GTX 760 / GTX 760ti vs GTX 770

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Is there a massive difference between the performance of the 760 ti and the 770, there is quite a big price difference and i want to know if its worth the extra cash

I intend on playing games such as: The upcoming GTA V, Battlefield 4

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760 Ti is only a OEM card which is basically a GTX 670 rebrand, I dont think you can buy it retail.

The 770 is worth the extra over the regular 760, its got a lot more cuda cores.
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Thanks, both in my price range. Just wanted to see which one is better value.
 
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Worth is something only YOU can determine.

If you have the budget for a GTX770, I recommend you buy it.
Otherwise, you will forever wonder if you should have.

Paying a bit more for a superclock version is probably worth it. Paying more for non stock fancy coolers is probably not.
 
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I would say the reverse. The non stock coolers generally give you a cooler and quieter operation. The tiny "superclock" overclocks can be done in a matter of seconds in MSI afterburner, and not worth paying extra for at all.
 
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Absolutely untrue. The only reason to buy a reference-cooled card (which you likely won't find in a "Superclocked" variant, by the way, so that's a bit confusing) is if you plan to replace that reference cooler with a water block for liquid cooling. For air cooling, the third-party coolers Asus, MSI, EVGA, Gigabyte etc. put on their cards are well worth the extra $20 or so.
 
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Here is my reasoning:

1. Price. As a rule the cards with a stock cooler will be cheaper.

2. I prefer cards with stock direct exhaust double slot coolers.
They get the hot vga air directly out the back of the case.
Other aftermarket coolers do a good job of cooling the vga chip in an open testbed.
But in a case,they just dump hot air back into the case where case cooling has to deal with it.
That heats up both the graphics card AND the cpu..... not good.
If you are entertaining dual sli/cf configuration, the top card will get hotter if it can't get sufficient cooling air that is blocked by the lower card. A blower type cooler will help.
3. Graphics card makers are wise to overclocking. They bin their chips and use the best ones in their factory overclocked cards so they can charge more for them. You might get lucky by overclocking a stock card, but don't count on it.

4. How good do you need to be? A stock GTX770 will have a boost clock of 1085.
The top boost clock on any GTX770 currently offered by newegg is 1202. That is about a 10% improvement. Not bad. But, that comes at an added price of perhaps 5% That makes a superclock a decent deal if you don't want to overclock. (assuming you could get 5% more)
5. The reason for water cooling of graphics cards is to allow higher overclocks. It is not really for noise since the coolers themselves are air heat exchangers which also need fans to cool. To my mind, it is better to use exotic cooling funds to buy a better card in the first place. Instead of paying $100+ for cooling a GTX770, use that towards a GTX780.
6. Vram costs extra. From what I read, it is a performance issue, not a functional issue. Here are some tests comparing 2gb vs. 4gb using GTX680 cards which are in the same performance tier as GTX770.
Even with triple monitors the performance difference is minimal.
http://www.pugetsystems.com/labs/articles/Video-Card-Performance-2GB-vs-4GB-Memory-154/

7. As an example of a reference card with higher factory boost of 1124 is this msi GTX770:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127751


 
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I have some doubts that that card would actually achieve and maintain the advertised clock frequency with that cooler, unless you manually set its GPU Boost to an uncomfortably high temperature limit. Additionally, its base clock is only 26 MHz faster than the reference card, anyway. Still, you found it, so I stand corrected on that count.

While there are theoretical advantages to blower-style coolers I really don't think you'll find a lot of evidence of reference coolers actually outperforming the better third-party designs. Their advantages might be a bit more practical in tightly-cramped cases, but components will already be quite hot in such cases from poor airflow anyway. Blowers are also pretty loud.

Besides, that reference-cooled GTX 770 you linked is only $5 cheaper than MSI's Twin Frozr GTX 770 which also has a much higher factory overclock as well. That's a pretty hard sell, in my opinion.
 
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On literally every graphics card I have tried (a lot!), you can surpass the "superclocked" or factory oc editions on regular versions. I very much doubt these millions of superclocked editions are binned any differently. Some of the super high end chips with big premiums are no doubt, like Kingpin editions and MSI lightnings etc, but the regular OC or SC... no way.

My GTX 680, which I consider a fairly poor overclocker can easily clock higher than "superclocked" editions of the GTX 770, which is already a higher clocked gtx 680....
 
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