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Hi, everyone. :)

I've been lurking on this site on and off for quite some time, but I feel it's time I post my situation to get the best advice possible.

So, I bought a computer back in 2011 and it was a mid-range gaming PC at best, as that's all I could afford at the time.

My current PC is:
Windows 7 64bit
i5 2500k 3.30ghz not overclocked
AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB <<weakest link
8GB RAM
700+ Harddrive space left
600w power supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229284


I know I definitely want to be able to play Sims 4, Skyrim on Ultra settings (have all the DLC), and maybe Dragon Age: Inquisition (unless PS4 is supposed to be superior). Probably more but I haven't researched much since my current PC is inadequate.

So, I don't pay any expenses other than some student loans (live at home currently), and my income is $500-600 per paycheck. I have about $2,300+ in the bank right now. This isn't to brag by any means, just to give an idea of where I'm at financially.

I've always played on console over PC simply because my PCs have never been good enough to play anything substantial.

I do like some of the games coming out on the PS4, but there aren't many I like coming out soon. That's roughly $400+ bucks and the price doesn't really fluctuate much.

A gaming PC, on the other hand, is pretty pricey. I don't need a $1500 gaming PC by any means, but I would like to be able to play the games I mentioned on Highest/Ultra settings.

I've been told my CPU is pretty good, but people aren't sure if new graphics cards could be plugged into it or something? Plus the issue of space in my desktop, as you'll see in the link's pictures.


I'm at a loss as to what to do. On the one hand, PS4 isn't going anywhere and is still really new, whereas PC prices seem to go up and down a lot (mostly up from what I've seen).

Not to mention I keep seeing debates on how buying a pre-built wastes more money since they charge more for making it and the parts aren't as good?


Any and all advice is appreciated, and sorry if I rambled too much. :)
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  1. StarryEyedDreamer said:
    Hi, everyone. :)

    I've been lurking on this site on and off for quite some time, but I feel it's time I post my situation to get the best advice possible.

    So, I bought a computer back in 2011 and it was a mid-range gaming PC at best, as that's all I could afford at the time.

    My current PC is:
    Windows 7 64bit
    i5 2500k 3.30ghz not overclocked
    AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB <<weakest link
    8GB RAM
    700+ Harddrive space left
    600w power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229284


    I know I definitely want to be able to play Sims 4, Skyrim on Ultra settings (have all the DLC), and maybe Dragon Age: Inquisition (unless PS4 is supposed to be superior). Probably more but I haven't researched much since my current PC is inadequate.

    So, I don't pay any expenses other than some student loans (live at home currently), and my income is $500-600 per paycheck. I have about $2,300+ in the bank right now. This isn't to brag by any means, just to give an idea of where I'm at financially.

    I've always played on console over PC simply because my PCs have never been good enough to play anything substantial.

    I do like some of the games coming out on the PS4, but there aren't many I like coming out. That's roughly $400+ bucks and the price doesn't really fluctuate much.

    A gaming PC, on the other hand, is pretty pricey. I don't need a $1500 gaming PC by any means, but I would like to be able to play the games I mentioned on Highest/Ultra settings.

    I've been told my CPU is pretty good, but people aren't sure if new graphics cards could be plugged into it or something? Plus the issue of space in my desktop, as you'll see in the link's pictures.


    I'm at a loss as to what to do. On the one hand, PS4 isn't going anywhere and is still really new, whereas PC prices seem to go up and down a lot (mostly up from what I've seen).

    Not to mention I keep seeing debates on how buying a pre-built wastes more money since they charge more for making it and the parts aren't as good?


    Any and all advice is appreciated, and sorry if I rambled too much. :)

    The 2500K is a VERY good overclocker. I would suggest that you get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO cooler and invest in a Geforce GTX 780 GPU. then, overclock your CPU. That should let you play most games on high or ultra for a few years and then, you can keep the GTX 780 and the Hyper 212 EVO and build another PC.
  2. zeyuanfu said:
    StarryEyedDreamer said:
    Hi, everyone. :)

    I've been lurking on this site on and off for quite some time, but I feel it's time I post my situation to get the best advice possible.

    So, I bought a computer back in 2011 and it was a mid-range gaming PC at best, as that's all I could afford at the time.

