Convince me to get Nvidia over AMD

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williamcummins

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Hey guys,
I've built gaming a computer 6 months ago and sorta regret some of my choices. I went with GTX 750ti and a low wattage PSU. Now that I want to upgrade my GPU, I just don't get why should I stay with the Green Team. I mean, I can get a r9 290 for 400$ and I just don't think I can get a better bang for the bucks... Why does people stick with Nvidia so much?

Current rig :
intel i5 4670k oc'd @ 4.2Ghz
Asus Z87-Pro
Asus GTX 750ti
Antec HCG 520M (will be switching to BeQuiet PowerZone 850W when swapping new GPU)
Corsair Vengeance LP 2x4Gb
Samsung Evo Pro 240Gb SSD

Thanks!
 
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Nothing wrong with AMD or nVIDIA :)

Both have pros and cons and there are many games which are optimized for AMD platform while many games are optimized for nVIDIA platform.

With nVIDIA you can have PhysX, TXAA and recent drivers are optimized for much better performance. Also, generally they draw less power with more performance.

AMD you have freesync, Mantle, Core based crossfire this is where AMD is really flexible. Even thier cards can be crossed using PCIe slots (native software bridging) whereas nVIDIA is not flexible here only same models can be SLI. AMD cards are less expensive and give similar performance this is where AMD has an advantage.

Follow your heart here, you can't go wrong either. Also you can choose wisely by...

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There are 4 reasons to consider Nvidia over AMD:
1. Nvidia Cards require less power and are more efficient for long time.
2. Features like GPU PhysX and TXAA are unique features of Nvidia(certainly affects a lot of recent games).
3. Drivers updates are more reliable and consistent for Nvidia cards( AMD stopped driver updates for windows 8).
4. AMD cards always have artifacting issues in latest games.
(Personally I switched from ASUS R9 280x To ASUS GTX 770 due to these reasons.) Hope You make the right decision For yourself.
 
historic driver issues, and raw power (vs bang for buck), i just get a warmer feeling from nvidia than AMD, had a number of friends who would swear at their amd cards because they caused trouble.

There's not much wrong with that PSU unless you want to SLI, 40amps on 12V is enough for nearly anything, 780ti's 290X's might be tight but that's all.
 
Nothing wrong with AMD or nVIDIA :)

Both have pros and cons and there are many games which are optimized for AMD platform while many games are optimized for nVIDIA platform.

With nVIDIA you can have PhysX, TXAA and recent drivers are optimized for much better performance. Also, generally they draw less power with more performance.

AMD you have freesync, Mantle, Core based crossfire this is where AMD is really flexible. Even thier cards can be crossed using PCIe slots (native software bridging) whereas nVIDIA is not flexible here only same models can be SLI. AMD cards are less expensive and give similar performance this is where AMD has an advantage.

Follow your heart here, you can't go wrong either. Also you can choose wisely by considering what type of games do you play and by checking for which platform these are optimized.

Good Luck
 
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Both have Pro's and Cons, Nvidia tend to be more feature rich while AMD typically better bang for the buck in terms of sheer performance. If your not interested in PhysX, ShadowPlay or Gsync then there isnt much reason to pick them.
As to why people endlessly pick Nvidia, because fanboys exist.



1. citation needed
2. Its a shame that PhysX is in so few games, they could have really made turned it into a core part of the gaming experience if they opened it up. As it is, PhysX outright doesnt work when there's an AMD card in system (even if the Nvidia is the primary, this applies to CUDA acceleration as well) and the CPU PhysX code is intentionally crippled.
3. 196.75, google it. Both sides stuff up. The dropping support for Win8 is wrong.
4. Just no...
 

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From a personal perspective, I had a Ati Radeon 9800 Pro, and what a nightmare it was, I went through 4 cards, drivers were lack and god awful, artifacting, black screen, random restarts.

Decided to purchase a 6600GT and it’s still working to this day. Never had an issue with it and drivers seemed more optimised and Nvidia seemed to be updating the drivers on a regular basis.

But I am a Intel & Nvidia Man, but I pay a heavier price literally. AMD seem to have the better bang for buck reputation, even if they are lacking in some area’s.

Both have Pro’s and Con’s and would be hard done by to exactly choose which is the better manufacture, as it’s all down to personal choice.
 
