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August 20, 2014 1:28:40 PM

This is going to be my first time building a computer, and I would like some feed back on my build. Im going to mostly be using this computer for gaming. I dont play fps games on pc, I mostly play open world rpgs and dota 2. I need this build to be able to run the witcher 3 and dragon age inquisition on fairly high settings. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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August 20, 2014 1:32:16 PM

Drop the h100i, get a 780ti, part from that, all good
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August 20, 2014 1:33:48 PM

Looks okay. Next time, use PCPartPicker. And also, if you don't need to record, I recommend a R9 290X instead. And I also would recommend adding $10 dollars for full modular (RM750).
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August 20, 2014 1:37:43 PM

And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo
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August 20, 2014 1:39:51 PM

legend001523 said:
Drop the h100i, get a 780ti, part from that, all good


Is the 780ti a cooling system or a gpu?

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August 20, 2014 1:40:34 PM

xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo


Can you recommend a specific one please.

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August 20, 2014 1:43:03 PM

s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo


Can you recommend a specific one please.



You should pick yourself, on the fact how much money you want to spend and what will u use it for. I recommend Asus Sabertooth for gaming, or MSI gaming series. And you should look at the compatibility too.
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August 20, 2014 1:43:08 PM

okcnaline said:
Looks okay. Next time, use PCPartPicker. And also, if you don't need to record, I recommend a R9 290X instead. And I also would recommend adding $10 dollars for full modular (RM750).


Is the RM750 a different power supply?
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August 20, 2014 1:48:52 PM

780ti is a gpu
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August 20, 2014 1:52:23 PM

#1: If you WANT to change the motherboard, I would suggest the ECS Z97 Machine. There was a review of budget motherboard weeks before.

#2: 780 Ti's a GPU. But do you record? Cause 780 Ti's up there designed for game recording and YouTube.

3# RM750 is a slightly different PSU. It's still by Corsair, but it's fully modular.
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August 20, 2014 1:52:29 PM

legend001523 said:
780ti is a gpu



If i got the 780ti why would I be able to drop the h100i? Wouldnt I still need a cooler or fan?
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August 20, 2014 1:54:40 PM

xBlaz3kx said:
s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo


Can you recommend a specific one please.



You should pick yourself, on the fact how much money you want to spend and what will u use it for. I recommend Asus Sabertooth for gaming, or MSI gaming series. And you should look at the compatibility too.


This one seem ok
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

sorry to keep asking but I don't know much about compatibility between components yet.
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August 20, 2014 1:58:29 PM

okcnaline said:
#1: If you WANT to change the motherboard, I would suggest the ECS Z97 Machine. There was a review of budget motherboard weeks before.

#2: 780 Ti's a GPU. But do you record? Cause 780 Ti's up there designed for game recording and YouTube.

3# RM750 is a slightly different PSU. It's still by Corsair, but it's fully modular.


I dont record. Should i change the gpu?

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August 20, 2014 2:02:50 PM

s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo


Can you recommend a specific one please.



You should pick yourself, on the fact how much money you want to spend and what will u use it for. I recommend Asus Sabertooth for gaming, or MSI gaming series. And you should look at the compatibility too.


This one seem ok
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

sorry to keep asking but I don't know much about compatibility between components yet.


This one wont work. The LGA is 1155, the processor has LGA 1150. Compatibility is like stacking puzzles. Just need to find similar parts.
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August 20, 2014 2:29:26 PM

Wait I'm sorry, how is a 780 ti 'designed to record'? That's down to the processor
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August 20, 2014 2:30:14 PM

To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will do
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August 20, 2014 2:32:01 PM

legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will do


Agreed, spend your money on cheaper Hyper 212 evo or a better case to fit the components in.
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August 20, 2014 2:38:13 PM

legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will do


How much better is the 780ti? Its $200 more than the 780.
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August 20, 2014 2:39:17 PM

xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will do


Agreed, spend your money on cheaper Hyper 212 evo or a better case to fit the components in.


