w,4 gb ram "which sucks"
NOW I AM THINKING TO UPGRADE THIS TO: CORE I7 4770K WITH GTX 770 4GB
WITH 8 GB RAM I AM STUCK IN MOTHERBOARD I WANT GIGABYTE MOBO IN FULL BLACK COLOR WHICH SHOULD BE UNDER 180$ OR 18000 PAK RUPESS PLZ TELL ME IS THIS A GOOD BUILD
You've described part of the build I put together about a year ago now, to go along with what you've said I also added a sabertooth motherboard (it does most things and has beautiful aesthetics, it's not gigabyte though) and the only other thing I will say is buy a good psu. There's lists you can Google to find ratings and reliability, though as a general any bronze will do.
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B-man33
August 27, 2014 1:09:59 AM
manish khan said:
my rig which i am currently using and think to 2 upgrading it plz tel me is this a good build !!!! PREVIOUS BUILD: core i5 3330,gtx 660 2gb,gigabyte z77 ds3,gx 750w,4 gb ram "which sucks"
NOW I AM THINKING TO UPGRADE THIS TO: CORE I7 4770K WITH GTX 770 4GB
WITH 8 GB RAM I AM STUCK IN MOTHERBOARD I WANT GIGABYTE MOBO IN FULL BLACK COLOR WHICH SHOULD BE UNDER 180$ OR 18000 PAK RUPESS PLZ TELL ME IS THIS A GOOD BUILD
Why don't you wait for DDR4 (8GB) RAM and the new intel CPU's to launch? Tom's hardware is expecting for it to launch the 29th August (this month) and they estimate that the cheapest model i7 CPU will be $400.
Which is not bad considering it is about $60 more then the i7 devil's canyon (used newegg to check the price - http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...)
Also it has 6 cores, 12 threads, clocks at 3.3GHZ 15MB L3 cache but you can read all this here
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...
I would say that it will be worth the wait, even if it only launches September, at least you have more time to safe up and buy the next gen. of CPU and RAM.
As for the video card, I own a Asus GTX770 2GB and it is fantastic!! My display is a 1600 X 900 LG L.E.D display and I play BF4 on ultra, I get around 80 FPS, average, but go for the GTX770 4GB card, much better choice, especially if you want to play games in 1080p, you will have more then enough v-ram for games like Watchdogs that uses 3.1 GB of v-ram in 1080p, I think?
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manish khan said:
how much difference is between 3770k and 4770k ???? not a huge difference...
Single-threaded performance of the Intel i7-4770K is higher.
In multi-threaded applications, the Intel Core i7-4770K processor has 7% better performance.
The i7-4770K is 2% faster when running memory-intensive tasks.
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rbarnhart
August 27, 2014 7:46:48 PM
The only aspect that can impact performance for gaming is the change in gpu, everything else is negligible.
Wait for the next set of die and redesign shrinks next year. Otherwise, you are spending money for no noticeable change.
This coming year is an irregular tick-tock cycle and will outpace others. It may be the last big shift.
Wait for the next set of die and redesign shrinks next year. Otherwise, you are spending money for no noticeable change.
This coming year is an irregular tick-tock cycle and will outpace others. It may be the last big shift.
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Manish Tewari
August 27, 2014 8:50:58 PM
rbarnhart said:
The only aspect that can impact performance for gaming is the change in gpu, everything else is negligible. Wait for the next set of die and redesign shrinks next year. Otherwise, you are spending money for no noticeable change.
This coming year is an irregular tick-tock cycle and will outpace others. It may be the last big shift.
@ rbarnhart - buddy can you me some link or more detailthat explains your above statment , thanks in advance !
Cheers !
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rbarnhart
August 28, 2014 8:11:29 PM
Manish Tewari said:
rbarnhart said:
The only aspect that can impact performance for gaming is the change in gpu, everything else is negligible. Wait for the next set of die and redesign shrinks next year. Otherwise, you are spending money for no noticeable change.
This coming year is an irregular tick-tock cycle and will outpace others. It may be the last big shift.
@ rbarnhart - buddy can you me some link or more detailthat explains your above statment , thanks in advance !
Cheers !
Here are some links.
Skylake Processors: DDR4 Ram, more PCI-e capability, Sata Express, more reasons, just read.
http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-s-igpu-directx12-4k-r...
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-skylake-s-platfo...
4GB vs More Ram for Gaming: The effect is greatest on load times and not FPS, but if you wait the benefit will be greater with DDR4 ram.
