Physical Memory Issue?
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FlewDesigns
August 19, 2014 12:46:25 PM
Hello
I have a :
XPS 8300
i7-2600 core. cpu@3.40ghz.
16 gb ram
radeon 7870 2gb.
As you can see by the attached image image![]()
There is nothing running but physical memory is at 86% and also cpu usage goes between 10-25 no furthur.
I work with massive 10 gb billboard size files and when I am working in photoshop physical goes to 90%+ and cpu usage still stays at around 20%. Is there a way to boost cpu usage? I dont no if that will make it run faster. Its incredibly slow. Even without doing anything its not great speed. I did a all round test and it did say my optimal drive was working overtime but would this cause this issue?
any advice?
Lewis
I have a :
XPS 8300
i7-2600 core. cpu@3.40ghz.
16 gb ram
radeon 7870 2gb.
As you can see by the attached image image
There is nothing running but physical memory is at 86% and also cpu usage goes between 10-25 no furthur.
I work with massive 10 gb billboard size files and when I am working in photoshop physical goes to 90%+ and cpu usage still stays at around 20%. Is there a way to boost cpu usage? I dont no if that will make it run faster. Its incredibly slow. Even without doing anything its not great speed. I did a all round test and it did say my optimal drive was working overtime but would this cause this issue?
any advice?
Lewis
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With 10 gig files you need as much memory as your motherboard will support.
You are running out of memory and windows is using the hard drive as a swap file or virtual memory.
If 16 gig is the max supported by your motherboard, get an ssd and set windows to use the ssd as virtual memory.
Or both for best performance.
You are running out of memory and windows is using the hard drive as a swap file or virtual memory.
If 16 gig is the max supported by your motherboard, get an ssd and set windows to use the ssd as virtual memory.
Or both for best performance.
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FlewDesigns
August 20, 2014 2:13:48 AM
Unolocogringo said:
With 10 gig files you need as much memory as your motherboard will support.You are running out of memory and windows is using the hard drive as a swap file or virtual memory.
If 16 gig is the max supported by your motherboard, get an ssd and set windows to use the ssd as virtual memory.
Or both for best performance.
That sounds great but I am an amateur and have no idea what an ssd is. Where do i put it, which one to buy? procedure? i have put in ram and a new psu but thats the limit of my knowledge. and how do i set windows to use ssd? also you sure it will be compatible ye?.
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An SSD or solid state drive is a hard drive made of flash memory. It connects to the motherboard the same as a regular hard drive.
You mount them in older computers such as yours, in the hard drive rack using a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 inch adaptor.
After it is installed ,depending on which version of windows you are running, you go into the advanced computer properties of windows and set it as your virtual memory.
You will need the SSD, a SATA data cable and a free SATA power connector on the power supply.
I would suggest a 120 gig SSD. As each edit to you billboard will take another 10 gig of "memory" whether it be RAM memory or virtual memory.
If this is something you would like to undertake ,post back and I will post links to Newegg of the parts needed.
You mount them in older computers such as yours, in the hard drive rack using a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 inch adaptor.
After it is installed ,depending on which version of windows you are running, you go into the advanced computer properties of windows and set it as your virtual memory.
You will need the SSD, a SATA data cable and a free SATA power connector on the power supply.
I would suggest a 120 gig SSD. As each edit to you billboard will take another 10 gig of "memory" whether it be RAM memory or virtual memory.
If this is something you would like to undertake ,post back and I will post links to Newegg of the parts needed.
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FlewDesigns
August 20, 2014 5:35:01 AM
Unolocogringo said:
An SSD or solid state drive is a hard drive made of flash memory. It connects to the motherboard the same as a regular hard drive. You mount them in older computers such as yours, in the hard drive rack using a 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 inch adaptor.
After it is installed ,depending on which version of windows you are running, you go into the advanced computer properties of windows and set it as your virtual memory.
You will need the SSD, a SATA data cable and a free SATA power connector on the power supply.
I would suggest a 120 gig SSD. As each edit to you billboard will take another 10 gig of "memory" whether it be RAM memory or virtual memory.
If this is something you would like to undertake ,post back and I will post links to Newegg of the parts needed.
Hey ye I would like too. yes. I will need to check the power supply that there is a sata power connector free? im sure there will be i got the 650 w and not a old version. im sure theres a tutorial for this? but yes please send me links. I want the best i can get with this machine. need ultimate performance. thank you!
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SSD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SATA cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Adaptor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mount the SSD in the adaptor .
Mount the adaptor in the hard drive cage and connect the cables.
If you need help setting windows to use the SSD as virtual memory you can private message me or post another thread, as we have a lot of helpful people here.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SATA cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Adaptor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mount the SSD in the adaptor .