    My current PC is:
    Windows 7 64bit
    i5 2500k 3.30ghz not overclocked
    AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB <<weakest link
    8GB RAM
    700+ Harddrive space left
    600w power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229284


    I know I definitely want to be able to play Sims 4, Skyrim on Ultra settings (have all the DLC), and maybe Dragon Age: Inquisition (unless PS4 is supposed to be superior). Probably more but I haven't researched much since my current PC is inadequate.

    So, I don't pay any expenses other than some student loans (live at home currently), and my income is $500-600 per paycheck. I have about $2,300+ in the bank right now. This isn't to brag by any means, just to give an idea of where I'm at financially.

    I've always played on console over PC simply because my PCs have never been good enough to play anything substantial.

    I do like some of the games coming out on the PS4, but there aren't many I like coming out. That's roughly $400+ bucks and the price doesn't really fluctuate much.

    A gaming PC, on the other hand, is pretty pricey. I don't need a $1500 gaming PC by any means, but I would like to be able to play the games I mentioned on Highest/Ultra settings.

    I've been told my CPU is pretty good, but people aren't sure if new graphics cards could be plugged into it or something? Plus the issue of space in my desktop, as you'll see in the link's pictures.


    I'm at a loss as to what to do. On the one hand, PS4 isn't going anywhere and is still really new, whereas PC prices seem to go up and down a lot (mostly up from what I've seen).

    Not to mention I keep seeing debates on how buying a pre-built wastes more money since they charge more for making it and the parts aren't as good?


    Any and all advice is appreciated, and sorry if I rambled too much. :)

    The 2500K is a VERY good overclocker. I would suggest that you get the Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO cooler and invest in a Geforce GTX 780 GPU. then, overclock your CPU. That should let you play most games on high or ultra for a few years and then, you can keep the GTX 780 and the Hyper 212 EVO and build another PC.


    Get a R9 290 over a GTX 780, costs $100 less and performs around the same.
  3. Didn't the 290 and the 290x's prices skyrocket because of coin miners?
  4. The 290 also emits more heat and noise compared to the 780.
  5. Without knowing which 600w PSU it has I wouldn't risk a 780 or 290. I know my 780 recommends a 650w psu with 42a on the 12v rail. Apart from that this PC has all the bases of a great gaming machine with just a gpu or gpu & psu upgrade
  6. Since I'm not very familiar with upgrading a pc/swapping cases and such, could any of you link me or give me an idea what new PCs I'd want--either pre-built or parts? I'm a complete noob, haha.

    I also don't know the pros/cons of Nvidia vs AMD for cards and also AMD vs Intel for CPUs.
  7. AMD and Intel don't make PSUs, CPUs do you mean?

    We need to know what PSU you have, and what case.
  8. zeyuanfu said:
    Didn't the 290 and the 290x's prices skyrocket because of coin miners?


    They did a while back, they're much cheaper than the GTX 780s currently, in America at least.
  9. zeyuanfu said:
    The 290 also emits more heat and noise compared to the 780.


    A bit more heat and noise isn't worth spending $100 dollars for the same performance.
  10. You maybe should get another PSU just to be safe...
  11. moozilbee said:
    AMD and Intel don't make PSUs, CPUs do you mean?

    We need to know what PSU you have, and what case.



    Sorry *blush* I meant CPU.

    My case is a cyberpower one and I know I have 600w but not sure the brand. The newegg link I posted is all I know about the computer I bought. The specifications tab lists everything, though. I really would rather have a whole new case and everything as this one doesn't have enough ventilation and stuff I've noticed. I want to say there is Asus hardware in this PC also.

    I'm also not opposed to a new PC that isn't pre-built if it's better as I have a friend who could help me put the PC together.
  12. The link you posted first doesn't show a PSU brand so it's a shitty no name brand, you'll want to replace it with an XFX Pro series 650w.

    The link to the prebuilt isn't too bad, but for the money you could build a MUCH better PC.

    Your PC has a motherboard not made for overclocking, so I wouldn't recommend trying, you might as well just replace everything if you want except the RAM, HDD, and OS.

    Give us a budget (not including the RAM HDD and OS), and we'll give you a build.

