nvidia driver keeps crashing but is recovered
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Daniel Harvey
August 19, 2014 3:31:53 AM
Hi,
over the last couple of weeks my gtx 750 driver has been crashing in games. the games i have played and had this issue are f1 2012 f1 2013 and civ v.
when the crash occurs, it is random usually when loading a race (in f1) but can be during gameplay. The screen goes black and the game crashed to desktop or just freezes (once i had a BSOD with the watchdog violation error). then once the game restarts, only a black screen is shown and the sounds play until it crashes. to solve this, I install the drivers again (clean install) after this everything works fine. problem is that I am doing this once or twice a day.
I am not over clocking and the card is the palit 1gb edition. I have tried 334.89, 335.23, 337.88 and 340.52 - 337.88 seems the most stable but doesnt solve the issue and still crashes everyday.
note: it has only happened once in civ whilst i was online, whereas it has happened loads of times on f1.
I asked a similar question a few weeks ago on toms hardware and someone replied saying that it could be an issue with timings? but he didnt reply again after that.
yesterday i asked this question on the nvidia forums - here - he asked the normal questions (as you can see) to which everything was normal.
looking in event viewer showed this error "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered." this has occurred on all the available nvidia drivers for my card.
it doesnt always happen when under load either it often happens when selecting a track in f1.
Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4670
Operating System: windows 8.1 64 bit
Motherboard: Gigabyte H87M-HD3
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1660mhz (2x4GB)
Graphics card: Palit GeForce GTX 750 StormX OC 1GB (bought and installed 3 months ago)
Monitor: LG 21.5" 22EN33S-B LED
PSU: 500W PSU (generic)
sorry if the text is a bit jumbled, i have tried to copy bits from my other thread and may have got a bit confused
thanks
over the last couple of weeks my gtx 750 driver has been crashing in games. the games i have played and had this issue are f1 2012 f1 2013 and civ v.
when the crash occurs, it is random usually when loading a race (in f1) but can be during gameplay. The screen goes black and the game crashed to desktop or just freezes (once i had a BSOD with the watchdog violation error). then once the game restarts, only a black screen is shown and the sounds play until it crashes. to solve this, I install the drivers again (clean install) after this everything works fine. problem is that I am doing this once or twice a day.
I am not over clocking and the card is the palit 1gb edition. I have tried 334.89, 335.23, 337.88 and 340.52 - 337.88 seems the most stable but doesnt solve the issue and still crashes everyday.
note: it has only happened once in civ whilst i was online, whereas it has happened loads of times on f1.
I asked a similar question a few weeks ago on toms hardware and someone replied saying that it could be an issue with timings? but he didnt reply again after that.
yesterday i asked this question on the nvidia forums - here - he asked the normal questions (as you can see) to which everything was normal.
looking in event viewer showed this error "Display driver nvlddmkm stopped responding and has successfully recovered." this has occurred on all the available nvidia drivers for my card.
it doesnt always happen when under load either it often happens when selecting a track in f1.
Specs:
CPU: Intel Core i5 4670
Operating System: windows 8.1 64 bit
Motherboard: Gigabyte H87M-HD3
RAM: 8GB DDR3 1660mhz (2x4GB)
Graphics card: Palit GeForce GTX 750 StormX OC 1GB (bought and installed 3 months ago)
Monitor: LG 21.5" 22EN33S-B LED
PSU: 500W PSU (generic)
sorry if the text is a bit jumbled, i have tried to copy bits from my other thread and may have got a bit confused
thanks
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chimera201
August 20, 2014 3:45:32 AM
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Daniel Harvey
August 20, 2014 7:57:48 AM
RobCrezz said:
That usually happens with an unstable overclock. Have you overclocked it?Install MSI afterburner and reduce the GPU clock speed by a small amount (20mhz or so), and see if it solves the problem.
i am not overclocking - I was but I disabled it and reverted back to 0 once this occured a few times
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Daniel Harvey
August 20, 2014 8:01:52 AM
chimera201 said:
I am not sure if this is the reason for your issue but your generic PSU needs to be replaced anywaysI thought this was the issue to be honest, I have planned to replace it in a few months
I was looking at this one https://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/450W-Corsair-VS-85p1620.... is that any better?