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/articles/Hardware/How_much_RA...
Which Processor i5 vs i7: Games do not currently use 8 cores through hyperthreading. So i5 is effectively as good as i7 for gaming alone.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2c2817%2c2404675%2c00.a...
As for video card you want Sapphire R9 290 Vapor X OC: better bang for buck versus gtx 770 hands down.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/06/05/sa...
Your GTX 660 is then the only component that is lagging currently in a way that directly effects FPS. The r9 290 card will radically alter this and let you save up for other more critical cutting edge upgrades that will appear over the next year.
Cheers,
Ryan
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B-man33
August 30, 2014 11:33:03 PM
rbarnhart said:
The only aspect that can impact performance for gaming is the change in gpu, everything else is negligible. Wait for the next set of die and redesign shrinks next year. Otherwise, you are spending money for no noticeable change.
This coming year is an irregular tick-tock cycle and will outpace others. It may be the last big shift.
rbarnhart said:
Manish Tewari said:
rbarnhart said:
The only aspect that can impact performance for gaming is the change in gpu, everything else is negligible. Wait for the next set of die and redesign shrinks next year. Otherwise, you are spending money for no noticeable change.
This coming year is an irregular tick-tock cycle and will outpace others. It may be the last big shift.
@ rbarnhart - buddy can you me some link or more detailthat explains your above statment , thanks in advance !
Cheers !
Here are some links.
Skylake Processors: DDR4 Ram, more PCI-e capability, Sata Express, more reasons, just read.
http://wccftech.com/intel-skylake-s-igpu-directx12-4k-r...
http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-skylake-s-platfo...
4GB vs More Ram for Gaming: The effect is greatest on load times and not FPS, but if you wait the benefit will be greater with DDR4 ram.
http://www.pcreview.co.uk/articles/Hardware/How_much_RA...
Which Processor i5 vs i7: Games do not currently use 8 cores through hyperthreading. So i5 is effectively as good as i7 for gaming alone.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0%2c2817%2c2404675%2c00.a...
As for video card you want Sapphire R9 290 Vapor X OC: better bang for buck versus gtx 770 hands down.
http://www.kitguru.net/components/graphic-cards/zardon/...
http://www.bit-tech.net/hardware/graphics/2014/06/05/sa...
Your GTX 660 is then the only component that is lagging currently in a way that directly effects FPS. The r9 290 card will radically alter this and let you save up for other more critical cutting edge upgrades that will appear over the next year.
Cheers,
Ryan
4 GB of RAM is great if you are working with word or Exel all day... Gaming, you need 8 GB of RAM, try playing BF4 with only 4 GB of RAM, the PC lag is terrible even if everything is set to low, 8 GB is the future and if you wait DDR4 8 GB is a good choice.
Radeon R9 290 is not performing better then the GTX 770, where did you read that? Also not better money for value, the GTX 770 would be a much better choice, here is a comparison between the 2 cards and price is also included.
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-290-vs-GeForce-GTX-77...
Also here is a GTX 770 (remember this a 2 GB card) up against the R9 280X just mix it up a bit
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-280X-vs-GeForce-GTX-7...
Don't underestimate the GTX 660, still a very good card, he can even consider SLI but will not help with V-RAM, so I would rather go for a 4 GB GTX 770, have a look here for for the GTX 660 going up against the Radeon R9 270X
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-R9-270X-vs-GeForce-GTX-6...
Yes, I use GPU-boss for comparisons, they are awesome to use especially if you are in the market for a new card. I like Radeon, not trying to bad mouth them, they have really good cards and a very nice price tag on their cards, but if I can afford a Nvidea card (which I can) then I would rather buy Nvidea card, there is a old afrikaans saying "goed koop is duur koop" which means buying cheap is buying expensive.
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yes like legend said GPUboss is promoted by nvidia there is no way that the r9 290 is equal to the gtx 770. r9 280x is a bit faster than gtx 770 so r9 290 is much more faster than gtx 770 i personally own nvidia gtx 760 (not being biased here)but still i like amd because of there variety of cards they keep in mind for every consumer before developing their cards and fill the huge gap between gtx 750 ti and gtx 760 in price and performance left by nvidia .
For the ram 4 gb is minimum requirement for current games 6 gb is recommended yet only few games reach more than 4 gb people buy 8 gb to be future proof and create a balance between the cards.
For the ram 4 gb is minimum requirement for current games 6 gb is recommended yet only few games reach more than 4 gb people buy 8 gb to be future proof and create a balance between the cards.
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