    You current PC isn't too bad (other than the GPU + PSU + Mobo), but if you want to upgrade the GPU you'll need to upgrade the PSU and maybe the case, and if you want to overclock you'll need to upgrade the motherboard & CPU cooler, you might as well just get an entirely new PC.
  13. An entirely new PC? No, that doesn't make any sense, don't do that. Just buy a good 600W PSU from Antec, Corsair, or Seasonic and throw in a good GPU such as a 290 or 780. Look up benchmarks for cards and see what one will give you the performance you want.

    I have a 2500k, granted mine is at 4.4Ghz, but I don't think you need to overclock it. You will be fine running it at stock with a 290 or 780, there would only be a slight bottleneck, if any. I would not recommend a new system though, not necessary at all.
  14. Well, a new PC might be the best solution, as I'd need a new case too as this one just doesn't have enough ventilation. To get the case and everything I'd need I'm better off either building a pc with picked parts or a pre-built, at least that's the way it looks.
  15. It depends.
    If you want to overclock your CPU, you'd need a new mobo, PSU, and a CPU cooler, and I doubt it would fit in the case.
    An easier solution is to just make sure your case has enough room for a new GPU, and add in a 290 or 280, and a new PSU, then a new build in a few years.
    Ventilation isn't all that important if you've already got your PC and you're not overclocking.
  16. Ah, that does make sense. By the way, one of my friends suggested this one, but I wasn't sure if it was any good? It's the "level 3" one:


    http://www.digitalstormonline.com/vanquish-ii.asp
  17. For $1000 it's not very good, you could build a much, much better PC than any prebuilt one, there's no reason to buy a prebuilt if you're willing to build one yourself.
  18. The Vanquish II level 3 model would be sufficient to play the games you wanted to play on ultra. However, you could probably build that same system for $100-$200 cheaper if you bought the parts separately and put the computer together yourself. By the way, if building a computer puts you off because it looks or sounds complicated then don't worry because it'a not very tough even for beginners. Also, it would be very helpful if you could give us your max budget so we know what kind of PC gaming system you can afford.
  19. Hello,

    As many have suggested already, you don't need to spend insane amount of money if you decided to only upgraded your PC.
    You can keep your RAM, HDD, OS and even your PC case.

    Cheapest solution (option 1):

    Buy an R9 290 or GTX 780 and a new PSU (I would suggest 650W)
    Replace the old GPU and PSU with the new ones and you are good to go.

    More expensive solution (option 2):

    Same as option 1 plus a new LGA1155 motherboard with Z77 chipset and a new CPU cooler and overclock your CPU.

    Even more expensive solution:

    Same as option 1 plus new LGA1150 motherboard with Z97 chipset and a Intel Core i5-4690K. And since you will have to reinstall your OS buy an SSD to install your OS on and most often used programs. Keep your old HDD for everything else.

    There is nothing to be afraid of when comes to upgrading your PC. Components are made this way that there is virtually no way for you to install them the wrong way. And you can always google for a tutorial if you are stuck with something. The satisfaction you get at the end of the day when your newly upgraded PC is up and running is rather a good feeling :)
  20. Matthew-san said:
    The Vanquish II level 3 model would be sufficient to play the games you wanted to play on ultra. However, you could probably build that same system for $100-$200 cheaper if you bought the parts separately and put the computer together yourself. By the way, if building a computer puts you off because it looks or sounds complicated then don't worry because it'a not very tough even for beginners. Also, it would be very helpful if you could give us your max budget so we know what kind of PC gaming system you can afford.


    Actually you could do it for a lot cheaper than $200 less, "gaming" PCs tend to be very, very overpriced, for $1000 you could build a very nice i5 + R9 290 that can max any game, and would get so much higher framerates than the GTX 760 prebuilt for the same price.
  21. I was thinking more of an Intel + Nvidia build which would cost more than an AMD build.
  22. Yes, building it with a friend/myself is very daunting, I'll admit.

    Well, if I consider shipping and everything I'd rather not go over maybe $1250? Unless it was a super good buy (pre-built or whatever) and was slightly over. I have a little over $2300 right now in the bank, get paid again on the 26th but would like to have at least $1000 left over so I can pay my loans off next month. :)

    I've never had Nvidia, my last two PCs have been Intel and AMD--not by bias, just by chance.