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Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
That usually happens with an unstable overclock. Have you overclocked it?Install MSI afterburner and reduce the GPU clock speed by a small amount (20mhz or so), and see if it solves the problem.
i am not overclocking - I was but I disabled it and reverted back to 0 once this occured a few times
I mean, set it to -20mhz and hit apply, then try it.
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Daniel Harvey
August 20, 2014 8:42:33 AM
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
That usually happens with an unstable overclock. Have you overclocked it?Install MSI afterburner and reduce the GPU clock speed by a small amount (20mhz or so), and see if it solves the problem.
i am not overclocking - I was but I disabled it and reverted back to 0 once this occured a few times
I mean, set it to -20mhz and hit apply, then try it.
oh ok, I will try that.
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chimera201
August 21, 2014 5:51:40 AM
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
I am not sure if this is the reason for your issue but your generic PSU needs to be replaced anywaysI thought this was the issue to be honest, I have planned to replace it in a few months
I was looking at this one https://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/450W-Corsair-VS-85p1620.... is that any better?
Nope. There is a reason why quality PSUs costs higher.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2203645/crashe...
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What the repairman said to me was that he found the VS Series to have issues running even low-end graphics cards and that it's only really reliable when it's running integrated GPUs on mobos.-
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Daniel Harvey
August 21, 2014 6:03:32 AM
chimera201 said:
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
I am not sure if this is the reason for your issue but your generic PSU needs to be replaced anywaysI thought this was the issue to be honest, I have planned to replace it in a few months
I was looking at this one https://www.dinopc.com/shop/pc/450W-Corsair-VS-85p1620.... is that any better?
Nope. There is a reason why quality PSUs costs higher.
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2203645/crashe...
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What the repairman said to me was that he found the VS Series to have issues running even low-end graphics cards and that it's only really reliable when it's running integrated GPUs on mobos.hi, I read through the thread and realised that the VS series is not good for high end cards. I also saw that you posted this
"So it works with Supernova? Did you test under load? Please reply so we can confirm that Corsair VS series sucks.
Corsair VS series are meant for GPUs like GTX 750. Anything that consumes more power and you will need a better PSU."
- I have a gtx 750 so would this be ok? or was your quote saying that this is no longer the case?
if this is no longer the case would you be able to recommend a better one?
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chimera201
August 21, 2014 6:05:07 AM
Take some of the PSU comments lightly. Not pointing any fingers, but some people on here go crazy for getting people to buy the most expensive PSUs with high end caps even for cheap low-mid systems.
Im not saying use cheap crap psus like CiT, or PowerCOOL, or ace black. But the cheaper reputable brand PSUs can be just fine for systems that dont consume lots of power.
The VS psus arent great, but they are better than generic crap. My work pc has one (not my choice but anyway...) and its powering a 8350 and a 7770 (both of which do F@H quite heavily), and it works fine.
Im not saying use cheap crap psus like CiT, or PowerCOOL, or ace black. But the cheaper reputable brand PSUs can be just fine for systems that dont consume lots of power.
The VS psus arent great, but they are better than generic crap. My work pc has one (not my choice but anyway...) and its powering a 8350 and a 7770 (both of which do F@H quite heavily), and it works fine.
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reccy
August 21, 2014 6:26:08 AM
Unsure if the drivers you have tried are all WQHL drivers, but try a BETA driver.
Me old man had a similar issue to you when playing a couple of games on his Phenom II X4 945/GTX465 system (Both not overclocked) (Ghost Warrior, Borderlands and Batman from memory) and the only one which was stable was the latest BETA driver.
Think he had a 12 hour session on Borderlands without a crash, where it would be 2-3 hours then this driver crash.
He now use only BETA drivers and his system is very stable (albeit, not used as much anymore)
Me old man had a similar issue to you when playing a couple of games on his Phenom II X4 945/GTX465 system (Both not overclocked) (Ghost Warrior, Borderlands and Batman from memory) and the only one which was stable was the latest BETA driver.
Think he had a 12 hour session on Borderlands without a crash, where it would be 2-3 hours then this driver crash.