Whats wrong with the case?
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August 20, 2014 2:41:22 PM

legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will do


s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will do


Agreed, spend your money on cheaper Hyper 212 evo or a better case to fit the components in.


Whats wrong with the case?


Nothing, just make sure its big and well cooled enough.
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August 20, 2014 2:46:41 PM

By dropping the h100i you will be able to afford it imo, it's the best single gpu there is, I'd say it's worth it if you can afford it
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August 20, 2014 2:55:11 PM

@legend001523: The 780 Ti's overly sufficient to for maxing out games. That'll do well in recording on high, and you would definitely save $75 for that and an i7. However, since he says that he doesn't really need recording, he doesn't need to be too OP at games either.

@s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.
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August 20, 2014 3:00:25 PM

A cpu is needed for recording by your explanation, everyone who owns a 780 ti records gameplay? A i7 is recommended for people who record, a 780 ti is for people who can afford it and want good fps no matter 1080p or 4k
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August 20, 2014 3:02:35 PM

okcnaline said:
@legend001523: The 780 Ti's overly sufficient to for maxing out games. That'll do well in recording on high, and you would definitely save $75 for that and an i7. However, since he says that he doesn't really need recording, he doesn't need to be too OP at games either.

@s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.


Would it be worth dropping down to 8gb of ram instead of 16gb of ram and upgrading to an i7?

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August 20, 2014 3:04:00 PM

s3478h99 said:
okcnaline said:
@legend001523: The 780 Ti's overly sufficient to for maxing out games. That'll do well in recording on high, and you would definitely save $75 for that and an i7. However, since he says that he doesn't really need recording, he doesn't need to be too OP at games either.

@s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.


Would it be worth dropping down to 8gb of ram instead of 16gb of ram and upgrading to an i7?



Worth, but pick a ram with low latency and a bit higher speed (1866mhz/2133mhz)
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August 20, 2014 6:32:11 PM

He doesn't use 4K or record (780 Ti as the extra needed performance for recording games at High). So why need a 780 Ti? A 290X can max games at Ultra already. And the i5's fine. If you want, since you have a water cooler, OC it to 4.0 Ghz, but 16 GB of RAM helps to keep games on Ultra.
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August 21, 2014 2:05:33 AM

And again, how does a 780 ti help record better? That relies on the cpu, r9 290x's have heat issues and temp issues, without good airflow in the case that won't be good, not to mention black screens are quite common with 290x's, if the OP can afdord a 780ti, I honestly don't see why not, it's never been labelled as a 'recording card'
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August 21, 2014 2:07:50 AM

Please elaborate on your '16gb of ram helps to keep it on ultra'? So any pc without 16gb of ram cant play ultra?
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August 21, 2014 2:36:32 AM

legend001523 said:
Please elaborate on your '16gb of ram helps to keep it on ultra'? So any pc without 16gb of ram cant play ultra?


of course it can, depends on graphics lol
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August 21, 2014 2:38:36 AM

Please show me benchamrks where 16gb of ram is better for gaming?
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August 21, 2014 2:46:00 AM

legend001523 said:
Please show me benchamrks where 16gb of ram is better for gaming?


But still the more ram the better
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August 21, 2014 2:47:53 AM

xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
Please show me benchamrks where 16gb of ram is better for gaming?


But still the more ram the better


If you have evidence to suggest that i'd love to see it
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August 21, 2014 2:52:30 AM

legend001523 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
Please show me benchamrks where 16gb of ram is better for gaming?


But still the more ram the better


If you have evidence to suggest that i'd love to see it


*Quoting from wikipedia: A random-access memory device allows data items to be read and written in roughly the same amount of time regardless of the order in which data items are accessed.So as a conclusion: It allows faster data acess if you have lower latency and more gigs.