Mount the adaptor in the hard drive cage and connect the cables.
If you need help setting windows to use the SSD as virtual memory you can private message me or post another thread, as we have a lot of helpful people here.
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FlewDesigns
August 22, 2014 4:27:03 PM
Unolocogringo said:
SSDhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SATA cable
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Adaptor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mount the SSD in the adaptor .
Mount the adaptor in the hard drive cage and connect the cables.
If you need help setting windows to use the SSD as virtual memory you can private message me or post another thread, as we have a lot of helpful people here.
Hello Great thanks I am going to order it,
Out of stock on that site. This link is same one yes? http://www.amazon.co.uk/Samsung-Series-128GB-Solid-Stat...
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FlewDesigns
August 23, 2014 6:30:49 AM
Unolocogringo said:
On a side note to one of your questions.Photoshop will use your video card to accelerate the rendering process. That is why your cpu usage is always low.
This is a good thing as the video card will be a lot faster than the CPU for such tasks.
Okay great. where do i put it? heres a picture of my desktop its small. Could you possibly just tick or draw on where to put it. I know this is crazy amatuer. http://gyazo.com/e3b8e78aeac584ae7c9a74579ce8e23a
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In your picture.
The cable laying on top of the CPU fan is a SATA power cable.
If you follow it back It connects to your hard drive. Which also has a blue SATA data cable attached to it.
The SSD when mounted to the 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 adaptor will slide in the cage with the hard drive. Secure it with a couple screws that come with the adaptor.
Attach the power cable laying on the CPU fan to the SSD. Now attach the SATA data cable to the SSD and attach the other end where the orange wire from the CD/DVD drive and blue wire from the hard drive attach to the motherboard.
You should have a couple of empty ports next to where they attach.
Make sure all wires are clear of the fans and close the case up.
Boot the computer into windows. once there Windows will recognize the new hard drive and assign it a drive letter. It will probably be "F" but may not be.
You can go to my computer to check.
Post back the drive letter assigned and what version of windows you are running IE... windows 7, Windows Server 2010 or windows 8 and I will post further instructions.
I was a complete noob at one time also, But since I joined in 96 I have learned a lot from this site and try to pass on my good fortunes.
The cable laying on top of the CPU fan is a SATA power cable.
If you follow it back It connects to your hard drive. Which also has a blue SATA data cable attached to it.
The SSD when mounted to the 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 adaptor will slide in the cage with the hard drive. Secure it with a couple screws that come with the adaptor.
Attach the power cable laying on the CPU fan to the SSD. Now attach the SATA data cable to the SSD and attach the other end where the orange wire from the CD/DVD drive and blue wire from the hard drive attach to the motherboard.
You should have a couple of empty ports next to where they attach.
Make sure all wires are clear of the fans and close the case up.
Boot the computer into windows. once there Windows will recognize the new hard drive and assign it a drive letter. It will probably be "F" but may not be.
You can go to my computer to check.
Post back the drive letter assigned and what version of windows you are running IE... windows 7, Windows Server 2010 or windows 8 and I will post further instructions.
I was a complete noob at one time also, But since I joined in 96 I have learned a lot from this site and try to pass on my good fortunes.
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FlewDesigns
August 26, 2014 8:46:48 AM
Unolocogringo said:
In your picture.The cable laying on top of the CPU fan is a SATA power cable.
If you follow it back It connects to your hard drive. Which also has a blue SATA data cable attached to it.
The SSD when mounted to the 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 adaptor will slide in the cage with the hard drive. Secure it with a couple screws that come with the adaptor.
Attach the power cable laying on the CPU fan to the SSD. Now attach the SATA data cable to the SSD and attach the other end where the orange wire from the CD/DVD drive and blue wire from the hard drive attach to the motherboard.
You should have a couple of empty ports next to where they attach.
Make sure all wires are clear of the fans and close the case up.
Boot the computer into windows. once there Windows will recognize the new hard drive and assign it a drive letter. It will probably be "F" but may not be.
You can go to my computer to check.
Post back the drive letter assigned and what version of windows you are running IE... windows 7, Windows Server 2010 or windows 8 and I will post further instructions.
I was a complete noob at one time also, But since I joined in 96 I have learned a lot from this site and try to pass on my good fortunes.
Okay ill try my best and ill post back what they are when it boots. will order them now.
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FlewDesigns
September 2, 2014 11:14:26 AM
Unolocogringo said:
In your picture.The cable laying on top of the CPU fan is a SATA power cable.
If you follow it back It connects to your hard drive. Which also has a blue SATA data cable attached to it.
The SSD when mounted to the 2 1/2 to 3 1/2 adaptor will slide in the cage with the hard drive. Secure it with a couple screws that come with the adaptor.