    The other thing too is: do most of the games for PS4/Xbox One come out on PC too that I could play? I think I plan to eventually get one of the gaming systems, but I'm not sure if I should pay over $1000 if I'm not sure what games are made.

    Like I mentioned before, I always played console since my PC was crappy, so I'm sorry if I sound ignorant of the gaming world. I think I plan to play Sims 4, definitely want to play Skyrim and it's 3 DLCs on the highest settings as I haven't touched it yet, and if Dragon Age: Inquisition is for PC and is better on PC--I've noticed some games are made for consoles and the PC ports aren't as easy and vice-versa.


    Thank you all so much for your patience and kindess <3
  23. Saw this parts list on a website and wasn't sure if it was accurate:

    http://elitegamingcomputers.com/top-gaming-computers/

    If you scroll down to the "A 1000 gaming PC" part it lists everything and even has a button to buy all the parts on Amazon.

    "CPU - Intel Core i5-4690K 3.4 GHz (View)
    Motherboard - MSI Z97 PC MATE (View)
    CPU Fan - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (View)
    Video Card - VisionTek Radeon R9 290 (View)
    RAM - Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB (View)
    HDD - Western Digital Blue 1TB (View)
    Case - NZXT Source 220 (View)
    Power Supply - XFX Core Edition PRO 550W (View)
    Optical Drive - Samsung 24x SATA DVD RW (View)
    Grand Total: $980-$1,020"
  24. Matthew-san said:
    I was thinking more of an Intel + Nvidia build which would cost more than an AMD build.


    Not much reason to do Intel + Nvidia currently, at the moment in most GPU price ranges AMD is dominating Nvidia, best example being the 290 vs GTX 780, the 290 performs around the same but costs $100 less, though when the 800 series is released Nvidia will probably come back as a good choice.

    Currently, I would say for high end builds the best option is AMD +Intel, for $1000 an i5 and 290.
  25. StarryEyedDreamer said:
    Saw this parts list on a website and wasn't sure if it was accurate:

    http://elitegamingcomputers.com/top-gaming-computers/

    If you scroll down to the "A 1000 gaming PC" part it lists everything and even has a button to buy all the parts on Amazon.

    "CPU - Intel Core i5-4690K 3.4 GHz (View)
    Motherboard - MSI Z97 PC MATE (View)
    CPU Fan - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (View)
    Video Card - VisionTek Radeon R9 290 (View)
    RAM - Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB (View)
    HDD - Western Digital Blue 1TB (View)
    Case - NZXT Source 220 (View)
    Power Supply - XFX Core Edition PRO 550W (View)
    Optical Drive - Samsung 24x SATA DVD RW (View)
    Grand Total: $980-$1,020"


    Their $1000 PC is actually very good, it's pretty much exactly what I was going to suggest, the R9 290 + i5 4690 works very well, and can max out any game @60fps easily.

    Try entering all the parts into PCpartpicker, it'll give you the lowest prices from a selection of stores which could save quite a bit of money.
  26. Most console games can also be found on PC. Sometimes games aren't very well optimized for PC but in more recent years that hasn't been as much of a problem. In general though, high-end PC's run console games much much better. Meaning that the graphics are usually better, fps is better, and high-end PC's are capable of running the same games consoles do but at much higher resolutions. There are some exclusive for the Xbox One and PS4 but not enough right now that you should buy one just for the exclusives.

    Don't be worried about building a PC, there are plenty of guides online (YouTube being my favorite source) that tell you exactly what you need to do to properly assemble your computer. Also, if you ever have any questions, Tom's Hardware is the best place for them.

    Here's what I recommend for your PC build:

    Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H
    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690k
    OS: Windows 8 Home Premium
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB)
    GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 6GB SC
    PSU: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt
    HDD: WD Blue 1 TB
    Case: NZXT SWITCH 810 White Full Tower Case
    Optical Drive: LG Optical DVD Drive GH24NSB0B

    Grand Total: $ 1,363.42

    It's a little over your max budget but I found these parts on Amazon so you could probably get them cheaper somewhere else. You could also sell the parts from your old PC to help afford a new one. This build will definitely play the games you wanted to play on ultra easily. Btw, Dragon Age Inquisition will most likely look a good bit better on PC and with this build it'll run better than it would on an Xbox One or PS4.
  27. moozilbee said:
    StarryEyedDreamer said:
    Saw this parts list on a website and wasn't sure if it was accurate:

    http://elitegamingcomputers.com/top-gaming-computers/

    If you scroll down to the "A 1000 gaming PC" part it lists everything and even has a button to buy all the parts on Amazon.