Nvidia have had ONE driver that caused a the fans to spin down on SOME cards but AMD consistently chuck out crap drivers that just don't work, I had to wait nearly ten months for a driver that works on my 7790. If they had just done a driver that killed it dead then at least I might have gotten a new card if they were to follow Nvidia's lead. :whistle:
 


I thought their drivers were pants when they were ATi which is why I bought an AMD card and the drivers are still pants and why did you fail to mention the GSoD issue? Or the random black screen issue? Both of which I have seen several times on this 7790.
 

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The only thing I'm going to address as far as AMD bashing going on here is that i have never seen any artifacting in ANY recent games, so thats just wrong. As to OP's question, Nvidia is generally believed to be more stable, there are thousands of people who have issues with AMD, but there are also thousands with issues with Nvidia. For me a huge deciding factor was how they handled multi monitor support, AMD's is so much easier then Nvidia's (at least it was 6 months ago, idk if that's still the case) and AMD's price per performance smashes Nvidia. I wouldnt be afraid of AMD for any reason, but I wouldnt knock somebody for choosing Nvidia. Physx is a cool addition, it's just very stressful on a gpu, so something like the 750ti will struggle significantly more when it's turned on, and it's really not in that many games. At the end of the day it normally comes down to a few key things, past performance with X brand, budget, performance goals. Good luck and let us know what you decide.
 

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Having 290X and enjoying every moment of it. Beforehand I had Radeon HD 6990 for two and a half years and I consider that one the best video card I ever owned, I tossed it to my GF and now it is going strong for nearly 3 years.

I honestly don't know wtf people do that actually leads to "driver issues" with AMD.

I must be the weird one here, since for me - two out of three NVIDIA cards I owned died - one 8800GTS and one 280GTX, while AMD was rock solid with 9500 PRO, 6990 and 290X.

P.S. I am honestly surprised at my former 6990, after NVIDIA crap I expected it to die 2 years in and it is still working awesomely 3 years in, even now it is still on par with ~280X.
 

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I think people don't do the install the correct way, and AMD's drivers aren't as forgiving as Nvidia's. Or they load the beta's and expect them to work perfectly, then botch up rolling back the drivers.
 

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I'm glad I started this conversation! Just to be clear, I love my GPU and had no problem with it, but for a gaming rig, I don't feel like the extra cost is worth it.

I mainly want to change for a beefier card to be able to play Tom Clancy's The Division (which will come out somewhere Q1-Q2 2015) and BF Hardline at maximum settings (@60fps). At that time, nVidia will have released their 800 series and most companies will have build their own version of GTX 8XX card. Will this make the price drop from 780 and 780ti? I wish.

Bottom line, if they were the same price, I'd pick GTX 780 over r9 290 because it runs cooler and have a better driver history. But for 150$ less, I still don't know... I wish someone here could share his experience with a Sapphire r9 290 tri-X and tell me if the card is reliable.
 

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I had to r9 290 tri-x's in crossfire. Loved those cards. well worth the cash, I'd buy them again if I wasn't upgrading to liquid cooled 290x's.

Edit: Also to be clear, I had 1 tri x for a couple months before I added the second, I loved just the single one too.
 


The only way that you are ever going to really find out is if you just buy one of their cards and try it out for yourself.
 

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heh that's funny, I had a 9800 pro as well , for 4 years i think, and never had any problems with it.
 

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I am pretty sure it has more to do with the build quality and thus which third party build it and the model. For example MSI really bombed it with me and their NVIDIA cards, but Sapphire is my go to supplier for anything AMD because their shit just works.
 

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Did you install an aftermarket water block or got a card like the Powercolor already assembled?
 

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I will be doing a aftermarket water block. Right It's just the 1 sapphrie reference 290x in my machine, the other is coming in about a week, and I'll be ordering all my loop parts a week after that, I want to stress test them first to make sure they dont need RMA before i pull them apart.
 
Why does people stick with Nvidia so much?
Rumors and Nvidia's fan army

For $400 I suggest you just get 290. NVidia doesn't have a chance for price/performance

Physx isn't used in much and ignore TXAA completely (it is just a blur filter)

That said I would avoid XFX or MSI cards (XFX has VRM overheating problems and MSI seems to have a high failure rate)
 

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Great, because my choice is leaning to Sapphire R9-290 Tri-X OC. It appears that their cooler is the most effective on the market for that chip.
 
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