Attach the power cable laying on the CPU fan to the SSD. Now attach the SATA data cable to the SSD and attach the other end where the orange wire from the CD/DVD drive and blue wire from the hard drive attach to the motherboard.
You should have a couple of empty ports next to where they attach.
Make sure all wires are clear of the fans and close the case up.
Boot the computer into windows. once there Windows will recognize the new hard drive and assign it a drive letter. It will probably be "F" but may not be.
You can go to my computer to check.
Post back the drive letter assigned and what version of windows you are running IE... windows 7, Windows Server 2010 or windows 8 and I will post further instructions.
I was a complete noob at one time also, But since I joined in 96 I have learned a lot from this site and try to pass on my good fortunes.
Hello! I installed the SSD, but its not showing up? i went to computer and its not showing the drive? but if it was incorrectly installed surely the computer wouldnt start or something? or tell me?. Although I did just check device manager and it sais under disk drives: Samnsung SSD 840 Pro so I asume that it kinda does recognise it? What do i do?
also..
Can a double sata cable be used for both drives? Because I have 2 sata cables 1 for (hard drive) and my new SSD drive. But both have 2 sata cable ends? Its using alot of space up in my rig, if i no if i can do that or not let me know it will tidy it up alot. I just thought.
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One end needs to go to the drive and the other end goes to the motherboard. SATA can not be doubled like the older EIDE drives.
The link to the one I posted has a straight connector on one end and a 90 degree right angle connector on the other end.
Using the angled end on the drive allows the cable to turn straight down from the drive instead of sticking out over the motherboard a couple inches or 5cm.
The link to the one I posted has a straight connector on one end and a 90 degree right angle connector on the other end.
Using the angled end on the drive allows the cable to turn straight down from the drive instead of sticking out over the motherboard a couple inches or 5cm.
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Under My computer you can right click it and in the window that pops up click format.
Capacity
In this window leave the size to its maximum .It will be a little smaller than the drive size. Part of the space will be reserved for the Master file Table when finished.
File System
Select NTFS in this drop down window. For Vista, 7, 8 & windows server.
Allocation unit size
Leave this at default or 4096
Volume label
You can leave it blank or give it any name up to 13 letters.
Then click format button at the bottom.
If you tell me your operating system I will give you specific directions for setting it up as your swap file.
Each one is a little different depending on operating system.
Capacity
In this window leave the size to its maximum .It will be a little smaller than the drive size. Part of the space will be reserved for the Master file Table when finished.
File System
Select NTFS in this drop down window. For Vista, 7, 8 & windows server.
Allocation unit size
Leave this at default or 4096
Volume label
You can leave it blank or give it any name up to 13 letters.
Then click format button at the bottom.
If you tell me your operating system I will give you specific directions for setting it up as your swap file.
Each one is a little different depending on operating system.
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Go to the Control Panel.
Administrative Tools.
Computer management.
Disk Management.
On the right hand pane you will see all of the disks on you computer.
Click the 840 drive to highlight it.
At the top click "Action"
Bring the mouse down to "All Tasts"
Then click "Format" and follow the instructions in the above post.
Once it is finished make sure it is highlighted .
Go to Actions again .
All tasks
And click Mark Active or Mark Partition as active.
When this is done you can close all open windows.
Administrative Tools.
Computer management.
Disk Management.
On the right hand pane you will see all of the disks on you computer.
Click the 840 drive to highlight it.
At the top click "Action"
Bring the mouse down to "All Tasts"
Then click "Format" and follow the instructions in the above post.
Once it is finished make sure it is highlighted .
Go to Actions again .
All tasks
And click Mark Active or Mark Partition as active.
When this is done you can close all open windows.
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To set Virtual memory.
Control Panel.
System.
On the left hand pane click "Advanced System Settings"
On the pop up window make sure you are on the advanced tab.
Under performance click the "settings" button.
On the "performance options" pop up click the advanced tab.
Under "Virtual memory click the Change button.
Remove the check mark by "Automatically manage page file for all drives" by clicking it.
Highlight the 840 drive by clicking it.
Click on "custom size"
In initial size type 122880.
in maximum size type 122880.
Click set.
Click OK 3 times to close all three open windows.
Reboot computer.
Control Panel.
System.
On the left hand pane click "Advanced System Settings"
On the pop up window make sure you are on the advanced tab.
Under performance click the "settings" button.
On the "performance options" pop up click the advanced tab.
Under "Virtual memory click the Change button.
Remove the check mark by "Automatically manage page file for all drives" by clicking it.
Highlight the 840 drive by clicking it.
Click on "custom size"
In initial size type 122880.
in maximum size type 122880.
Click set.
Click OK 3 times to close all three open windows.
Reboot computer.
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