    "CPU - Intel Core i5-4690K 3.4 GHz (View)
    Motherboard - MSI Z97 PC MATE (View)
    CPU Fan - Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO (View)
    Video Card - VisionTek Radeon R9 290 (View)
    RAM - Kingston HyperX Blue 8GB (View)
    HDD - Western Digital Blue 1TB (View)
    Case - NZXT Source 220 (View)
    Power Supply - XFX Core Edition PRO 550W (View)
    Optical Drive - Samsung 24x SATA DVD RW (View)
    Grand Total: $980-$1,020"


    Their $1000 PC is actually very good, it's pretty much exactly what I was going to suggest, the R9 290 + i5 4690 works very well, and can max out any game @60fps easily.

    Try entering all the parts into PCpartpicker, it'll give you the lowest prices from a selection of stores which could save quite a bit of money.



    Oh, I'm actually not very familiar with PCpartpicker. Hmm.


    Unless I did this wrong, it looks a little bit more on partpicker:
    http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/
  28. Okay, I found something that might be a compromise between building it myself and pre-built.

    This allows you to choose your own parts:
    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/CyberPower_Z97_i5_Configurator/

    Someone posted this config as a suggestion, not sure if it's any good:
    *BASE_PRICE: [+685]
    BLUETOOTH: None
    CABLE: None
    CAS: Corsair Carbide 300R w/ USB 3.0
    CASUPGRADE: None
    CD: 24X Double Layer Dual Format DVD+-R/+-RW + CD-R/RW Drive (BLACK COLOR)
    CD2: None
    COOLANT: Standard Coolant
    CPU: Intel® Core™ i5-4690 3.50 GHz 6MB LGA1150
    CS_FAN: Maximum 120MM Color Case Cooling Fans for your selected case [+15] (Blue Color)
    DOCKINGSTATION: None
    ENGRAVING: None
    ENGRAVING_MSG:
    FA_HDD: None
    FAN: * Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler w/ PWM fan - Efficient Cooling Performance [+4]
    FLASHMEDIA: None

    GLASSES: None
    HDD: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
    HDD2: None
    HEADSET: None
    IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
    KEYBOARD: AZZA Multimedia USB Gaming Keyboard

    MEMORY: 8GB (4GBx2) DDR3/1866MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance [+33])

    MOTHERBOARD: ASUS Z97-K ATX w/ Intel GbLAN, 2 PCIe x16, 2 PCIe x1, 2 PCI, 1 x M.2, 6x SATA 6Gb/s [+10]
    MOUSE: AZZA Optical 1600dpi Gaming Mouse with Weight Adjustable Cartridge
    NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network

    OS: None - FORMAT HARD DRIVE ONLY
    OVERCLOCK: No Overclocking
    POWERSUPPLY: 750 Watts - Corsair CX750 750W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply [+53]
    RUSH: Standard processing time: ship within 2 to 3 weeks
    SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR [3 Year Labor, 1 Year Parts] LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
    SOUND: HIGH DEFINITION ON-BOARD 7.1 AUDIO

    VIDEO: EVGA Superclocked NVIDIA GeForce GTX 760 2GB GDDR5 w/ ACX Cooling PCIe 3.0 x16 Video Card [+181] (Single Card)
    WNC: None
    _PRICE: (+981)


    Anyway, it might be a good compromise since they do list the R9 ones as well?
    I would prefer a blue theme over any other color, though. :)
  29. I would not go with the Cyberpower PC if I were you because the GPU is too weak and the power source is only 350 watts which is most likely not enough for that system build and if so then just barely. That system build suggested to you is adequate for High-Ultra for the games you wanted to play.
  30. Just don't go with any prebuilt PC, or pick parts and have someone build it for you, it's a waste of money.
    It really isn't that difficult to do it yourself, and you learn a new skill, and can repair your computer in future, saving you more money, you save A LOT of money over buying a "gaming PC" from a prebuilt website, which are often priced at a few hundred dollars more than what they're worth.