He now use only BETA drivers and his system is very stable (albeit, not used as much anymore)
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Daniel Harvey
August 21, 2014 8:28:43 AM
chimera201 said:
Budget?erm.. not too much, as low as possible, really (up to £40? 'ish).
I don't plan on upgrading the gpu any time soon, so it doesn't need to be future proof just "good enough".
I haven't actually tried the beta drivers since this happened so I might just try those over the weekend.
thanks for the advice RobCrezz
(P.S. I would have quoted each post but couldn't find how to using just 1 post)
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August 22, 2014 6:21:58 AM
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Daniel Harvey
August 22, 2014 6:25:36 AM
chimera201 said:
XFX Pro Core Edition 80PLUS Bronze Power Supply [P1-450S-X2B9]thanks,
is this fully compatible then? (im sure you have checked but i have to make sure)
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August 22, 2014 7:04:35 AM
Daniel Harvey
August 22, 2014 7:18:10 AM
chimera201
August 22, 2014 8:04:20 AM
Daniel Harvey
August 22, 2014 8:06:40 AM
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
Yes it is Haswell but it isn't an issue. Don't worry about itoh ok, thanks but i cant say that i am not a little bit confused. why would it say that it isn't haswell compatible if it wasn't important?
You can just disable the mega low power C states in the bios if you want. Chances are your generic psu doesnt officailly support them anyway.
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Daniel Harvey
August 22, 2014 8:24:40 AM
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
Yes it is Haswell but it isn't an issue. Don't worry about itoh ok, thanks but i cant say that i am not a little bit confused. why would it say that it isn't haswell compatible if it wasn't important?
You can just disable the mega low power C states in the bios if you want. Chances are your generic psu doesnt officailly support them anyway.
what are mega low C states? is it just lowering the power usage of the cpu when not in use?
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Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
Yes it is Haswell but it isn't an issue. Don't worry about itoh ok, thanks but i cant say that i am not a little bit confused. why would it say that it isn't haswell compatible if it wasn't important?
You can just disable the mega low power C states in the bios if you want. Chances are your generic psu doesnt officailly support them anyway.
what are mega low C states? is it just lowering the power usage of the cpu when not in use?
Yeah exactly, they reduce the power usage when idleing, dont make a huge difference though.
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Daniel Harvey
August 22, 2014 8:41:51 AM
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
Yes it is Haswell but it isn't an issue. Don't worry about itoh ok, thanks but i cant say that i am not a little bit confused. why would it say that it isn't haswell compatible if it wasn't important?
You can just disable the mega low power C states in the bios if you want. Chances are your generic psu doesnt officailly support them anyway.
what are mega low C states? is it just lowering the power usage of the cpu when not in use?
Yeah exactly, they reduce the power usage when idleing, dont make a huge difference though.
so is that what it means by "not haswell compatible"? I.e I wont be able to apply this pretty meaning-less feature?
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Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
Yes it is Haswell but it isn't an issue. Don't worry about itoh ok, thanks but i cant say that i am not a little bit confused. why would it say that it isn't haswell compatible if it wasn't important?
You can just disable the mega low power C states in the bios if you want. Chances are your generic psu doesnt officailly support them anyway.
what are mega low C states? is it just lowering the power usage of the cpu when not in use?
Yeah exactly, they reduce the power usage when idleing, dont make a huge difference though.
so is that what it means by "not haswell compatible"? I.e I wont be able to apply this pretty meaning-less feature?
Yeah exactly.
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Daniel Harvey
August 22, 2014 8:54:02 AM
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
RobCrezz said:
Daniel Harvey said:
chimera201 said:
Yes it is Haswell but it isn't an issue. Don't worry about itoh ok, thanks but i cant say that i am not a little bit confused. why would it say that it isn't haswell compatible if it wasn't important?
You can just disable the mega low power C states in the bios if you want. Chances are your generic psu doesnt officailly support them anyway.
what are mega low C states? is it just lowering the power usage of the cpu when not in use?
Yeah exactly, they reduce the power usage when idleing, dont make a huge difference though.
so is that what it means by "not haswell compatible"? I.e I wont be able to apply this pretty meaning-less feature?
Yeah exactly.
ok thank you everyone for your help
edit: I picked RobCrezz's answer as solution as this was more relevant to the original question
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