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s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:28:40 PM
This is going to be my first time building a computer, and I would like some feed back on my build. Im going to mostly be using this computer for gaming. I dont play fps games on pc, I mostly play open world rpgs and dota 2. I need this build to be able to run the witcher 3 and dragon age inquisition on fairly high settings. Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
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legend001523
August 20, 2014 1:32:16 PM
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August 20, 2014 1:33:48 PM
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xBlaz3kx
August 20, 2014 1:37:43 PM
s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:39:51 PM
s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:40:34 PM
xBlaz3kx
August 20, 2014 1:43:03 PM
s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo Can you recommend a specific one please.
You should pick yourself, on the fact how much money you want to spend and what will u use it for. I recommend Asus Sabertooth for gaming, or MSI gaming series. And you should look at the compatibility too.
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s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:43:08 PM
legend001523
August 20, 2014 1:48:52 PM
okcnaline
August 20, 2014 1:52:23 PM
#1: If you WANT to change the motherboard, I would suggest the ECS Z97 Machine. There was a review of budget motherboard weeks before.
#2: 780 Ti's a GPU. But do you record? Cause 780 Ti's up there designed for game recording and YouTube.
3# RM750 is a slightly different PSU. It's still by Corsair, but it's fully modular.
#2: 780 Ti's a GPU. But do you record? Cause 780 Ti's up there designed for game recording and YouTube.
3# RM750 is a slightly different PSU. It's still by Corsair, but it's fully modular.
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s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:52:29 PM
s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:54:40 PM
xBlaz3kx said:
s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo Can you recommend a specific one please.
You should pick yourself, on the fact how much money you want to spend and what will u use it for. I recommend Asus Sabertooth for gaming, or MSI gaming series. And you should look at the compatibility too.
This one seem ok
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
sorry to keep asking but I don't know much about compatibility between components yet.
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s3478h99
August 20, 2014 1:58:29 PM
okcnaline said:
#1: If you WANT to change the motherboard, I would suggest the ECS Z97 Machine. There was a review of budget motherboard weeks before.#2: 780 Ti's a GPU. But do you record? Cause 780 Ti's up there designed for game recording and YouTube.
3# RM750 is a slightly different PSU. It's still by Corsair, but it's fully modular.
I dont record. Should i change the gpu?
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xBlaz3kx
August 20, 2014 2:02:50 PM
s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
s3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
And get an Asus or MSI motherboard. ASRock cant compare to them. Replace h100i with CM Hyper 212 Evo Can you recommend a specific one please.
You should pick yourself, on the fact how much money you want to spend and what will u use it for. I recommend Asus Sabertooth for gaming, or MSI gaming series. And you should look at the compatibility too.
This one seem ok
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
sorry to keep asking but I don't know much about compatibility between components yet.
This one wont work. The LGA is 1155, the processor has LGA 1150. Compatibility is like stacking puzzles. Just need to find similar parts.
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legend001523
August 20, 2014 2:29:26 PM
legend001523
August 20, 2014 2:30:14 PM
xBlaz3kx
August 20, 2014 2:32:01 PM
s3478h99
August 20, 2014 2:38:13 PM
s3478h99
August 20, 2014 2:39:17 PM
xBlaz3kx
August 20, 2014 2:41:22 PM
legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will dos3478h99 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
To OP: I mean by not buying the h100i, you can use the money saved to get a better gpu, a stock or hyper evo 212 will doAgreed, spend your money on cheaper Hyper 212 evo or a better case to fit the components in.
Whats wrong with the case?
Nothing, just make sure its big and well cooled enough.
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legend001523
August 20, 2014 2:46:41 PM
okcnaline
August 20, 2014 2:55:11 PM
@legend001523: The 780 Ti's overly sufficient to for maxing out games. That'll do well in recording on high, and you would definitely save $75 for that and an i7. However, since he says that he doesn't really need recording, he doesn't need to be too OP at games either.
@s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.
@s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.
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legend001523
August 20, 2014 3:00:25 PM
s3478h99
August 20, 2014 3:02:35 PM
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@legend001523: The 780 Ti's overly sufficient to for maxing out games. That'll do well in recording on high, and you would definitely save $75 for that and an i7. However, since he says that he doesn't really need recording, he doesn't need to be too OP at games either. @s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.
Would it be worth dropping down to 8gb of ram instead of 16gb of ram and upgrading to an i7?
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xBlaz3kx
August 20, 2014 3:04:00 PM
s3478h99 said:
okcnaline said:
@legend001523: The 780 Ti's overly sufficient to for maxing out games. That'll do well in recording on high, and you would definitely save $75 for that and an i7. However, since he says that he doesn't really need recording, he doesn't need to be too OP at games either. @s3478h99: Since you're not recording, you can technically save some money on a R9 290X, and/or use $10 on a very slightly better PSU. However, it's your choice, as I haven't seen any brand or performance or value issues with the computer. So while what other's say is true, it's DEFINITELY not necessary cause your build should already be performance-sufficient for most games for a quite a long time.
Would it be worth dropping down to 8gb of ram instead of 16gb of ram and upgrading to an i7?