    But, as said before, in your case your easiest, cheapest option is to upgrade your GPU & PSU.
    In future you can upgrade your CPU, which would require pretty much a "new" PC, as you would have to change the case, mobo, CPU, and cooler.
  31. Matthew-san said:
    Most console games can also be found on PC. Sometimes games aren't very well optimized for PC but in more recent years that hasn't been as much of a problem. In general though, high-end PC's run console games much much better. Meaning that the graphics are usually better, fps is better, and high-end PC's are capable of running the same games consoles do but at much higher resolutions. There are some exclusive for the Xbox One and PS4 but not enough right now that you should buy one just for the exclusives.

    Don't be worried about building a PC, there are plenty of guides online (YouTube being my favorite source) that tell you exactly what you need to do to properly assemble your computer. Also, if you ever have any questions, Tom's Hardware is the best place for them.

    Here's what I recommend for your PC build:

    Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-Z97X-UD5H
    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690k
    OS: Windows 8 Home Premium
    RAM: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2x4GB)
    GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 780 6GB SC
    PSU: Corsair CX Series 750 Watt
    HDD: WD Blue 1 TB
    Case: NZXT SWITCH 810 White Full Tower Case
    Optical Drive: LG Optical DVD Drive GH24NSB0B

    Grand Total: $ 1,363.42

    It's a little over your max budget but I found these parts on Amazon so you could probably get them cheaper somewhere else. You could also sell the parts from your old PC to help afford a new one. This build will definitely play the games you wanted to play on ultra easily. Btw, Dragon Age Inquisition will most likely look a good bit better on PC and with this build it'll run better than it would on an Xbox One or PS4.


    A few problems with your build:
    You should use PCPartpicker, it automatically finds the cheapest price.
    You should always get the R9 290 over the GTX 780 at the moment, it costs $100 less and performs around the same.
    Don't buy a CX PSU, they're pretty bad quality.
    Not mandatory, but if you want to overclock it's a good idea to get an aftermarket cooler.

    This would be a lot better for $200 less:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-P ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($109.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Team Vulcan 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($79.99 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: MSI Radeon R9 290 4GB TWIN FROZR Video Card ($418.98 @ SuperBiiz)
    Case: Corsair SPEC-02 ATX Mid Tower Case ($39.99 @ Micro Center)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($84.99 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $1089.89
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-21 07:18 EDT-0400
  32. Or get a 290x but I'm not sure about the price:)
  33. Okay, I tried the part picker myself...did I do okay or do things need fixed? Do I need 16GB or is 8GB sufficient? What about SSD? Could do the R9 280 if better?

    PCPartPicker part list: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/3WmHqs


    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ OutletPC)
    Motherboard: Asus Z97-A ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($144.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: Kingston 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($83.99 @ Amazon)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 780 3GB DirectCU II Video Card ($429.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.99 @ Newegg)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
    Optical Drive: Samsung SH-224DB/BEBE DVD/CD Writer ($15.98 @ OutletPC)
    Operating System: Microsoft Windows 8.1 - 64-bit (OEM) (64-bit) ($92.98 @ OutletPC)
    Total: $1178.86
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-21 09:37 EDT-0400
  34. zeyuanfu said:
    Or get a 290x but I'm not sure about the price:)


    That would just introduce more of a CPU bottleneck, a single 290 is more than enough for 1080p 60hz gaming.
  35. moozilbee said:
    zeyuanfu said:
    Or get a 290x but I'm not sure about the price:)


    That would just introduce more of a CPU bottleneck, a single 290 is more than enough for 1080p 60hz gaming.


    I posted a new reply right before yours using partpicker. :)
  36. StarryEyedDreamer said:
    moozilbee said:
    zeyuanfu said:
    Or get a 290x but I'm not sure about the price:)


    That would just introduce more of a CPU bottleneck, a single 290 is more than enough for 1080p 60hz gaming.


    I posted a new reply right before yours using partpicker. :)


    A few things need changing, but like we said before it's not that nescessary to buy an entire new PC, for now just get a R9 290 and a new PSU, make sure it will fit though.
  37. StarryEyedDreamer said:
    Hi, everyone. :)

    I've been lurking on this site on and off for quite some time, but I feel it's time I post my situation to get the best advice possible.

