New gaming build, ideas?

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Hey guys,
im making a new build for gaming
Currently im thinking

Case: Thermaltake V71 Black Core Full Tower Case w/ Side Panel Window (CA-1B6-00F1WN-00)~$210

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K Devil's Canyon 3.5GHz 6MB Retail Box (BX80646I54690K) ~$275

Graphics Card: Asus Radeon R9 270 DirectCU II 2GB GDDR5~ $220

SSD:Corsair Force LX 256GB 2.5" SSD (CSSD-F256GBLX )~ $180

HDD: Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 3.5" 2TB 64MB 7200RPM HDD (ST2000DM001) ~$100

Keyboard:Tesoro Lobera Supreme RGB-LED Mechanical Brown Switch Keyboard~ $160

Mouse:Tesoro Shrike H2L Laser Gaming Mouse (TS-H2L)~ $80

Motherboard: Gigabyte Z97X Gaming 7 LGA1150 ATX Motherboard (GA-Z97X-GAMING-7) ~$240

PowerSupply: Thermaltake Toughpower 750W 80Plus Gold Semi-Modular PSU (TP-750AH2NFG) ~$170

Ram: i haven't chosen what brand, and how much to buy yet...~~$150??

Total: $1785

I wasnt going to buy a sound card and just use onboard, but if thats a big issue i have no problem buying one. Im okay with spending a little more money on any of the parts. Any general advice or opinions would be great!
thanks
 
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You wasted A LOT of money on the case and PSU, and that money can DEFINITELY be used in a better way.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ECS Z97-MACHINE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.93 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @...
You wasted A LOT of money on the case and PSU, and that money can DEFINITELY be used in a better way.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($319.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ECS Z97-MACHINE ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($91.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Crucial Ballistix Sport 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($149.99 @ Micro Center)
Storage: Crucial M500 240GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($109.93 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI GeForce GTX 780 3GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($477.98 @ SuperBiiz)
Case: Corsair 230T Windowed-BLUE ATX Mid Tower Case ($69.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair 760W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($184.99 @ Amazon)
Total: $1485.83
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-19 22:55 EDT-0400
 
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unless those are non-US prices, that's a whole lotta unnecessary spending. i'd cut down a bit on the motherboard & PSU (though not skimping on quality for the latter) and spend more on a better GPU where gaming performance matters & invest a bit on a CPU cooler.

no idea where you live so i'm gonna be general about all this;
you may want to look for a much cheaper motherboard like Asrock's Z97 Extreme 3 or 4. decent enough quality with enough chokes for a decent OC & supports SLI should you go that route. other than that, the motherboard contribute little to gaming performance.

as for the PSU, 550-650W for a single card, 750W max for SLI/CF, 850W max if you plan to dual SLI/CF 780ti's/290X's/295X's. use this this for consultation regarding PSU quality. don't go beyond tier 2 if you know what's good for you; https://community.newegg.com/eggxpert/computer_hardware/f/135081/t/45344.aspx?Redirected=true

for RAM, if this is strictly a gaming machine, get the cheapest 2x4GB DDR3-1600/1866 CL9 you can find. streaming's more CPU intensive than memory intensive, FYI (based on Twitch, anyway). if you're doing any form of rendering/editing, than more RAM can matter.

that should save you enough for either an R9 280 (non-X) or GTX760 at least + a CM Hyper 212 EVO.

consider checking out PCpartpicker for better prices. not really that perfect for some countries like Australia, but it's something.
 

lp231

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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.67 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($519.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser Mouse ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1632.84
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-19 23:14 EDT-0400

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.67 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($198.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($519.99 @ Micro Center)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($13.99 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Mouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser Mouse ($64.99 @ NCIX US)
Total: $1701.04
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-19 23:23 EDT-0400
 

Kenzo112

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They are australian prices, and that gigabyte motherboard is about the same as an asrock, just with a tiny bit better quality...
And about the psu, i had no idea about that, and im ashamed to say i did just randomly choose one, so thanks for that help!
And it is, pretty much only for gaming!
 

lp231

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so you're in Australia?