Worth, but pick a ram with low latency and a bit higher speed (1866mhz/2133mhz)
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okcnaline
August 20, 2014 6:32:11 PM
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 2:05:33 AM
And again, how does a 780 ti help record better? That relies on the cpu, r9 290x's have heat issues and temp issues, without good airflow in the case that won't be good, not to mention black screens are quite common with 290x's, if the OP can afdord a 780ti, I honestly don't see why not, it's never been labelled as a 'recording card'
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 2:07:50 AM
xBlaz3kx
August 21, 2014 2:36:32 AM
legend001523
August 21, 2014 2:38:36 AM
xBlaz3kx
August 21, 2014 2:46:00 AM
legend001523
August 21, 2014 2:47:53 AM
xBlaz3kx
August 21, 2014 2:52:30 AM
legend001523 said:
xBlaz3kx said:
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Please show me benchamrks where 16gb of ram is better for gaming?But still the more ram the better
If you have evidence to suggest that i'd love to see it
*Quoting from wikipedia: A random-access memory device allows data items to be read and written in roughly the same amount of time regardless of the order in which data items are accessed.So as a conclusion: It allows faster data acess if you have lower latency and more gigs.
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 2:53:51 AM
xBlaz3kx
August 21, 2014 2:58:31 AM
legend001523 said:
No, wikipedia is not a reliable source not to mention it's not about data transfer, give me benchmarks or videos, one or the otherhttp://www.computermemoryupgrade.net/why-more-ram-is-be...
check it out.
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 2:59:54 AM
legend001523
August 21, 2014 3:01:36 AM
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2042001/8gb-16...
here, I've even found one for you
here, I've even found one for you
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xBlaz3kx
August 21, 2014 3:04:16 AM
legend001523 said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2042001/8gb-16...here, I've even found one for you
Isnt 16 gb more than 8 gb? Anyways, depends on latency and frequency.
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 3:05:28 AM
xBlaz3kx said:
legend001523 said:
http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/answers/id-2042001/8gb-16...here, I've even found one for you
Isnt 16 gb more than 8 gb? Anyways, depends on latency and frequency.
For all we know, the post may have been regarding whether to up[grade from 2gb to 8gb, it doesn't apply to every number, also, even during games, the ram usage is 2-4gb at max, so having 16gb won't help, unless you know magic which can utilise it
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 3:06:09 AM
okcnaline
August 21, 2014 12:52:26 PM
I'm tired of your. IF YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID, THEN 4 GB WOULD BE ENOUGH, WON'T IT?! No. 16 GB is just a size, a cache for files (exe or jpg, doesn't matter). 8 GB may be enough, so is 16. He can save money, but it's FINE.
Does he need 780 Ti? No. That's too much extra FPS, and a R9 290X is enough to max out ALMOST every resource-taking games, so the build's perfect. I don't know why you guys are still arguing over tinny little stuff like this that would bring him 5-20 more FPS but he's made a almost-every-game playable rig.
Does he need 780 Ti? No. That's too much extra FPS, and a R9 290X is enough to max out ALMOST every resource-taking games, so the build's perfect. I don't know why you guys are still arguing over tinny little stuff like this that would bring him 5-20 more FPS but he's made a almost-every-game playable rig.
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 12:56:22 PM
It's actually a debate, not a argument. If the OP can afford a 780 ti why not? Black screens are a common sight on these forums regarding the 290x and because we're trying to help the OP trying to get the best out of their money, by telling the OP misleading information like a 780 ti is more suited for recorsing, 16gb ram gets more fps, these points need to be corrected to let the OP know what is actually true, and what is actually false.
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okcnaline
August 21, 2014 1:08:14 PM
Then ask yourself, WHY YES?!!! I am VERY serious here. A 780 is enough to max out most games, so would a R9 290X. I don't think it really benefits him to have 5 more FPS when he can have >30 FPS on high, DOES IT? He can, but not worth giving ~$60 more. Does 16 GB RAM 1600 Mhz or 8 GB RAM 2133 Mhz matter? When he already (again) has >30 FPS? No. Black Screen on R9 290X? I will suggest MSI, Gigabyte, or ASUS (Cause I trust 'em) boards. I'm tired of this, cause you guys are instead trying to go for more bucks when in my opinion, he can decrease just a little bit of money and he would get the golden build of the year or something.
So again, think about what you're doing. Is it worth upgrading or speeding up anything for just a few more FPS when there's already the good enough amount?
So again, think about what you're doing. Is it worth upgrading or speeding up anything for just a few more FPS when there's already the good enough amount?
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 1:11:31 PM
Black screens are down to the chipset itself, bot just down to the manufacturer, it kinda does, 16gb is not needed at all, being deadly serious here, 8gb is fine for gaming, considering that the op may get a 120hz monitor or go 1440p, a 780 ti would be a good incestment for witcher 3 and future monitor upgrades
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okcnaline
August 21, 2014 1:22:01 PM
By estimate, 8 GB would do fine in gaming. But then, he doesn't need 780 Ti at all. He can tune the settings down a bit, and he's ready for 1440p. It's not that much extra pixels anyway. And he already got a great bang for the buck. Does a tenny tinny bit of buck help justify for a bit more performance? And I'm sure he can steal away with actually a BIT less money.
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legend001523
August 21, 2014 1:25:24 PM
okcnaline
August 21, 2014 1:27:51 PM
s3478h99
August 21, 2014 2:01:01 PM
http://pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/ Heres my updated build but Im having trouble deciding between the motherboard in the build and this one http://pcpartpicker.com/part/asus-motherboard-maximusvi.... Also, will the noctua cpu cooler fit in this case? If it does should I get lower profile ram?
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