    So, I bought a computer back in 2011 and it was a mid-range gaming PC at best, as that's all I could afford at the time.

    My current PC is:
    Windows 7 64bit
    i5 2500k 3.30ghz not overclocked
    AMD Radeon HD 6670 1GB <<weakest link
    8GB RAM
    700+ Harddrive space left
    600w power supply
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16883229284


    I know I definitely want to be able to play Sims 4, Skyrim on Ultra settings (have all the DLC), and maybe Dragon Age: Inquisition (unless PS4 is supposed to be superior). Probably more but I haven't researched much since my current PC is inadequate.

    So, I don't pay any expenses other than some student loans (live at home currently), and my income is $500-600 per paycheck. I have about $2,300+ in the bank right now. This isn't to brag by any means, just to give an idea of where I'm at financially.

    I've always played on console over PC simply because my PCs have never been good enough to play anything substantial.

    I do like some of the games coming out on the PS4, but there aren't many I like coming out soon. That's roughly $400+ bucks and the price doesn't really fluctuate much.

    A gaming PC, on the other hand, is pretty pricey. I don't need a $1500 gaming PC by any means, but I would like to be able to play the games I mentioned on Highest/Ultra settings.

    I've been told my CPU is pretty good, but people aren't sure if new graphics cards could be plugged into it or something? Plus the issue of space in my desktop, as you'll see in the link's pictures.


    I'm at a loss as to what to do. On the one hand, PS4 isn't going anywhere and is still really new, whereas PC prices seem to go up and down a lot (mostly up from what I've seen).

    Not to mention I keep seeing debates on how buying a pre-built wastes more money since they charge more for making it and the parts aren't as good?


    Any and all advice is appreciated, and sorry if I rambled too much. :)


    My Advise would be to buy a new system,

    CPU I5 4690k one of best the best preforming Gaming CPUS
    Ram 8GB Hyper X or Corsair Vengeance
    120GB Samsung SSD for your OS
    1TB HDD for all other things
    GPU either a Nvidia 760 or a R9 280x
    Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H
    Case: Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case
    PSU Coolermaster VS-Series 750W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
  38. Well, honestly I'm thinking of just doing a whole new PC even if I don't 100% have to. I have a friend named Steven who said he would help me build anything I came up with as he has built a few of them at this point. I promise I'm not trying to be a pain--my father could really use this current PC as his is on its way out. He's not a huge gamer on PC so this would fit his needs. :)

    Sorry that I forgot to mention this sooner--wasn't trying to be stubborn.
  39. StarryEyedDreamer said:
    Well, honestly I'm thinking of just doing a whole new PC even if I don't 100% have to. I have a friend named Steven who said he would help me build anything I came up with as he has built a few of them at this point. I promise I'm not trying to be a pain--my father could really use this current PC as his is on its way out. He's not a huge gamer on PC so this would fit his needs. :)


    Ah, if you have a use for this old PC then go ahead and build a new one, I assume your budget is around $1200?

    Give me a minute and I'll get a build.
  40. My Advise would be to buy a new system,

    CPU I5 4690k one of best the best preforming Gaming CPUS
    Ram 8GB Hyper X or Corsair Vengeance
    120GB Samsung SSD for your OS
    1TB HDD for all other things
    GPU either a Nvidia 760 or a R9 280x
    Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H
    Case: Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case
    PSU Coolermaster VS-Series 750W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply
  41. Hawkshot said:
    My Advise would be to buy a new system,

    CPU I5 4690k one of best the best preforming Gaming CPUS
    Ram 8GB Hyper X or Corsair Vengeance
    120GB Samsung SSD for your OS
    1TB HDD for all other things
    GPU either a Nvidia 760 or a R9 280x
    Motherboard Gigabyte GA-Z87X-UD4H
    Case: Zalman Z11 Plus High Performance Mid Tower Case
    PSU Coolermaster VS-Series 750W Semi Modular 80+ Gold Power Supply


    You just posted that exact thing.
  42. Here, black and red build:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 113.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $1162.41
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-21 10:36 EDT-0400

    Can max any game @1080p 60fps very easily, shouldn't struggle very much with 120fps on most games either.
    Designed for some heavy CPU overclocking, and for silence.
  43. moozilbee said:
    Here, black and red build:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 113.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $1162.41
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-21 10:36 EDT-0400

    Can max any game @1080p 60fps very easily, shouldn't struggle very much with 120fps on most games either.
    Designed for some heavy CPU overclocking, and for silence.