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August 21, 2014 2:53:51 AM

No, wikipedia is not a reliable source not to mention it's not about data transfer, give me benchmarks or videos, one or the other
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August 21, 2014 2:59:54 AM

It say 'more RAM' Not 'why 16gb is better than 8gb'
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August 21, 2014 3:05:28 AM

xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2042001/8gb-16...
here, I've even found one for you


Isnt 16 gb more than 8 gb? Anyways, depends on latency and frequency.


For all we know, the post may have been regarding whether to up[grade from 2gb to 8gb, it doesn't apply to every number, also, even during games, the ram usage is 2-4gb at max, so having 16gb won't help, unless you know magic which can utilise it
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August 21, 2014 3:06:09 AM

Oh and read the best solution on the link please? You might learn something :) 
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August 21, 2014 12:52:26 PM

I'm tired of your. IF YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID, THEN 4 GB WOULD BE ENOUGH, WON'T IT?! No. 16 GB is just a size, a cache for files (exe or jpg, doesn't matter). 8 GB may be enough, so is 16. He can save money, but it's FINE.

Does he need 780 Ti? No. That's too much extra FPS, and a R9 290X is enough to max out ALMOST every resource-taking games, so the build's perfect. I don't know why you guys are still arguing over tinny little stuff like this that would bring him 5-20 more FPS but he's made a almost-every-game playable rig.
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August 21, 2014 12:56:22 PM

It's actually a debate, not a argument. If the OP can afford a 780 ti why not? Black screens are a common sight on these forums regarding the 290x and because we're trying to help the OP trying to get the best out of their money, by telling the OP misleading information like a 780 ti is more suited for recorsing, 16gb ram gets more fps, these points need to be corrected to let the OP know what is actually true, and what is actually false.
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August 21, 2014 1:08:14 PM

Then ask yourself, WHY YES?!!! I am VERY serious here. A 780 is enough to max out most games, so would a R9 290X. I don't think it really benefits him to have 5 more FPS when he can have >30 FPS on high, DOES IT? He can, but not worth giving ~$60 more. Does 16 GB RAM 1600 Mhz or 8 GB RAM 2133 Mhz matter? When he already (again) has >30 FPS? No. Black Screen on R9 290X? I will suggest MSI, Gigabyte, or ASUS (Cause I trust 'em) boards. I'm tired of this, cause you guys are instead trying to go for more bucks when in my opinion, he can decrease just a little bit of money and he would get the golden build of the year or something.

So again, think about what you're doing. Is it worth upgrading or speeding up anything for just a few more FPS when there's already the good enough amount?
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August 21, 2014 1:11:31 PM

Black screens are down to the chipset itself, bot just down to the manufacturer, it kinda does, 16gb is not needed at all, being deadly serious here, 8gb is fine for gaming, considering that the op may get a 120hz monitor or go 1440p, a 780 ti would be a good incestment for witcher 3 and future monitor upgrades
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August 21, 2014 1:22:01 PM

By estimate, 8 GB would do fine in gaming. But then, he doesn't need 780 Ti at all. He can tune the settings down a bit, and he's ready for 1440p. It's not that much extra pixels anyway. And he already got a great bang for the buck. Does a tenny tinny bit of buck help justify for a bit more performance? And I'm sure he can steal away with actually a BIT less money.
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August 21, 2014 1:25:24 PM

You don't need to estimate, 8gb is established as the go to amouny for a gaming pc, if the OP has enough money, I don't see why not...
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August 21, 2014 1:27:51 PM

Ohkay then, that's a decrease of RAM and a higher speed DIMM.
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August 21, 2014 2:08:45 PM

(LOL!!! Am I dreaming or is this same as the one in my saved partlist.)

Yep, it's all right. The build will be perfect except you need a R9 290X. And the motherboard in the updated partlist is much more cheap and valuable than the Asus.
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August 21, 2014 2:23:07 PM

OP you need permalink
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