Exact same parts just switch from US to Australia
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($272.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: Asus MAXIMUS VII HERO ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($273.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($63.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($569.00 @ PLE Computers)
Case: Corsair 300R ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.00 @ CPL Online)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($289.00 @ CPL Online)
Optical Drive: LG GH24NSB0 DVD/CD Writer ($22.00 @ CPL Online)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($115.00 @ CPL Online)
Keyboard: Logitech G710 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($149.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Mouse: Logitech G700s Wireless Laser Mouse ($89.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $2128.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-20 13:24 EST+1000
 

Kenzo112

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Im not actually in need of a OS system, i have a spare on.
same thing for the drive..
So thanks for the effort with those, but there sort of unneeded.
Is the asrock much better than a gigabyte??
and is there a big difference between i5 & i7?
two people have said get each!
Whats the better option?
 

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personal recommendation
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/asrock-motherboard-z97extreme4
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-z97a

a wider selection to consider.
http://au.pcpartpicker.com/parts/motherboard/#sort=a7&c=99

consider mATX if you're not going to run 2 graphic cards.
also, as i mentioned, PCpp is incomplete for some countries. a few days back, a user had posted cheaper parts in Australia than what PCpp had in it's database, so you may find it a good idea to browse each retailers' site on prices, including Amazon, than solely relying on PCpp.
 

lp231

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Core i5 does not have HT, Core i7 does. For gaming get the Core i5 and save that money for a better graphic card.
Between Asrock and Gigabyte it comes down to personal choice, I picked that because it's at a decent price and it has the latest technology like SATA Express and M.2. Both of these Asrock and Gigabyte supports 2-way SLI and CFX at x8/x8. But the Gigabyte cost more over the Asrock.
Okay, so no need for OS and drives. What drives are you talking about? All of the drives?
 

Kenzo112

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Okay, so now
CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($229.67 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($128.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Ares Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1866 Memory ($78.30 @ Newegg)
Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($51.98 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Double Dissipation Video Card ($519.99 @ Micro Center)
Power Supply: Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($169.99 @ Amazon)

So without worrying about all the aesthetics, if i was running this how would it preform?
What games would it not be able to play?
 

Kenzo112

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I will be putting windows 8.1 on it, but i already have it!!
And i dont need a disk drive!
I do need storage though!
 

lp231

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I think you should ask what games should you play not "not be able to play" All of the other builds, excepts yours, is able to play games at very high settings.
So no disk drive? Disk drive is storage drive, unless your talking about disc drive as in optical drive.
Need a storage drive, is that SSD and HDD or just HDD only?

 


This will easily max any game out today at 1080p.
 

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Can you tell im a newbie? ;)
I really appreciate all this btw! :)
Um yeah, sorry misspelt it. I dont need a disc drive, but i will be HDD and SSD. I was thinking a 2Tb HDD and 200ish Gb SSD?
Ive been told, that a good 'test' for a pc is playing crisis 3...
I understand this may sound silly, but will any of these builds run crisis 3?
 

Kenzo112

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Well thats good! :)))
If you're being serious ;)
Why would it be considered overkill??
 

Kenzo112

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What about the ram? Will it need more than 8Gb?
And the CPU and motherboard, will they be enough to compliment the graphics card?
 

lp231

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Both R9-290 and 290x can play games at the highest settings. So it doesn't matter which one, difference between both is around $75 aud.
Base System No keyboard and mouse
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($272.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($95.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($569.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.00 @ PLE Computers)
Total: $1667.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-20 15:01 EST+1000

With keyboard and mouse
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($272.00 @ CPL Online)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($39.00 @ Mwave Australia)
Motherboard: ASRock Z97 EXTREME4 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($189.00 @ CPL Online)
Memory: Kingston Fury Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($95.00 @ CPL Online)
Storage: Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($139.00 @ Centre Com)
Storage: Seagate Barracuda 2TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($93.00 @ Centre Com)
Video Card: XFX Radeon R9 290X 4GB Black Edition Double Dissipation Video Card ($569.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Case: Corsair 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($82.00 @ PCCaseGear)
Power Supply: XFX ProSeries 750W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($189.00 @ PLE Computers)
Keyboard: Corsair Vengeance K60 Wired Gaming Keyboard ($129.00 @ MechKB)
Mouse: Corsair Vengeance M65 Wired Laser Mouse ($68.00 @ CPL Online)
Total: $1864.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-20 15:08 EST+1000
 

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You changed the Power supply from the Corsair 860W 80+ Platinum Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply!
What ones better? The latter is cheaper!
and what about cooling; will i need to invest in some fans or something?
 
The Corsair AX860 is a VERY good PSU. I would get that if it is cheaper.

The 200r comes with a front intake and a rear exhaust fan. If you want, you can buy a fan for the TOP and use it as an exhaust. I recommend changing the case to a 300r for a build like this though.