    Looks/sounds great, only request is if there is a good case with ventilation/space that's blue or black? I'm partial to blue :)

    Also, since I don't really know how to/what overclocking is, would I need that or no?
  44. You Need Nothing...but get a pair of G-Skill MEMs and yes upgrade your GPU..I would like a card manufactured by ASUS and the Chipset obviously nvidia.....a gtx 760or better.....
  45. 2xmars11 said:
    You Need Nothing...but get a pair of G-Skill MEMs and yes upgrade your GPU..I would like a card manufactured by ASUS and the Chipset obviously nvidia.....a gtx 760or better.....


    He just said he wants to build an entirely new PC because he's giving this one to his Dad anyway.
  46. StarryEyedDreamer said:
    moozilbee said:
    Here, black and red build:
    PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

    CPU: Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor ($224.99 @ Amazon)
    CPU Cooler: be quiet! Dark Rock 3 113.8 CFM Fluid Dynamic Bearing CPU Cooler ($79.99 @ NCIX US)
    Motherboard: MSI Z97-Gaming 3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard ($119.99 @ Amazon)
    Memory: G.Skill Sniper Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-2133 Memory ($76.50 @ Newegg)
    Storage: Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($104.99 @ NCIX US)
    Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($55.98 @ OutletPC)
    Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon R9 290 4GB WINDFORCE Video Card ($349.99 @ NCIX US)
    Case: NZXT H440 (Black/Red) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Micro Center)
    Power Supply: XFX 650W 80+ Bronze Certified ATX Power Supply ($49.99 @ NCIX US)
    Total: $1162.41
    Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
    Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-08-21 10:36 EDT-0400

    Can max any game @1080p 60fps very easily, shouldn't struggle very much with 120fps on most games either.
    Designed for some heavy CPU overclocking, and for silence.



    Looks/sounds great, only request is if there is a good case with ventilation/space that's blue or black? I'm partial to blue :)

    Also, since I don't really know how to/what overclocking is, would I need that or no?


    The H440 case doesn't have that great ventilation, but it won't really matter as long as you have decent cooling, which the build I posted does.

    The H440 also comes in blue and black, see if it's what you want here: https://www.google.co.uk/search?q=H440&es_sm=122&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=ECX2U_X1JonH7AbjzIBA&ved=0CAoQ_AUoAw&biw=1680&bih=925#q=H440+blue&tbm=isch

    Overclocking is basically setting your CPU or GPU or memory to run faster, so they perform better. The downside is that it takes some time to make sure it's stable, and it causes the components to generate more heat, so you need good cooling, and a good motherboard.
    This build is designed with overclocking in mind, it has a very good CPU cooler and a motherboard for overclocking. CPU overclocking is most common, as it's easiest to do (sort of) and you simply need a good cooler and motherboard. GPU overclocking is less common, but still fairly easy, it's just not needed as much usually because most gaming PCs already have very good GPUs. Memory overclocking is uncommon despite being fairly easy, because overclocking memory tends to not increase performance in games very much.

    Overclocking sounds very complicated, but it's actually quite easy, it just takes some spare time, it's easier than building the PC itself, and you can find simple guides to overclocking online.

    If you don't want to overclock, then I can make a slightly cheaper build for you that won't be able to overclock.
  47. No you do not need to overclock. Overclocking is when you push a specific component, such as the CPU or GPU, past it's standard speeds in order to get better performance out of it. There are some dangers that come with overclocking. The worst being that you break your hardware so it's unusable. I wouldn't advise overclocking yet since you're new to computer stuff.
  48. moozilbee said:
    2xmars11 said:
    You Need Nothing...but get a pair of G-Skill MEMs and yes upgrade your GPU..I would like a card manufactured by ASUS and the Chipset obviously nvidia.....a gtx 760or better.....


    He just said he wants to build an entirely new PC because he's giving this one to his Dad anyway.


    I'm actually a she/female :D
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